buenosdiaz Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 its that trading him for cutler is idiotic and against everything the franchise has stood for... I sometimes wonder how many of you have actually played team sports with the way you throw away campbell's attitude for a J. Cutler that's attitude is a shadow of that of Jason Campbell (and nothing has shown that his football skill set would be that much of an improvement) Cutler has natural talent nobody is denying that...but you dont make champions out of natural talent...you make it with hardwork, dedication to excellence, and a commitment to your team It's understanding that you are a part of the team and not thinking that a team needs you to succeed. With all the trashing that many of us make on other teams and how their FO operates to win at any cost we sure are throwing Jason Campbell under the bus for a kid thats looked like a complete selfish ass the last couple of weeks... Winning is important but you dont win with players like that...Cutler's attitude will continue to get in the way of his skill set and only he is going to change that I'm not entirely convinced Campbell is the answer either but i know he's not a loser and he has what it takes to be a winner If we were going to trade Campbell away shouldnt it be for somebody that fits the character of our team and doesnt have the me-first attitude that many of us hate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnb123 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 This couldn't have gone in one of the 15 other J.C. threads on the first page? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD5 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 NNT for 500 Alex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Everything this franchise has stood for? Is that maybe a tad overdramatic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins PR Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 its that trading him for cutler is idiotic and against everything the franchise has stood for... What does this franchise stand for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buenosdiaz Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 why cuz you dont agree? lol its the truth and no its not gonna get lost in the other threads because i think its a salient point about what it takes to build a winning team not wanting to trade campbell has more to do with the idea of cutler as our qb than campbell's football skills imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buenosdiaz Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 What does this franchise stand for? character bro...its why we have such a kick ass team and most of our players are so well liked we've dont a good job at staying away from the TO's etc of the world that make a lot of noise on espn and all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinz4Life12 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 great thread BD. i'm sure i'm not the only one who will appreciate you making this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKM311 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Agree 100%! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temple Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 What does this franchise stand for? Selling season tickets, jerseys, and $8 beers? :whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buenosdiaz Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 you guys can flame all you want but as a person thats played sports his entire life and even coached a team and done damn well at that Cutler is not the type of person you win with i wonder how many of you have done well enough in sports to understand that or you just want cutler cuz of what you've seen on highlight reels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinz4Life12 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 you guys can flame all you want but as a person thats played sports his entire life and even coached a team and done damn well at that Cutler is not the type of person you win with i wonder how many of you have done well enough in sports to understand that or you just want cutler cuz of what you've seen on highlight reels couldn't agree with you more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketCitySkins Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Gibbs understood what the franchise stands for. Quote from Washington Post article at the time Jason was drafted. "Gibbs said he prizes character, smarts and toughness above arm strength and accuracy when analyzing quarterbacks, and believes that while raw, Campbell has all of those traits." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirtyfive2seven Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 selling season tickets, jerseys, and $8 beers? :whoknows: +1,000,000,000,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buenosdiaz Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 I think a lot of people the want to trade campbell see people that want to keep campbell as homer's its bigger than that its the prospect of jay cutler being the qb that is sooo much worse than campbell being the qb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Selling season tickets, jerseys, and $8 beers? :whoknows: nah, Snyder goes by the theory that no publicity is bad publicity. I bet he's laughing at Jerry Jones right now. Jones isn't getting publicity because he got rid of T.O. Now Snyder's getting all the publicity cause he might be interested in Campbell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 you guys can flame all you want but as a person thats played sports his entire life and even coached a team and done damn well at that Cutler is not the type of person you win with i wonder how many of you have done well enough in sports to understand that or you just want cutler cuz of what you've seen on highlight reels You don't KNOW Cutler. This is what's funny. You don't really KNOW Campbell either. hey, you ever hear about the behavior of Michael Jordan? He punched Steve Kerr in the mouth. Kevin Garnett broke a dude's nose in practice. Scottie Pippen refused to go into an end of game situation. he's one of the top 2 greatest perimeter defenders of all time and was the only reason the Blazers really competed against the lakers in those years he was with that team. You don't really know sports because you'd know about guys that had flaws (or were driven by competitive desire.) Ever hear of Joey Theismann? You think he is the same level of character of campbell? barry wilburn? Dexter Manley(nice guy but a cokehead)? Cutler is probably a better overall person than several people lacing up cleats for the Skins NOW, but who knows? In the end, so long as he's not a murderer or rapist--who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buenosdiaz Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 You don't KNOW Cutler. This is what's funny.You don't really KNOW Campbell either. hey, you ever hear about the behavior of Michael Jordan? He punched Steve Kerr in the mouth. Kevin Garnett broke a dude's nose in practice. Scottie Pippen refused to go into an end of game situation. he's one of the top 2 greatest perimeter defenders of all time and was the only reason the Blazers really competed against the lakers in those years he was with that team. You don't really know sports because you'd know about guys that had flaws (or were driven by competitive desire.) Ever hear of Joey Theismann? You think he is the same level of character of campbell? barry wilburn? Dexter Manley(nice guy but a cokehead)? Cutler is probably a better overall person than several people lacing up cleats for the Skins NOW, but who knows? In the end, so long as he's not a murderer or rapist--who cares? i know enough of how they present theirselves to the public that jason campbell is much more mature than jay cutler and has many more leadership qualities that are important to a qb we're all adults and we all get confrontational especially in competitive sports but much can be said about the way a person presents his/her self to the media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gortiz Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 This couldn't have gone in one of the 15 other J.C. threads on the first page? no ...its a point that is not made enough or glossed over. Cuter is better then JC, but he is not worth trading for and giving up a draft pick for in addition to getting rid of JC. Cuter's character or lack thereof is also not brought up enough. All the people that want cutler are like my little idiot newphew that wanted a muscle car. He was obessesd with this but he didn't take into account the gas mileage, maintenance costs, and problme with finding parts that came wtih the car, that by no stretch of the imagination was sweet as hell. When the crap hit the fan, boy did it hit the fan. A year later he's driving a solid as hell Honda and he couldn't be happier. don't know where I was going with that... point is cutler just aint worth what we are willing to give up and give. simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana_89 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 This couldn't have gone in one of the 15 other J.C. threads on the first page? :applause: + 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSkins561 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 This couldn't have gone in one of the 15 other J.C. threads on the first page? No way man, every new idea needs a new thread, the more threads the merrier. War Thread Starters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buenosdiaz Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 so lets just come in here and make an applause or comment on how this should have gone somewhere or...we could talk about the subject matter that is team building and pros'/con's of the two qb's from a POV that doesnt seem to get much attention or if not we could ***** and moan about it and in turn later on ***** and moan about the degeneration of stadium discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mac Patty Wack Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 its why we have such a kick ass team that just went 8-8. We don't have enough talent on this team to win a Super Bowl. Campbell has some talent, but not enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buenosdiaz Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 that just went 8-8. We don't have enough talent on this team to win a Super Bowl. Campbell has some talent, but not enough. did you seriously think we'd be better than 8-8 at the beginning of the season? there are very few teams that are perrenial superbowl contendors and it didnt happen overnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 bd, you got your answer when "In the end, so long as he's not a murderer or rapist--who cares?" became part of the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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