afparent Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Marino, Young among 15 finalists for Hall of Fame Jan. 11, 2005 SportsLine.com wire reports CANTON, Ohio -- Quarterbacks Dan Marino and Steve Young and wide receiver Michael Irvin were among 15 finalists for the Pro Football Hall of Fame announced Tuesday. Marino, who holds many of the NFL's career passing records, and Young, who led San Francisco to the 1994 NFL title, were among four finalists who made the list in their first year of eligibility. The others were Irvin, a member of the Dallas teams that won three Super Bowls between 1992 and 1995, and the late Derrick Thomas, who played for Kansas City and died in 2000 of injuries suffered in an auto accident. Two of the finalists had already been determined -- senior nominees Fritz Pollard and Benny Friedman. Pollard, who played in the 1920s, also was the first black to coach an NFL team. Friedman played for several teams between 1927 and 1934. The other nominees were linebacker Harry Carson, who played for the New York Giants in the 1970s and 1980s and was a member of the 1986 NFL champions; defensive end Richard Dent, the MVP for the Chicago Bears in the Super Bowl following the 1985 season; defensive end L.C. Greenwood, a member of Pittsburgh's "Steel Curtain" teams of the 1970s; guard Russ Grimm, a member of Washington's famed "Hogs," defensive end Claude Humphrey, who played for Washington and Philadelphia between 1968-81; guard Bob Kuechenberg, who played on Miami's 1972 undefeated champions, wide receiver Art Monk, a member of three Super Bowl winners with Washington; Roger Wehrli, a cornerback for the St. Louis Cardinals from 1969-82; and the late George Young, who built two Super Bowl winners as general manager of the Giants. http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/8089116 AP NEWS The Associated Press News Service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan080 Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 I have a feeling hes going to get shafted again..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afparent Posted January 11, 2005 Author Share Posted January 11, 2005 No Jacoby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Marino and Young are locks.......I have a better feeling for Grimm than for Monk. Maybe because Russ is still in the league....with a winner right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfbovey Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Hopefully Gibbs coming back will help his former players get in somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan51 Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Does anyone know how Michael Irvin's numbers match up with Monk's? I'm just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afparent Posted January 11, 2005 Author Share Posted January 11, 2005 IRVIN Catches Yards Avg TD 750 11904 15.9 65 5X Pro Bowler ART 940 12721 13.5 68 3X Pro Bowler Art played 16 years, Irvin 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Originally posted by skinsfan51 Does anyone know how Michael Irvin's numbers match up with Monk's? I'm just curious. Monk (224 games): reg season: 940 12721 13.5 68 playoffs (15 games): 69 1062 15.3 7 Irvin: (159 games): reg season: 750 11904 15.9 65 Playoffs (16 games): 87 1314 15.1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poidog22 Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Monk's gonna get screwed again. I hope that at least Grimm makes the cut. :fingersx: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ax Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Some Irvin numbers. July 15, 1996: Irvin pleads no contest to second-degree felony cocaine possession in exchange for four years' deferred probation, $10,000 fine and dismissal of misdemeanor marijuana possession charges against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southtown Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 I don't know who Benny Friedman was...but since he is a candidate for the Hall of Fame you would think they could have come up with something more significant than: Friedman played for several teams between 1927 and 1934. Wow! Really? SEVERAL teams? Amazing! :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXREDSKINS44 Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Originally posted by Ax Some Irvin numbers. July 15, 1996: Irvin pleads no contest to second-degree felony cocaine possession in exchange for four years' deferred probation, $10,000 fine and dismissal of misdemeanor marijuana possession charges against him. Thanks for the info AX :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Originally posted by Ax Some Irvin numbers. July 15, 1996: Irvin pleads no contest to second-degree felony cocaine possession in exchange for four years' deferred probation, $10,000 fine and dismissal of misdemeanor marijuana possession charges against him. With numbers like that, the Coke Machine's a shoe-in. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Irvin is a lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riggins44 Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 If Irvin makes it on first ballot or ahead of Monk, then the HOF is nothing more than a popularity contest. Grimm should make it this year. This should open the door for other Hogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon_mikal Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Originally posted by riggins44 If Irvin makes it on first ballot or ahead of Monk, then the HOF is nothing more than a popularity contest. Why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skns4life Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Originally posted by dragon_mikal Why is that? COWBOY FAN :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. S Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Monk may have been just a 'posession' receiver, but he set many records in his career, and helped us win 3 super bowls and go to 4 I believe. Based on stats, Irvin does have an edge being in the league less and whatnot, but I thought the HoF is not about stats, but quality? Based on his stats, which are still impressive, and the things he did, he should be in. Irvin just talked more, and was part of the "America's Team" Cowboys in the early 90's, so more people have him fresh on their mind still, hence a popularity contest. Irvin should make it I guess, but not before Monk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afparent Posted January 11, 2005 Author Share Posted January 11, 2005 Originally posted by Mr. S Monk may have been just a 'posession' receiver, but he set many records in his career, and helped us win 3 super bowls and go to 4 I believe. Based on stats, Irvin does have an edge being in the league less and whatnot, but I thought the HoF is not about stats, but quality? Based on his stats, which are still impressive, and the things he did, he should be in. Irvin just talked more, and was part of the "America's Team" Cowboys in the early 90's, so more people have him fresh on their mind still, hence a popularity contest. Irvin should make it I guess, but not before Monk. One more important factor. Irvin had a HOF QB throwing to him. Monk had to adjust to at least 5 different QBs, none of them HOF material, during his tenure with the Skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BleedinBurgundyandGold Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 The fact that Irving is a "lock" disgusts me. I know that the NFL, unlike any other professional-team HOF only takes into account what a player did on the field but thats ridiculous. To anyone with some power in media, the creators of this site, and anyone with more knowledge on the subject, WHAT CAN WE DO TO GET ART MONK IN THE HALL!?!?!? It seems to me that getting even half of the people on this site together to make some noise could get recognized by the committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BleedinBurgundyandGold Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 I am going to start a thread on the issue, anyone with ideas welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtyler42 Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Irvin will get in Monk wont...Sadly the HOF is a popularity contest and a great career will not be recognized for what it is... Monk isnt outspoken, he hasnt gotten into any trouble, he is a model citizen and retired as the all-time receptions leader...What more did he need to do to be a HOF.... If he doesnt get in or Grimm get in I say :finger: HOF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kappaluvacee Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Irvin's a lock at the local coke-house. Forget the yellow blazer, he'd rather done the nose candy than the HOF jacket. Will Irvin's bust come complete with white dust under the nose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartskins Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Originally posted by kappaluvacee Will Irvin's bust come complete with white dust under the nose? KLA--hilarious. :laugh: In any case, I seriously doubt that we will get BOTH Monk and Grimm in this year. I'd say at best we'll get Grimm. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 If Irvin gets in first, I might go hysterical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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