Renegade7 Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Compeling question here: What if Kurt Warner played the way he did when he first blew up in St. Louis? The MVP Warner. Think about Toomer, Hilliard, Shockey, Barber, and Warner going off on people. That's some scary stuff, but is it enough to throw off the NFC Beast? What if? (Bet Tom is drooling at the mouth over this one.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 What if The Giants crappy O-line performed like the Rams O-line of '99-01.....and Tiki Barber was a force like Marshall Faulk oh wait :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted June 28, 2004 Author Share Posted June 28, 2004 Originally posted by NoCalMike What if The Giants crappy O-line performed like the Rams O-line of '99-01.....and Tiki Barber was a force like Marshall Faulk oh wait :laugh: Besides the fumbling, Tiki is a pretty dran good back. You have to give him that much atleast. And last year the Giants o-line was riddled with injuries, where at times they had THREE rookies starting. They made improvments, and we've all seen we're a good offense can take you. Better, a great one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKINtil8tin Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Still worry more about Warner this year than I do about Manning. Everyone can call him a bum (I think so too) but the man has shown he can play. The giants still have a couple good receivers and Shockey so I'm worried. Not losing sleep at night but concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afparent Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Originally posted by Renegade7 Compeling question here: What if Kurt Warner played the way he did when he first blew up in St. Louis? The MVP Warner. Think about Toomer, Hilliard, Shockey, Barber, and Warner going off on people. That's some scary stuff, but is it enough to throw off the NFC Beast? What if? (Bet Tom is drooling at the mouth over this one.) LaVar ate him up in 2002...made the boy fumble in the redzone at the end of the game. We also beat LA in Deion's year but Trent Green was QB. We aint scared of that offense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted June 28, 2004 Author Share Posted June 28, 2004 Originally posted by afparent LaVar ate him up in 2002...made the boy fumble in the redzone at the end of the game. We also beat LA in Deion's year but Trent Green was QB. We aint scared of that offense! I'm talking about when Warner first took the Rams to the Super Bowl. When he was like that. That good. Not asking anyone to be afraid, just starting a lil controversy as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinthePRF Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Well it's up to Gregg Williams to create a pass rush. The way you beat Warner is to get to him. Ironically the Giants proved that last year. If the Giants Oline improves leaps and bounds over our improvement of pass rush, it could be a problem. But hey, the Giants historically have always been there to bail us out when we needed a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21dave Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 I think that season was lighting in a bottle. Dick Vermeil was head coach so no one had to worry about ridiculous play calls like the Marc Bulger naked bootleg the Rams seem to run on every 3rd and short. Faulk was the most dominant RB in the game, Warner was zipping his passes to three explosive WR. And people forget how dominating their defense was. That was one of the best teams I've seen in awhile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 When I first saw this thread, I thought to myself "what's wrong with Kurt Warner's back?" :laugh: I believe, after the last few years of playing, his best days are well behind him and his play will be too inconsistent to get anywhere near his old form. His lows will be very, very low and his highs won't be anywhere near his best of highs. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted June 28, 2004 Author Share Posted June 28, 2004 Originally posted by ntotoro When I first saw this thread, I thought to myself "what's wrong with Kurt Warner's back?" :laugh: I believe, after the last few years of playing, his best days are well behind him and his play will be too inconsistent to get anywhere near his old form. His lows will be very, very low and his highs won't be anywhere near his best of highs. Nick Oh, for crying out loud. Where's ya'lls imagination! Jee wiz! :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Originally posted by Renegade7 Oh, for crying out loud. Where's ya'lls imagination! Jee wiz! :laugh: I save it for thinking about what the 'Skins are gonna' do... :logo: Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom [Giants fan] Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Excellent thread Renegade. :thumbsup: And just to clarify, it was four rookies the Giants were starting the last five or six games last year. And they definitely have improved. Especially if Seubert comes back healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuck Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 The question sort of answers itself. If he plays like he did in the past the Giants will do really well. To play like he did in the past means the wide receivers, running back, offensive line will have to play like the Rams did back then as well. The talent level is not there. The receivers cannot break away like the Rams receivers could. Tiki is definately no Marshall Faulk. The only serious weapon the Giants have is Shockey and he's not good enough to turn the Giants into the Rams old high octane offense. Even if he plays much better than recently the receivers have to be open and do something after the catch. I think the Giants are going to be bottom dwellers next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien 91 Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Originally posted by Renegade7 Compeling question here: What if Kurt Warner played the way he did when he first blew up in St. Louis? The MVP Warner. Think about Toomer, Hilliard, Shockey, Barber, and Warner going off on people. That's some scary stuff, but is it enough to throw off the NFC Beast? What if? That is some funny stuff....:laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaganaut Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Warner hasn't had a good game in a LONG time. Do you think St. Louis would give up on him if there wasn't something seriously wrong? Did Baltimore give up on Ray Lewis? Naw, guy's head isn't in the game anymore and once those blitzes start coming from every single team out there, Warner will be on IR and Eli will get treated like Patrick Ramsey under Spurrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJredskins00 Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 He's not going to be throwing to Holt and Bruce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsfan1966 Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 what if he didnt hurt his thumb so he cant grip the ball the way he used to, and what if all those hits to the head hadnt damaged his depth perception. what if doesnt really matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyward72 Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 No way Warner stays healthy even if the Giants Oline has improved. He has two cement blocks tied to his shoes. I think Manning will be in by the 3rd or 4th game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDSKNfaithfull Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 No Faulk the real reason the Rams were so powerfull:D neways we beat the rams twice with Warner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 I really never wish ill will upon others... I hope Warner wins every game in the NFC East except the 2 Redskins games .... Then he goes to another good team in the AFC ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted June 29, 2004 Author Share Posted June 29, 2004 Originally posted by Rypien 91 That is some funny stuff....:laugh: :laugh: You're laughing now. People laughed at the Panthers. People laughed at the Pistons. I was one of them, and I'm not laughing anymore. If you know what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsonny Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 the dude lost out to Bumblger!!!!! The Rams waited too long for Warner to come back around...he needs to drink some more of that special Gatorade ole' Satan gave him when he traded his soul for a Super Bowl ring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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