js79 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Did you guys see it.. Smoot was going off saying the refrees decide most of the games the redskins play.. he said nothing can be done about false starts but the pass interference was a horrible call and the ref's basically overlook everything the other team does and call everything the redskins do.. i agree with him, although, to complain about a ref is "loser talk" according to czaban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polskadan Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I LOVE SMOOT!!! Seriously, the guy is all heart, you could tell it in the interview, he has been holding this back for a long time... i believe saying.. "If you've been to a skins game once in the past 4 years, then you know what i'm talking about. They just don't know how to ref, I don't know if when they see burgundy and gold that they stop refing or what, but....." It was awesome and all the truth...now comcast is going off on refs too! I love this...finally the truth comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mookie0720 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Well yea it's looser talk....unless it happens every week.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pr11fan Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I saw it, basically said it's been going on for the 4 years he's been here, said in the 1st half they let em play ball and we hung in there, second half said the refs couldn't stay out of it and took the game away from the players, kept reinforcing how long this has been going on. I don't think I've ever seen smoot that angry. Hyper yes, angry no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NACSkins Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 SMOOOOOOOOT !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walking Deadman Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Funny, Czaban whines about practically everything else..... Anyway Smoot should be upset- even if the PI call was legit (I would say not, but that's me) the play should never had happened. Pinkston was outta bounds. 4th down. What was a tight (but slipping away) game at 14-6 totally ended after those 2 calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polskadan Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 also stated "I can swear evertime we get a first down, the refs have to measure it. Meanwhile when philly's is controversial they give it to them every time, And I know our D-line pushed them back..." I remember one particular instance in the game where a philly player was on the ground with the ball...then the ref moved it forward about 2 yards !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Glad someone had the balls to say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpgirth Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I never believed this is true....until this year. After the debacle with Dallas, GB, and now Philly. Dan Reeves said on SIRIUS he doesn't believe the league is slanted but can understand why some teams fans believe this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I agree with him. Sure, we might have still lost these games, but when you see the calls, when you see how obvious it is--it's terrible. Thrash was still for that snap and you dont make that call because he didn't go out on a route. Pinkston was OUT OF BOUNDS. The Cowboys got two HUGE calls/non-call in there favor, in addition to multiple holding penalties that never get called on the opponent and non-stop ticky tack fouls on the Skins. It's disgusting, really and is starting to resemble a Kings/Lakers game from 2 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtyler42 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 As much as I hate to make excuses for losing..... Smoot is right I just don't understand how the Refs see everything we do and seem to miss most of the things our opponents do... Did you hear Bmitch on the Comcast post-game show he stated that when he was with the Giants they researched it and found that the 4 teams that didnt vote for the Refs to get a pay raise were the most penalized teams in the league, and of course the Skins were one of those teams. It's a C.....O.......N.......spiracy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurman Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 While some calls were questionable, Smoot should have kept his freaking hand off Mitchell's back. Don't give the refs a reason to flag you. Even if it didn't affect the play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trez Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Did the skins get penalized on EVERY kick return?? Sure seemed like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizkiteer Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 If our team (this year talking about the offensive side) did what they were suppose to do, then a call or two by the ref's wouldn't make a difference. Basically put yourself in a situation where they can't take it out of your hands. BTW - GB Smooooooot, he's really stepped it up w/ Champ gone. Hell, he's trying to become Mr. Redskin...at least for now until Snyder rewards him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Originally posted by Lurman While some calls were questionable, Smoot should have kept his freaking hand off Mitchell's back. Don't give the refs a reason to flag you. Even if it didn't affect the play. ALL CB do that when they look back for the ball. as long as you do not alter the WR route is it a penalty. and he wasn't touching him when Mitchell fell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shippy1973 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Originally posted by jtyler42 As much as I hate to make excuses for losing..... Smoot is right I just don't understand how the Refs see everything we do and seem to miss most of the things our opponents do... Did you hear Bmitch on the Comcast post-game show he stated that when he was with the Giants they researched it and found that the 4 teams that didnt vote for the Refs to get a pay raise were the most penalized teams in the league, and of course the Skins were one of those teams. It's a C.....O.......N.......spiracy! Boy oh boy....what a joke. To me, this really holds water. God I hope this is not even remotely true... :puke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelms Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 In the NFL, there's holding on virtually every kick/punt return and on at least half of passing plays. Strange how it seems it's called on us more than our opponents. Especially during crucial times in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I don't think that a player on the business end of a 28-6 loss should be talking about officiating . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaveli Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Originally posted by jtyler42 As much as I hate to make excuses for losing..... Smoot is right I just don't understand how the Refs see everything we do and seem to miss most of the things our opponents do... Did you hear Bmitch on the Comcast post-game show he stated that when he was with the Giants they researched it and found that the 4 teams that didnt vote for the Refs to get a pay raise were the most penalized teams in the league, and of course the Skins were one of those teams. It's a C.....O.......N.......spiracy! O_O Nooooo!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurman Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Originally posted by bubba9497 ALL CB do that when they look back for the ball. as long as you do not alter the WR route is it a penalty. and he wasn't touching him when Mitchell fell. He had his hand on his back before their legs got entangled. He didn't need to do that. He gave the refs a chance to penalize him in realtime. Its his fault. He shouldn't say one more damn word about that play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Originally posted by jtyler42 As much as I hate to make excuses for losing..... Smoot is right I just don't understand how the Refs see everything we do and seem to miss most of the things our opponents do... Did you hear Bmitch on the Comcast post-game show he stated that when he was with the Giants they researched it and found that the 4 teams that didnt vote for the Refs to get a pay raise were the most penalized teams in the league, and of course the Skins were one of those teams. It's a C.....O.......N.......spiracy! If that's true something just has to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeSkin Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 The bad calls this season have been stunning. Not trying to make excuses for our poor play, but I'm beginning to believe that Mitchell's theory may hold some water. How, after two minutes under the hood, could the ref not see that Pinkston was out of bounds? No explanation either. Do you think he would've made that same call if the game were in DC instead of Philly? It's doubtful. That said, we lost 28-6, fellas. No amount of bad officiating is going to make a 22 point difference. We're just a lousy team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walking Deadman Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Wonder how much the NFL is going to fine Smoot for those comments. B/C we don't want to hurt the poor refs. feelings. I swear the officiating is making the NFL look more like the WWE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 You can have your hand on the receiver, Lurman, you just can't move them off their route with it. You're allowed to "feel" for the receiver, they all do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurman Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Originally posted by Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin You can have your hand on the receiver, Lurman, you just can't move them off their route with it. You're allowed to "feel" for the receiver, they all do it. I know that. I guess what I'm saying is he didn't have to do it, and the ref thought he pushed Mitchell down as opposed to their legs becoming tangled. In realtime it could have looked like a push. I'm just frustrated and I think if you really believe the refs are out to screw you, then don't put yourself in a position to get a flag when you don't have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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