afparent Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 THE TRADE, ONE YEAR LATER. From Brian Kirkmeyer, of Freehold, N.J.: "I'd like to hear your take on the Portis/Champ trade now that the season is over for both teams. I personally think the Redskins got the greater impact player in Portis. Besides, you can scheme to cover up a CB ... and Denver's season ended up just like last year's.'' Remember: The trade was Clinton Portis for Champ Bailey and Tatum Bell, because the Broncos used the second-round pick acquired from Washington in the Portis trade to take Bell. I still think it's a better deal for Denver, even with Bailey's effectiveness quasi-neutered by the clarification of the five-yard bump zone at the line of scrimmage. He's still a good to very good player at a position where the Broncos were destitute. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/peter_king/01/11/mmqb.te/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERIC THE REDskinsfan Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Funny how he mentions it was Tatum Bell and Bailey for Portis and not Portis and Springs! I still take our side any day!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNut73 Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Pssst...Hey Pete...the 5 yd bump zone had no effect on Champ. He was getting beat all over the place I love how champ gets a disclaimer...but we don't mention the fact that Portis gained 1300 yds on an offense that had no other weapons/did nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Springs wasn't included in the actual trade. The contracts eventually signed would have precluded getting the other. I agree with King in that I didn't like the second thrown in and I felt the player for player swap would have been more fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 I still think we got hosed by having to give up a 2nd round pick in that swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins11 Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 "5 yard bump" enforcement must have singlehandedly make every receiver look like Amani "It's not a ..." Toomer to good ol Roland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Could'a, Would'a, Should'a Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 i think its a bad trade for both teams, teams have figured out though great in coverage Bailey is poor when thrown at, and Portis looks a system runningback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 It's interesting how the 5 yd bump rule didn't seem to hinder our CBs much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carter23 Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Originally posted by 1-2-3 times a loser i think its a bad trade for both teams, teams have figured out though great in coverage Bailey is poor when thrown at, and Portis looks a system runningback :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Originally posted by 1-2-3 times a loser and Portis looks a system runningback If by system you mean having a "GOOD" O-line then yes, I agree...Portis is a system back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamebreaker Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Originally posted by Mackydootz Funny how he mentions it was Tatum Bell and Bailey for Portis and not Portis and Springs! I still take our side any day!! Why is that funny? Springs had nothing to do with that trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The X-Factor Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Originally posted by Oldskool I still think we got hosed by having to give up a 2nd round pick in that swap. Yeah if anything WE should have gotten that 2nd rounder. Oh well, what's done is done. I still think its too early to assess this trade yet. After next year we will have a better idea of who got the better deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skns4life Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Originally posted by 1-2-3 times a loser i think its a bad trade for both teams, teams have figured out though great in coverage Bailey is poor when thrown at, and Portis looks a system runningback yes...because 1300 yards is a bad season...especially on an offense like ours...definately a system back...geesh....you must be another cowboy trolling over here cause your teams messaged boards suck...:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skns4life Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 happy B-day BRAVESONWARPATH!....its mine also but how come i dont get a little cake?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drex Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Involving Springs in this trade is the equivalent of mentioning the performance of Reuben Droughns this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Originally posted by skns4life happy B-day BRAVESONWARPATH!....its mine also but how come i dont get a little cake?? Sorry..I'll share some with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skns4life Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 you people who are sayin that we should have gotten the 2nd round pick are kinda admitting that Champ is better than portis...if you think that Portis made a bigger impact...then you should say that the trade was even...even though i would have preferred giving them champ and a later round draft pick instead of a 2nd....that was too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skns4life Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Originally posted by BRAVEONAWARPATH Sorry..I'll share some with you. haha...alright thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afparent Posted January 12, 2005 Author Share Posted January 12, 2005 All I know is Denver is in turmoil right now with no upside. The skins on the other side are positive with much upside! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoCommiesGo Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Eh, he's kinda right I'd take Portis over Bailey any day. But we really shouldn't have had to give up the second. Other than the second we got the good end of the stick on that one. 1300 yard rusher in a horrible offense? Hell yes I'll take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skns4life Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 we shouldnt have gave them a 2nd but i think portis is a better football player(meaning bigger impact) so therefore we owed them something else...2nd rounder is too much though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECU-ALUM Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 I say we got the better end of the deal...I mean how many times did we see Champ smiling and slapping his hands together after he got burned this year? Quarterbacks were not afraid to go after him this year... And somehow I think Marvin Harrison's block on him will be played on many high-light films for many years to come. Granted Portis had a few fumbles here and there but he was a constant threat and 1,300 yards is still 1,300 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Om Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Originally posted by skns4life happy B-day BRAVESONWARPATH!....its mine also but how come i dont get a little cake?? Put your birthday in your profile, brother, and you may have cake, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Originally posted by skns4life happy B-day BRAVESONWARPATH!....its mine also but how come i dont get a little cake?? Go to USERCP & edit your birthday into your profile. :wish: The cake icon lasts for the week on your b-day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f_dallas Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Funny how he mentions it was Tatum Bell and Bailey for Portis and not Portis and Springs! As already mentioned, that's just silly. For the record, I think Bell is going to be a big time back. He had a lot of injuries this season (and maybe that will haunt him his entire career), but if he stays healthy next season, I would expect him to go for 1,500 yards without question. The games he played, he looked really good- can't compare to portis, but he looked much better than Droughns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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