jbooma Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 we wasted 2 timeouts on bad plays and a challenge that I think the crowd made it sound like to call, even though it was clearly a TD and now we can't stop the clock so it will be hard to pullout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchild Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 clock management dictated the end of the first half and the end of the game here. We blew both halves and that killed us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted September 28, 2004 Author Share Posted September 28, 2004 just one timeout and we could have kicked a fg to put it in overtime I am still proud of this team and still think we will have a good year. Remember our defense played this way without some of our key players!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins4eva Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Yup, the clock management was really, really awful. In fact, it cost us the game, one time out and we could have won this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenF Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 The Gibbs decision to challenge that last Cowboys TD cost us the game. We were just in field goal position (for a 40-yard field goal) with six seconds left, but had no timeouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishomelette Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 The other 2 Timeouts can be added in to have cost the game.. Should keep one for the very scenario that happened in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiplohmillers#1 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 the loss falls on the shoulders of poor clock management you are correct. I also falls on the decision Gibbs made to challenge that touchdown. Gibbs really needs to get a grip on the challenge situation. I also didnt agree with williams decision to hold off the blitz in that last cowboys series. but the skins will be alright we didnt look like the FLA skins of a year ago. We played with fire and showed something in the comeback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncSKIN Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 It's taking too long to get plays called and the use of timeouts when we were on the 2 yard line in the first half. High-schoolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato Sack Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Oh, I see. It's Gibbs' bad clock management that cost us the game. RIIIIIIIGHT. I'd say we lost the game because of ineffective offensive play due in part by dropped passes and crappy QB play throughout roughly 3 quarters. But, hey....that's just my 2 cents. I'll give the benefit of the doubt to one Joe Gibbs, before I EVER defend our offense tonight. Sure, they looked great at the end. But it was too little, too late when they finally decide they actually want to play like professionals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted September 28, 2004 Author Share Posted September 28, 2004 Gibbs is going to have to change his movements, I noticed a couple of times were the clock hit zero and we didn't hike the ball, we got away with a couple of delay of game calls, and many other times it was at 1 or 2 when we did snap the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Gibbs??? Brunell messed up on the first one getting late out of the huddle, the second was Sellars not getting into formation (Brunnelscreaming at him) and the review I can see why they reviewed it, if the refs said he didn't have control, his knee was out of bounds. but it was close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MumboSauce Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Originally posted by jbooma just one timeout and we could have kicked a fg to put it in overtime I am still proud of this team and still think we will have a good year. Remember our defense played this way without some of our key players!! ^^ agreed! still have some kinks/bugs to work out of the system..but we'll be fine..I dont feel as crushed as I thought id feel..still a bummer...but there is alot of season left and we have games against all of our division foes later in the year, more games period. Go Skins!! Gotta beat the browns...then be 2-2 .500 not the worst. build from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Originally posted by Potato Sack Oh, I see. It's Gibbs' bad clock management that cost us the game. RIIIIIIIGHT. I'd say we lost the game because of ineffective offensive play due in part by dropped passes and crappy QB play throughout roughly 3 quarters. But, hey....that's just my 2 cents. I'll give the benefit of the doubt to one Joe Gibbs, before I EVER defend our offense tonight. Sure, they looked great at the end. But it was too little, too late when they finally decide they actually want to play like professionals. What nerve you have coming in here and talking sense after we just lost to a tough team (by three with a small chance to win in the closing seconds) coached by one of the better coaches in the NFL. You can have my :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted September 28, 2004 Author Share Posted September 28, 2004 Originally posted by bubba9497 Gibbs??? Brunell messed up on the first one getting late out of the huddle, the second was Sellars not getting into formation (Brunnelscreaming at him) and the review I can see why they reviewed it, if the refs said he didn't have control, his knee was out of bounds. but it was close. Bubba that is the coaches fault to get the correct men in. Two playes in a row, you can admit he made a mistake. The crowd was the reason we challenged, he never bobbled it, it was clear. He also should have thought why challenge when you would have no timeouts left and it was obvious, now if you saw the ball hit the ground then challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Originally posted by jbooma Bubba that is the coaches fault to get the correct men in. Two playes in a row, you can admit he made a mistake. The crowd was the reason we challenged, he never bobbled it, it was clear. He also should have thought why challenge when you would have no timeouts left and it was obvious, now if you saw the ball hit the ground then challenge. ???? correct man in.... there was no subsitution on either play? The review was the only questionable mistake, and again I can understand why he took a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtahSkinsFanatic Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I think the problem is that too many coaches are involved in the play calling decisions on the sidelines. I have noticed it all season long and especially tonight when they show the sidelines that Don Breaux and Bugel and a couple of others are talking to Gibbs at the same time plus who knows upstairs is also on the headset to Gibbs. Too many voices at once boggs down the ability to get the calls to the Quarterbacks in quick efficient manner. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mookie0720 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Gibbs is taking way too much time on the sidelines getting in plays, I agree with the previous poster that there are too many people involved over in his ear for the play calling, and he spends too much time talking to Mark on the sidelines. With all the shifts and motions he wants to do, he has to get Brunell into the huddle so that he can get out, with more than 10 seconds on the play clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato Sack Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Originally posted by IAMBG What nerve you have coming in here and talking sense after we just lost to a tough team (by three with a small chance to win in the closing seconds) coached by one of the better coaches in the NFL. You can have my :2cents: Yeh, you're right. What am I thinking? Gibbs is washed up. He really stunk up FedEx with that terrible clock management. I sure wish Steve Spurrier wouldn't have quit. Once again, we're screwed and have no chance to win this season with these coaches of ours. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskns21 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Didn't read anything but the thread title of "Gibbs needs to learn clock management" and my immediate reply would be.... "Booma needs to learn to have a little patience" Christ, it's his 3rd game back. Give the guy a break! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedwitch Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Just because some people think that Gibbs isn't perfect and that he screwed up tonight, does not mean that we think that this loss is all is fault or that he's a bad coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte51Coleman Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I think that Joe himself would be the first to admit that clock mismanagement played a crucial part in this loss. He will fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted September 28, 2004 Author Share Posted September 28, 2004 Originally posted by redskns56 Didn't read anything but the thread title of "Gibbs needs to learn clock management" and my immediate reply would be.... "Booma needs to learn to have a little patience" Christ, it's his 3rd game back. Give the guy a break! Or you need to learn to have a backbone, i was just pointing out one of the reasons we lost, didn't say he was a terrible coach :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NASMTrainer Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Gibbs really needs to get a grip on the challenge situation-chiplohmillers#1 That's really not fair. Joe can only go by what is being told to him from upstairs. You really can't blame him for that. He talks to them, if they say challenege it, he throws the flag. No coach really knows whats going on. They see the replay on the jumbo but usually by then it's to late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Originally posted by jbooma Bubba that is the coaches fault to get the correct men in. You mean he should put someone in who knows where to line up? Sellers should have known where to be on that one play, that's not Gibbs' fault. Although maybe Gibbs should bench him if he keeps making costly mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harper le bel Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 The review was the only questionable mistake questionable?? it was blantant and agregious...the guys a hall of famer and obviously the god you worship...but face it he made a horrendous mistake not to mention the awful play calling on the one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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