Religious Right Leaders Blame Iraqi Prison Abuse Scandal On MTV

[phishhead]

Religious Right Leaders Blame Iraqi Prison Abuse Scandal On MTV

Thursday May 13, 2004

Colson Comments 'One Of The Stupidest Things Said About The Abu Ghraib Scandal To Date,' Observes AU's Lynn

Two leaders of the Religious Right have blamed the Iraqi prisoner abuse scandal on a remarkable source: watching too much MTV.

Chuck Colson spoke this week at a pastors' briefing in Washington sponsored by the Family Research Council. In a May 12 e-mail to supporters, FRC President Tony Perkins observed, "As Chuck Colson pointed out at yesterday's Pastors' Briefing, when you mix young people who grew up on a steady diet of MTV and pornography with a prison environment, you get the abuse at Abu Ghraib."

Perkins also accused "the liberal media" of using the photos "in an effort to damage the Bush Administration."

The remarks drew derision from Americans United for Separation of Church and State, a Washington, D.C.-based watchdog group.

The Rev. Barry W. Lynn, Americans United executive director, made the following comment: "This is one of the stupidest things said about the Abu Ghraib scandal to date. Seeing Colson and Perkins stoop this low should not really surprise me, but I'm disappointed at their lack of imagination. Surely they could have found some way to blame the scandal on same-sex marriage, Bill Clinton or activist judges. Blaming every horrible thing that happens on MTV is SO '80s."

http://www.au.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=6651&abbr=pr&JServSessionIdr011=79ax8fbe81.app13a&security=1002&news_iv_ctrl=1241

Ahh, the idiocy of the religious right never ends!

[Commander PK]

I will say this, I don't believe that MTV is responsible for the prison abuse at the prison, but I do believe that MTV is a negative influence....absolutely.

[Commander PK]

I'm not a member of the religous right either. I do believe that MTV is a WILLING contributing factor, not the only factor to many of our society's ills. Pre-Teen sex and drugs, and **** children (baby mama, baby daddy) just to name a couple. That's sure as hell not progress.

[BD]

1. Totally inaccurate.

2. Try asking the "Rev." Barry Lynn what church he has ever presided over.

BD

[phishhead]

BD,

Whats totally inaccurate?

Its nice to throw things like that out, but not backing them up is harmful to discussion.

Also, I'm not sure he's presided over any particular church, but he is an ordained minister in the United Church of Christ... not that it really matters.

[Commander PK]

"Perkins also accused "the liberal media" of using the photos "in an effort to damage the Bush Administration."

Oh my friends, make no mistake....they are!

[BG]

i blame all the probelms of the world on people that are completely out of touch with the real world.

And here I am on a damn computer on Fiday night.

But hey, I've lived, seen things and deserve a night at home relaxing...

Just kind of ironic.

[Sarge]

What cracks me up is suddenly libs are "shocked" and "disgusted" by these pictures. Diane Feinstein, being the leader of the pack, was the one that voted to keep gay bath houses open in San Franfreako. Hell, they've been PROMOTING crap like this for years. The party of homo rights and the "If it feels good, do it" mantra finally has the chickens coming in to roost.

[chomerics]

Originally posted by Sarge

What cracks me up is suddenly libs are "shocked" and "disgusted" by these pictures. Diane Feinstein, being the leader of the pack, was the one that voted to keep gay bath houses open in San Franfreako. Hell, they've been PROMOTING crap like this for years. The party of homo rights and the "If it feels good, do it" mantra finally has the chickens coming in to roost.

Sarge, who's your connection? because I could use some of that chronic you've been smoking, I haven't had any in a while.

Liberals AND conservatives are shocked and disgusted at what happened. It's not a partisain issue, but you try to make it out to be because it's you only defense possible for the atrocious actions that went on in Abu Ghriab.

Now, we're starting to get information that this wasn't an isolated case at all, but there have been initital findings that thisx crap went on in Guantanamo Bay, Afghanistan and other prisons in Iraq. For you to blame the "liberal media" is so far from the truth, it reaks of a failing administrations lack of leadership and their inability to lead the country through one of the most damming scandals in the past 100 years!!!

The Liberal media has been "PROMOTING" crap like this for years

Do you even read your posts Sarge? Since when do I see the liberal media promoting detainees to rectally impare themselves until bleeding occurs. Since when do I see the liberal media promoting lack of rights and torture to other humans.

If any segment of the media is at fault, it's the RRR. This episode has the rotten stench of a sadistic homophobic behavior. The fact that you can torture somebody by rectally imparing them is a classic case of homophobia, probably listening to Jerry Fallwell and Rush Limbaugh all day long made him do this.

The liberal media is at fault? come on Sarge, show your true colors, you know this was Clinton's fault, just admitt it.

[AJWatson3]

i blame the teletubbies... especially the purple one...

[JimboDaMan]

I think some segments of the right wing are literally crumbling before our very eyes. Not a pretty sight. I was wondering how long it would take for Janet Jackson's right breast to be blamed for the homosexual torture of detainees on the other side of the planet.:doh1:

[DaFunky1]

Originally posted by chomerics

The fact that you can torture somebody by rectally imparing them is a classic case of homophobia, probably listening to Jerry Fallwell and Rush Limbaugh all day long made him do this.

I love how people like to toss out prominent pastors from the right and call them homophobes. chomerics you don't know squat. Here is an article published originally on Worldnetdaily.com by Falwell... tell me after reading it that he is a homophobe. I think you will see he is not. He disagrees with the lifestyle, as many americans do, and because he does you label him a homophobe.

BTW I am not a supporter of Falwell's, I have read a few articles he has written over the years, but I couldn't say too much about the guy except he is consistent and he is human and from time to time says some stupid stuff. I do feel it is important to point out when someone is talking out their butt though.

Here is the article....

Why did I do it?

This past weekend in Lynchburg, Va., my ministry hosted an anti-violence summit with about 200 homosexual-rights advocates and 200 conservative Christians in attendance. The purpose of this assembly was to design a dual strategy, within both constituencies, calling for an end to the epidemic of violence in our nation. The Rev. Mel White, co-chair of Soulforce and my friend for more than 15 years, organized the assemblage of religious homosexuals, while I directed the conservative-Christian branch.

During the press conference that followed the anti-violence forum, I shared a personal story with more than 100 media persons from around the country. I told how I was once asked by a reporter, "Rev. Falwell, what would you do if one of your sons told you, 'Dad, I'm gay'?" (My children were still at home when I was asked this question. They are now parents themselves.)

I responded, "There is absolutely nothing one of my three children could say or do that would cause me to expel them from my love or from my home. If my son told me he was gay, I would tell him, "While I do not approve of the lifestyle you have chosen, I love you unconditionally; this is still your home. And while I pray that I can lead you back to normalcy, nothing has changed in our relationship."

As most people know, my position on homosexuality is founded in the Bible. I believe the Bible -- God's infallible Word -- prohibits all sexual activity outside the traditional bonds of marriage between a man and woman. I Thessalonians 4:3 tells us to "abstain from fornication." I Peter 2:11 further teaches us to "abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul."

Romans 1:26-27 informs us of an earlier time when sexual immorality and self-worship brought great consequence to those involved. "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet." Other similar verses abound.

With 200 homosexuals staring me in the face last Saturday, I accentuated the biblical position that homosexuality is sin. I also cautioned everyone attending that meeting that my position would never falter. I will never presume to counter God's Law.

However, I believe that the Bible also calls me (and all Christians, for that matter) to be a minister of God's Truth. That means that I am to love all people -- no matter how much I may disagree with them. The anti-violence forum was therefore designed to not only join forces with the homosexual community in reducing the strident rhetoric, on both sides of this debate, but to build a bridge of love and communication to the millions of gays and lesbians in our culture.

Can We Love God and Not Our Brother?

Nevertheless, while Christians cannot condone homosexuality, there is no biblical mandate that we must viciously rebuke those who embrace that lifestyle. The Rev. Fred Phelps of Topeka, Kan., who protested our summit along with a handful of supporters, takes a radically different approach.

Phelps and his entourage spat out venomous taunts at homosexuals attending the summit, as well as thousands of my church members on Sunday morning. I believe Phelps and his ilk are dangerous because their noxious words are motivated by hatred. I believe there is a distinct likelihood that their words can coerce violence. That is not how my Bible tells me we are to conduct our lives.

Matthew 5:44 instructs us to, "Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you." By loving those who oppose us, we stand on the high ground and gain an ability to clearly communicate the gospel of Christ. No one pays any heed to the message of Fred Phelps because it offers no hope of redemption -- only retribution.

I challenge Rev. Phelps to explain how he can justify his actions when the Bible cautions against such endeavors. "Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another" (I John 4:11). I remind Rev. Phelps of another verse, I John 4:20: "If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar; for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?"

I truly believe that the Bible compels Christians to humbly reach out with the message of the gospel. God saved me out of a life of sin, and He can do it for anyone. Anyone! Carrying signs that reflect alarming messages such as "Fags Burn In Hell," strikingly contrasts the biblical command to "preach the gospel to every creature" (Mark 16:15).

That is one of the verses that prompted me to agree to host the anti-violence summit. My hope is that many more people will now openly listen to my message because I have clarified that my impetus for preaching the gospel of Christ is His perfect love. There is no hate motivating my message and I am going to be ever cautious to ensure that my position is always motivated in this regard.

'New Creatures' in Christ

One need look no further than the electrifying testimony of Michael Johnston to see how God is not limited in whom He can reach. Michael, who joined us in Lynchburg over the weekend, was consumed by the homosexual lifestyle for many years. As a tragic result, he now carries the AIDS virus.

But God is gloriously using Michael as he courageously shares Christ's love and redemptive power with many people that may otherwise never hear the gospel message. Of course, he is paying a price for this effort as the homosexual community bitterly attacks his labors. Michael's full reward will not come in this world; but in a greater world that lies ahead.

It is important to note that when Michael fully gave his life to Christ, he became a "new creature" in Him. God accepts us where we are, but He immediately draws us to Him and calls us to a life of transformation in Him. "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new" (II Corinthians 5:17). To disregard this verse is to be blinded by one's own desires.

Great Christian theologian A.W. Tozer described salvation as "the restoration of a right relation between man and his Creator." He continued by saying that "a satisfactory spiritual life will begin with a complete change in relation between God and the sinner; not a judicial change merely, but a conscious and experienced change affecting the sinner's whole nature."

I am committed to helping Michael Johnston and thousands of other "ex-gays" declare their message of godly deliverance because I continue to believe that many homosexuals are hungering for an escape from their lifestyle. Furthermore, I agree with Robert Knight of the Family Research Council who said last week, "Pretending darkness is light does not turn sin into virtue."

There would be no value to my message if I ignored the transformation of the Christian that is mandated by Christ.

Opposition to the Summit

I realize that many will continue to stridently oppose my message. Bob Kunst, leader of the homosexual-rights group known as the Oral Majority, is one such person. Bob also protested our anti-violence summit, saying that I should stay out of homosexuals' business. He also believes that my insistence in calling homosexuality sin is, in itself, a precarious insult to homosexuals.

Nevertheless, I cannot turn a blind eye to Romans, Chapter 1, and several other biblical passages simply because Bob Kunst doesn't like the message that his actions are sinful and dangerous. My objective is not to challenge Bob's right to conduct his life as he pleases -- within the bounds of law that we all must observe. My intent is rather to challenge the homosexual agenda which, I believe, not only counters the Bible, but also contradicts the Judeo-Christian values set forth by our nation's Founding Fathers.

I not only have a right to challenge him, I believe I have a biblical mandate to confront the culture -- as did the Apostle Paul -- with the Truth of Christ.

Our Age of Violence

Will this summit thwart the death of a homosexual young person at the hand of a brutal attacker? Will this summit avert Christian young people from being slaughtered in their schools and churches by crazed gunmen? I can only hope that it will have a positive impact in saving lives or averting assaults.

All people in our nation deserve the right to pursue their lives in a safe environment. Any Christian who lifts a hand against a homosexual does so without the approval of God. While I will preach homosexuality as sin until the day I die, I will also condemn the bitter anger that occasionally rears its head by those claiming to be Christians. In addition, the homosexual community must stop their assaults on Christians.

I repeat that I am committed to upholding the biblical message of Christ's redemptive power. It is my sincere hope that, through this meeting, we will positively affect this violent culture in which we live. It is also my fervent hope that we can affect eternity. I pray that, through the high visibility of this summit, many individuals will soon come to know the peace "which passeth all understanding" that Paul described in Philippians 4:7.

[aREDSKIN]

Originally posted by Skinsfan75

"Perkins also accused "the liberal media" of using the photos "in an effort to damage the Bush Administration."

Oh my friends, make no mistake....they are!

Two of the most prominent are the Daily Mirror & the Boston Globe. Both papers used exisiting "manufactured" photos already proven to be false, from a porn site, in their papers in an effort to discredit the admin. They knew they were false & printed them anyways. I know the SC has decide that news organizations are under no obligation to tell the truth but come on anyone with a mircon of matter can see wht the libs are up to. I wonder why their constituency can't.

[JimboDaMan]

Originally posted by aREDSKIN

Two of the most prominent are the Daily Mirror & the Boston Globe. Both papers used exisiting "manufactured" photos already proven to be false, from a porn site, in their papers in an effort to discredit the admin. They knew they were false & printed them anyways. I know the SC has decide that news organizations are under no obligation to tell the truth but come on anyone with a mircon of matter can see wht the libs are up to. I wonder why their constituency can't.

Do you have any links to back up that this was anything other than stupid?

The Daily Mirror editor lost his job, and the Globe pulled the pics within hours and has been under intense fire and issuing apologies since. I see nothing that makes this anything but laxness and stupidity.

While we're skewering these "libs" for perpetuating fakes maybe we can explain why right-wingers still use the falsehood about how Al Gore claimed to invent the internet, 5 years after any reading of the transcript shows this to be untrue?

Or more currently, should I search the archives here for your posts ranting about those conservative news sources printing the ridiculous Kerry-Fonda fake photo, or the false intern story about Kerry?

You make a serious charge and I see no evidence to back it up.

[Bang]

Actually, the stupidest thing said to date has been

"Let's release 800 potential enemy soldiers."

So, to date we have

given control of a city over to generals that were our sworn enemy only months ago. (A city, that we KNEW held the leader of the militia that has been battling us for months... we knew where he was.)

And released 800 military aged men from internment.

Say, why don't we just give them some tanks while we';re at it.

maybe show them how to fly an f-18..

need some bullets, abu? No problem, we can get you some.

How's about a nice uniform? No? Prefer we don't know who you are? OK.. no problem don't worry buddy,, our news media will make sure that I can't touch you no matter what you do, so let me just paint a big bullseye on my helmet to make it easier for you."

It's truly disgusting.

~Bang

[Johnny Punani2]

Originally posted by AJWatson3

i blame the teletubbies... especially the purple one...

I knew someone would say this...

hey AJ, for your info that story was a lie.

[Duncan]

Originally posted by JimboDaMan

Or more currently, should I search the archives here for your posts ranting about those conservative news sources printing the ridiculous Kerry-Fonda fake photo, or the false intern story about Kerry?

Certainly you agree there is a diffierence between the Boston Globe and rightwinger.com?

[Johnny Punani2]

Originally posted by Duncan

Certainly you agree there is a difference between the Boston Globe and right winger.com?

Not really the Boston Globe printed a bogus story to try and cover Kerry's arse over the international leaders supporting Kerry fiasco. They reported they were the one's who said it after Kerry got heat for it. That's the first time I've ever seen a paper try and cover a politician's arse but Kerry is the hometown loony lib so I can see the reason..

[aREDSKIN]

Originally posted by JimboDaMan

Do you have any links to back up that this was anything other than stupid?

The Daily Mirror editor lost his job, and the Globe pulled the pics within hours and has been under intense fire and issuing apologies since. I see nothing that makes this anything but laxness and stupidity.

While we're skewering these "libs" for perpetuating fakes maybe we can explain why right-wingers still use the falsehood about how Al Gore claimed to invent the internet, 5 years after any reading of the transcript shows this to be untrue?

Or more currently, should I search the archives here for your posts ranting about those conservative news sources printing the ridiculous Kerry-Fonda fake photo, or the false intern story about Kerry?

You make a serious charge and I see no evidence to back it up.

From the Boston Herald. There are additional sites out there that describe the correspondence between the Globe and others prior to publication who had previously deunked theses photographs but since they are less than liberal I'll forgo that for now.

I wished the Herald had not use "duped" that implies victimization and the Globe is a perputrator here and not a victim.

Globe caught with pants down: Paper duped into running porn photos

By Herald staff

Thursday, May 13, 2004The Boston Globe was reeling yesterday after graphic photos of alleged sexual abuse of Iraqi women by U.S. soldiers turned out to be staged shots from a hardcore porn Web site.

``This photo should not have appeared in the Globe,'' editor Martin Baron said in a statement. ``First, images portrayed in the photo were overly graphic. Second, as the story clearly pointed out, those images were never authenticated as photos of prisoner abuse. There was a lapse in judgment and procedures, and we apologize for it.''

The ``lapse'' came after City Councilor Chuck Turner and perennial pot-stirrer Sadiki Kambon called a press conference in the wake of the Abu Ghraib prison scandal to display more purported abuse photos. Turner claimed they came from ``a very legitimate person'' but admitted they hadn't been authenticated. Kambon said he got them from a representative of the Nation of Islam. Neither Turner nor Kambon returned calls.

But yesterday, WorldNetDaily.com reported the pictures - which show hard-core sex acts and genitalia - came from a pornographic site.

The Globe ran a picture of Turner and Kambon displaying the images. In a large shot in the paper's early editions, pornographic details are clearly visible. In later editions, the photograph was reduced, making the images slightly more obscure. A number of news outlets - including the Herald and The Associated Press - attended the conference but did not run a story after determining the photos were highly suspicious.

The issue reportedly was the subject of much Globe newsroom debate. According to WorldNetDaily, Globe reporter Donovan Slack did not approve of the photos being published but they were OK'd by ``three Boston Globe editors.''

Her story did note the pictures ``bear no characteristics that would prove the men are US soldiers or that the women are Iraqis.''

Slack told the Herald she had ``no comment,'' then hung up. But she is quoted on the Web site saying she was ``surprised'' the Globe decided to run the story.

``It's insane,'' Slack said. ``Can you imagine getting this with your cup of coffee in the morning? Somehow it got through all our checks. Our publisher's not having a very good day today.''

Later she quips, ``I'll be working at Penthouse soon!'' The president of the Globe's parent New York Times reportedly is ``furious.''

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=27679

[chomerics]

Originally posted by Johnny 'Luscious' Punani

Not really the Boston Globe printed a bogus story to try and cover Kerry's arse over the international leaders supporting Kerry fiasco. They reported they were the one's who said it after Kerry got heat for it. That's the first time I've ever seen a paper try and cover a politician's arse but Kerry is the hometown loony lib so I can see the reason..

Are you arguing that Kerry has not spoken to world leaders about George Bush?

Kerry seconed that notion an Meet the press last weekend, I guess you missed that one. In fact, he would be an absolute moron to extole the leaders identity who he claims backed him. What wouold that accomplish? An already defunked American Forign policy even more in the crapper. Yea, he should have listed thje names

DaFunky1-- Look at your post and read between the lines.

Fallwell says:

As most people know, my position on homosexuality is founded in the Bible. I believe the Bible -- God's infallible Word -- prohibits all sexual activity outside the traditional bonds of marriage between a man and woman. I Thessalonians 4:3 tells us to "abstain from fornication." I Peter 2:11 further teaches us to "abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul."

Romans 1:26-27 informs us of an earlier time when sexual immorality and self-worship brought great consequence to those involved. "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet." Other similar verses abound.

With 200 homosexuals staring me in the face last Saturday, I accentuated the biblical position that homosexuality is sin. I also cautioned everyone attending that meeting that my position would never falter. I will never presume to counter God's Law.

However, I believe that the Bible also calls me (and all Christians, for that matter) to be a minister of God's Truth. That means that I am to love all people -- no matter how much I may disagree with them. The anti-violence forum was therefore designed to not only join forces with the homosexual community in reducing the strident rhetoric, on both sides of this debate, but to build a bridge of love and communication to the millions of gays and lesbians in our culture.

And while I pray that I can lead you back to normalcy

So now, how is claiming that homosexuality is not God's will, that he does not agree with it, that it is morally wrong, immoral and reprehensible not cause a homophobia?

Can you see the contridictions in his statements, and this quote?

Homosexsuality is wrong, immoral and not of Gods will, but since I am a christian and I am tought to love all creatures I must love homosexuals no matter how immoral or wrong their views may be.

Proclaiming Homosexuality is a sin, against gods will and morally reprehensible is not sticking up for gays. He's just saying you shouldn't bash them over the head. Yea, this blatent sticking up for the homosexual community by claiming it's a sin and not of god's will doesn't promote homophobia. :doh1:

[Thiebear]

I believe it was proven that Kerry didnt talk to world leaders...

but that is a different story and a side track.

A Newspaper with how many editors and stops before anything hits the actual page. Then when a paper is printed it is not looked at and gone through real quick?

Is this Strike 2 or Strike 3 for the Globe?

[Johnny Punani2]

Originally posted by chomerics

Are you arguing that Kerry has not spoken to world leaders about George Bush?

Kerry seconed that notion an Meet the press last weekend, I guess you missed that one. In fact, he would be an absolute moron to extole the leaders identity who he claims backed him. What wouold that accomplish? An already defunked American Forign policy even more in the crapper. Yea, he should have listed thje names

:doh:

No, The Boston Globe said they were the ones who reported the story about Kerry talking to foreign leaders about the election and they said they made it up. This after Kerry is on the record making the statement himself...

[DaFunky1]

chomerics... lets look at it for what the summit was not what you think he is trying to promote...

A homophobe would not put himself in the room with 200 homosexuals willingly.

A homophobe would not say Christians should love everyone, including gays.

It was an opportunity for Christians and religious homosexuals to meet and discuss their differences and try to get a better understanding of where each other is. Where was he trying to promote a phobia? I guess since he uses scriptures then the bible must be homophobic as well?

I'm sure you know a phobia is an irrational fear. I don't see where he is afraid of homosexuals. He even states, and you can call the guy a token if you want to, that he has been friends with a gay man for 15 years in his article. I know many leaders of the "religious right" are against the homosexual agenda, but that does not make them homophobic.

What I continue to see is if you have moral views that contradict the left you are promoting a phobia. Personally I don't think homosexuality is normal, however I work with numerous homosexuals, and if you want to know the truth I could care less what they do in their spare time. That is totally up to them. I would promote the guy/gal if they deserve, base their promotions on their performance and not their lifestyle.

I guess since I disagree with you on homosexuality and think it is immoral then I guess you can label me a homophobe as well. So be it.

Peace

[JimboDaMan]

Originally posted by Johnny 'Luscious' Punani

Originally posted by chomerics

Are you arguing that Kerry has not spoken to world leaders about George Bush?

Kerry seconed that notion an Meet the press last weekend, I guess you missed that one. In fact, he would be an absolute moron to extole the leaders identity who he claims backed him. What wouold that accomplish? An already defunked American Forign policy even more in the crapper. Yea, he should have listed thje names

:doh:

No, The Boston Globe said they were the ones who reported the story about Kerry talking to foreign leaders about the election and they said they made it up. This after Kerry is on the record making the statement himself...

Wrong. Again.

[chomerics]

Originally posted by Johnny 'Luscious' Punani

Originally posted by chomerics

Are you arguing that Kerry has not spoken to world leaders about George Bush?

Kerry seconed that notion an Meet the press last weekend, I guess you missed that one. In fact, he would be an absolute moron to extole the leaders identity who he claims backed him. What wouold that accomplish? An already defunked American Forign policy even more in the crapper. Yea, he should have listed thje names

:doh:

No, The Boston Globe said they were the ones who reported the story about Kerry talking to foreign leaders about the election and they said they made it up. This after Kerry is on the record making the statement himself...

I think you're getting the two issues mixed up, the photos and the statements. The Herald article was of the Globe publishing the photographs, not the Kerry statement. Again, if the article exists which says the Globe lied about Kerry talking to world leaders, I want to see it.