The 12th Commandment

Not surprised PCH had tried the Wasatch. I'll give it a shot for sure.

Going to a "Tour de Beer" this weekend at the county fairgrounds . There's a good long list including some I'm not familiar with bold. I'll be looking for the good American pils. Here's a list of the breweries that will be there in case anyone has any recommendations. Shock Top Widmer Hefeweizen Kona Redhook Isotopes Odell Bass Ale Becks Stella Artios Ace Cider Anchor Brewing Anderson Valley Brewing Big Sky Brewing Boulder Brewing Deschutes Brewing Full Sail Brewing Left Hand Brewing Marble Brewing New Belgium Brewing Sierra Nevada Brewing Stone Brewery Shiner Bridgeport Rio Grande Brewing Sierra Blanca Santa Fe Brewing Crispin Bravado Boston Beer Blue Moon Leinenkugel Wasatch Pyramid Mimbres Valley Brewery High Desert Brewing Co.

I get that there are a lot of craft beers around the US that make equally good beer but you can't count on finding it everwhere you go. I'm surprised that my acknowledging that the Germans make good beer would arouse such fervent patriotism;). They do IMO, and an individual taste for beer is nothing if not subjective. That Heineken may have been influenced by the atmosphere some but it was scary good. And yes, the coffee bar may have played a part. Second hand of course

Fat Tire is decent beer no doubt but it isn't as good most of the German beers I had. I'm convinced that those laws they have about beer being fresh and pure puts them at an advantage over American beer that's shipped around the country. They have to produce local since they pull it off the shelves after 30 days or something, just like we do with milk which is also usually produced regionally, not nationally. I found they provide the same experience when your having one after a gondola ride up a mountain in the alps - only the beer is a little better. I've had micro-brews from all over the country and they're just not as consistently good as the beers I drank in various parts of Germany they were all exceptional. Christ they've been brewing the stuff the way they do now for a long time, no shame in giving credit where credit is due. I'll try to find that Prima. There is one store in town that might carry it and I'm guessing it sits on the shelf there for more than 30 days.

Depends where you live and I don't have access to anything I would consider even close - although it's still drinkable . Difference is over there you can count on it no matter where you are. That said, I've had plenty of good beers in micro-breweries that I wouldn't complain about at all but none of them have come close to that Heineken. And that's commercial as they come.

Had Heineken on tap last weekend across the street from the brewery. Almost justified the trip to Amsterdam in itself. I'll never be able to buy the Heineken swill we wind up with here again...over there it was nectar and went down a little too easy. The beer in Germany just kicks any beers ass here so badly that it's a real shame. I've never tasted pilsners so good and every region had their own so it was easy to taste a fairly wide sampling. I'm proud to say the town from which my families name was derived had one of the tastiest out there - Palmbrau is some good ****.

You want to have hope for those poor people but it seems hard to come by there. Against common sense I hope the kid is biding his time and will make a move when he has got a base. Hopefully he's smart enough for that, he'll still be alive when the last of the old guard die off. How could someone who was fairly normal and lived in an open place think that totalitarianism is good for anyone? Wouldn't the elite benefit from more liberal policies and a bigger economy too? Maybe they figure they've gone so far that if the people ever find out why things really have been how they have been, there will be no hope of their benevolence.

I live almost 900 miles away from big D (west on I-20/I-10) and it's still puke land. They hold a wide sway over a big territory. You can basically put a couple hundred mile buffer around their state and it's puke fans. The switch in New Mexico happens in Albuquerque, well north of me, where most there and north are bronco fans. All that country includes real (as real as they can get anyway) puke fans. The roaches, err I mean the bandwagoners, come out during winning seasons but the are a LOT of star stickers and license plates no matter. **** both of those style of fans though. And **** the cowboys.

In a zit hole, on a ****hole hardly working all the time Dwelt some cowboys who are whiners And their donkey Clementine **** the cowboys **** the cowboys **** the cowboys, Clementine They are ****ed and ****ed forever **** the cowboys Clementine

**** the Cowboys, those pansy ass, arrogant, country claiming, worst bandwagon fan having, broken rib QB starting, redneck Skeletor owned, continuously over-rated for decades, ball slurping pundit featured pieces of ****.

Rib Bone Low steady heat Covered to contain and retain A flavor I love Slowmo A cowboy went down to the field and a touchdown he attempted to yield a sorry ass throw to a receiver too slow and it's clear to all he ain't healed

Chinga sus madres, pinche vaqueros.

**** Dallas with the horse they rode in on.

I've always wondered whether posting these links on a site owned by an NFL team was very smart, morals aside, in the sense of not wanting them to find out and shut them down. The no censorship policy works in their favor here.

Autozone on my way out of town then, thanks guys.

I got a rear view mirror emergency. Got my windshield replaced about a month ago and of course they had to reglue the rear view mirror. Woke up this morning to start packing for a road trip to Durango, CO and there was my mirror on the floor. The monsoon has started so it's been humid the last few days and I figure that's probably why it waited until such an opportune time to fall off. How can I reattach it without having to wait the day or so for it set before driving? I don't like the idea of having to go on an 8 hour trip without it so I would be up for a solution that might be more permanent than you would want if you had more time. I don't figure superglue would work but does anybody think some sort of epoxy might do? Thanks!

Trippy Norwegian, err Danish analysis. Wish I knew what the guys were saying, it's probably pretty funny.

Finally have one on tv, I forgot how much better they look in HD. Too bad the team doesn't look better.

http://www.firstrow.net/sports/american-football.html One link so far, hasn't spun up yet

Far as I can tell, it's dependent on the width of your screen and the software automatically forcing a new page. Sometimes I get that in other threads too but you can still see all the posts so it's not a big deal. This year has by far been the best as far availability of the games online. I'm loving it!

He's correct. Those two have every right to make this thread stink of goats. :evilg:

That's the best feed i've seen this year

I was going to grow through the trouble of figuring this out and getting everything installed but they're taking the wind out of my sails.

I paid to see it and felt I got my money's worth for sure. Lot's of action and two fairly evenly matched fighters. In the end I felt Taylor just ran out of gas again. He tried to fight a little more cautiously in the early rounds and wound up taking some shots for it. That one body blow in the second half (don't remember which round) of the fight did him in.

I've just got one thing to say to puke fans. If you'd stop kissing your sister long enough to think about it for one ****ing minute, you 6 toed pig ****ers, you'd realize you've got a team of thirty something year old juvenile ****ing delinquents. That ****ing raggedy ass bunch of **** wads couldn't be pulled together by the most hard ass coach in the league. What the **** makes you think for one ****ing second that ole Son of a Bum, can pull their ****ing heads out their bums long enough to win a football game. They're ****ing destined to implode like the colon of an asshat crygirl fan that got a bad batch chili at the local greasy spoon. The **** 's. I gotta say, that was really fun! I likes this thread.