ummagumma Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Originally posted by Funkyalligator If Brunell refuses to report....does he count against the salary cap? When McCardell didn't report down here in Tampa, the local papers said that he DID NOT count against the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Originally posted by ummagumma But trading him does the same thing. The signing bonus accelerates. We CAN'T trade the bum unless he redoes his contract and, I assume, repays part of the signing bonus. Can he be traded to NFL Europe? I know, that's why I put in the "I know it won't work" line. With his SB, the only way he gets traded (and we take the hit) is if we get something in return (picks, Clinton Portis, something like that. (Although, if he's going to get all pouty, then let's also face it: Would you rather eat his cap hit this year, or eat one years worth and his salary this year, and the rest next year? And another possibility comes up June 1st.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big#44 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Originally posted by fdarugar I would feel more secure with Hasselbeck as the #2, who agrees? i would feel comfortable if he was are starter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Originally posted by big#44 i would feel comfortable if he was are starter Yep I would too. I'd love to see him throw up some more of those 0.00 quarterback rating stinkaroo games.....:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skns4life Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Originally posted by Akhhorus Then Brunell better learn how to Long Snap. We cant deal him, we cant cut him. He better get used to it. HAHAHAHA:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: no joke...long snap or holder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenster95 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Cutting Brunell would be difficult because of the salary cap ramifications, so Brunell's best option for leaving would be to request a trade if he wanted to leave. Dumb cap statement of the day. If we trade Brunell, we take the same cap hit as if we cut him before June 1. If we cut after June 1, we at least get to split the cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 shut the hell up Mark and hold that clipboard. Youre costing us a draft pick, costing us salary cap space and were a major contributing factor in us having a losing season. You have NO right to talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sealskin Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 What makes brunell think he could be a starter after his performance this season? :puke: He was absolutely horrid most of the time. I think he had one decent game against dallas if i am remembering correctly. I hope he restructures for next season. I wonder if he was playing through an injury that was never reported? I wonder if he has any problem with skin fans when he goes out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hands11 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Originally posted by fdarugar I would feel more secure with Hasselbeck as the #2, who agrees? Me. I would feel more succure if we got to see him play at least once this year. I think the kid has some game in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hands11 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Originally posted by skinsfan93 I realize why you guys are being so hard on Brunell, but c'mon...do you want the guy to say...look I stink and I deserve to be a 2nd stringer? If he remains on the team, don't you want a guy to go out there and try and compete? Don't you want the guy to work hard as if he is the starter? I rather have that then some guy who knows he will be the backup and won't ever step on the field unless there is an injury. Look at a guy like Koy Detmer. He only plays the last two games because Donovan sat and he stunk the joint. He knows there's no way he steps on the field. It's gotta be something he thinks about when he's at practice. :2cents: Yeah, but that is the only way he will start. He should say. I still believe in myself. I still know I can start. I know I didn't do well this season. The whole offense had problems. Im going to keep preparing and be ready to go when they call on me. Patrick is doing great. Hes talented. I think he is going to do great. I totally support him. Well see how things work out. You never know when your going to be called on to help the team. Ill be read to step in play at a higher level. Ill be ready to perform like I had my whole carrer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ummagumma Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Originally posted by Larry I know, that's why I put in the "I know it won't work" line. With his SB, the only way he gets traded (and we take the hit) is if we get something in return (picks, Clinton Portis, something like that. (Although, if he's going to get all pouty, then let's also face it: Would you rather eat his cap hit this year, or eat one years worth and his salary this year, and the rest next year? And another possibility comes up June 1st.) A 1000 pardons...I think i meant to Quote someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNEET Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Hey Mark, don't let the door hit your ass on the way out! Peace! See ya when I see ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 he's being honest. a former Pro Bowler moved to the bench is hard on anyone like that. the last one to know your washed up is..... you. lighten up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpskins Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 If he thinks it's going to be hard being a backup, wait till he tries to start. My favorite quote: "Starting this season, but not being able to finish, that was the frustrating part, particularly when we were about to turn the corner and get some things going,'' Brunell said. ``Guys were playing better, and to not be a part of that was pretty hard.'' Cause and effect, MB. Cause and effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Originally posted by fdarugar I would feel more secure with Hasselbeck as the #2, who agrees? I'd feel more secure with Steven Hawking playing backup QB instead of Brunell. Mark, pack your :pooh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Maybe he could start for the Cards and will agree to restructure. Perhaps we can get a 6th or 6th out of it or maybe a player..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBkilla56 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 I hate you Brunell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Sassy Molassy Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Originally posted by LaVarArringtons**** I hate you Brunell. Thank you for getting rid of that sig pic. I was getting hungry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornSkinsFan Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Originally posted by canesluver I think our back-up quarterback situation stinks. If Ramsey should go down, I don't have confidence in either one. If Brunnell somehow leaves the Skins, we need to start looking, because I don't think Hasselbeck is the answer. How about Tupa?? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akhhorus Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Originally posted by Funkyalligator If Brunell refuses to report....does he count against the salary cap? no, he would be put on the refuse to report list and after a certain amount of time(6-8 weeks into the season) the skins would be able to recoup all the money from his contract for the season and negate the pro-rated portion of the bonus for that season. If he stays out through the whole season, the skins can void his contract and not be responsible for the bonus against the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Originally posted by dfbovey Only way he gets taken off our hands is if we cut him. And that will be a big cap hit. Maybe he will agree to a pay cut. Wishful thinking. A pay cut doesn't do us much good. Brunell is making $1.5 million in 2005, which is really not out of line with most veteran backup QB's. So taking a paycut wouldn't save that much. The thing the Skins don't want to do is get him pissed off next year and then force him into retirement. The cap hit would be humungus. If he retires in 2006 if won't be near as bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan51 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 The bottom line was that the QB spot what his to lose, and he lost it. I like him as a person, but Patrick has earned the right to be the '05 starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzfan4life Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Originally posted by LA56Dawg he is already a cancer on my franchise in Madden '05... i traded him to the Cardinals for a 2nd round pick - although i took a cap penalty of ~$5.7mil... btw i resigned Pierce and Smoot, i don't remember the figures I hear that...although i recieved a #1 pick for him. Ended up with Antrell Rolle and Leinert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzfan4life Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 I find it pretty humorus that he thinks he can still play or at least play at a high level. Its not like he played well and we lost, he wasnt hitting wide open guys 10 yards down field. Thats terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselfan44 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Yeah we're scared you'll leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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