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Thanks, I appreciate the respectful exchange!

Very well-said, @tshile

Very good...it's a nice post, @Jumbo and I agree that you are more in tune to the daily leanings. That said, I agree with you overall about there being common things that span all humans. I think defending slavery or Hitler or child grooming would be pretty easy to all agree on. I guess where I'm just off my rocker is that I don't think it's cut and dry that a group of people wanting to maintain some memory of people who represented their history/states/etc. rises to that level. Yes, I understand the Civil War and the key disagreement within it. But, the desire to not want to whitewash history is certainly more nuanced than "I like some Civil War names, therefore I loved the idea of slavery."

Appreciate the feedback. It's funny to me that what I provide is considered embarrassing, but it is what it is. I'd recommend you truly evaluate the statement of yours that I underlined, bolded, and italicized above. There is absolutely an echo chamber atmosphere, especially if anyone dares to introduce an opinion that isn't considered perfectly PC, mainstream, or status quo. It's perfectly fine, of course...you guys are free to create the place you want. But, don't try to convince yourself that it doesn't exist.

Exactly the point I was trying to make. Flawless reading comprehension.

Yeah, I got blown up in the other thread where this came up. Just because I can see both sides and don't think a community wanting to hold onto traditions automatically equals pure evil...I'm basically an enabler or apologist. My stance on all this is that people in general are flawed. All of them. If we are going to name anything after anyone ever, we should just acknowledge that and be OK with their flaws. The ones who lived 200 years ago were all probably racist, sexist, and any other "ist" you can find. But, many of them did some good things too. If people want to find community and pride in that, let them. But, it's a very slippery slope to strip every town of a name, because to say that Stonewall Jackson's racism outweighs his service in the Mexican-American War but Thomas Jefferson racism doesn't outweigh his patriotism is a very arbitrary line to draw.

It's always fun to be reminded that every topic is completely black and white in here. It really is exhausting sometimes. Sorry to rock the boat.

OK. I just don't think everything is always that cut and dry. I don't believe that you can always draw a direct line from "wanting to keep names of schools and streets" to "support every ideal held by the individual" Otherwise, we better just rename every city and take down every statue...

If a majority of people disagree with a decision and overrule it, then is it clear that it was the right thing to do? It's possible that, at least in that community, rushing to rename every school and remove every statue was *not* the right thing to do or there wouldn't be so much backlash.

I don't agree. People like traditions and are attached to things. I would guess that not every person who preferred the name Stonewall Jackson did so because they are racists or hopes the South rises again. They might just have fond memories of the school they attended, not want history erased, or appreciate some of their heritage being preserved. To jump to the conclusion that this requires a reckoning is a bit extreme. It’s a name of an American…relax.

I don't know...it might be a little much to spend taxpayer money to rebrand again. It's just a school name. But I think it just proves that we may have gone a little overboard a couple years ago finding anything with any name relating to a Confederate or someone who may have owned a slave and just wiping those names out of existence.

You would know better than I do...but from a few miles away, it just feels like the team is a year or two ahead of schedule. We shall see!

Yep. My son follows the Nats as his second team and I told him last year that I thought they were ahead of schedule. It would be VERY exciting if they could make some wild card noise into the late-summer this year. I think they are a 2025-and-beyond playoff contender.

Do you think the people who had their college life disrupted during Vietnam protests during the 60s and 70s want to hear these millennials **** and moan???? *end sarcasm*

When I started dating my wife (we are both on our second marriage), I wanted to pay for everything. She made/makes pretty good money, but it's more that I feel like the guy should take the girl out. There were times when she would treat (like if she took me out for my birthday) or she would have me over and make dinner and we'd have the wine or alcohol she had at her house. But, if we went out, I insisted on picking up the check or buying the tickets or whatever. Now that we are married we don't have any separation of finances. It all goes into joint accounts and flows out (sometimes just as fast, it seems).

The throwbacks are sweet (obviously) and the white jersey paired with orange pants are actually pretty cool. Everything else I could do without.

Also, the part the screams "fiction" to me is the dramatic smoking scene under a tree. That feels like a scene pulled from Good Will Hunting more than something that would happen in real life. In actuality, if this happened, they would just go and talk in someone's office.

Wow, I had no idea. Yeah, that definitely seems ridiculous. I don't blame you for feeling the way that you do!

G&D don't bother me as much as they bother others. It's not that I think they are brilliant or anything, they aren't. But, I have never gotten the impression that they believe they are or are trying to be. They facilitate - interview people, give their "sport fan" opinions on the local teams, etc. Maybe that's why it's never bothered me...they seem to have the same level of knowledge that I do... Sheehan has been my favorite in the area for a long time. He has generally held the same opinions as me, but he's much more informed and articulate than I am.

I don't tune in much, but I don't think the shows are all that bad. I've lived here for 40+ years and listened to sports radio for most of that time...I think Sheehan, Grant & Danny, Finley, etc. are all perfectly capable local sports guys.

That's fair and my wife and I aren't much different than that. A couple comments on this outlook though: 1) I don't think this is representative of the entire country, so we too might risk being tone deaf, and 2) Doing all of these things today costs far more than it did just a few years ago and results in less money leftover. I agree with you that too many people expect that they are entitled to too much even if they cannot afford it. That said, to me it's simply the comparison of what they could afford a few years ago vs. now. The same items (whether they were entitled to them or not) cost far too much compared to 3-5 years ago.

This is a good post. It comes off as tone deaf and insulting to tell people who are experiencing a problem that your metrics tell you they are wrong. Take another aspect of life other than personal finance. If you went to your doctor and said you were vomiting 3x per day...it would frustrate the **** out of you if they ran a couple tests and sent you home feeling nuts telling you that their tests told you that you shouldn't be feeling sick.

I love that the only context in that Tweet was the distance between Hawaii and The Vatican. hahahahhahahahhahaha what nuts.

Aren't these all steps that require trust of humans NOT to break rules or protocol? If a group truly wanted to know how you voted, they could trace it back by not discarding the envelope or not separating the section with the serial number... The same would be true online. Those elections and votes COULD be secure. Sure, if a group of bad actors wanted to go to great lengths to break rules and protocols to attach votes to people, I'm sure they could.