skin_finatic Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 this is for all aroud play, not just graphics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallyG3 Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Where is the "I don't give a crap, stop posting threads about this" option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Bout time we had a poll bout this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 hmmm Gibbs or Spurrier? hmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 shouldn't we have waited till the new games came out, so then the sheeps will cross fields :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morning Wood Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 One thread arguing all this wasn't enough? We gotta have an "Official" poll? Must be May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezings81 Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 ....and then BOOM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skin_finatic Posted May 12, 2004 Author Share Posted May 12, 2004 Originally posted by Morning Wood One thread arguing all this wasn't enough? We gotta have an "Official" poll? Must be May. thanks for the critisim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 thats ok when my fellow (cough) espn gamers who work during the day come home (cough) we will dominate :laugh: It is only the kids in college who can't afford both who truly don't understand the beauty of ESPN :laugh: No sheeps allowed in this poll. It would only be fair to ask if you have tasted both games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUSTINMFOX Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 I think that Madden will certainly win this poll due to it's reputation alone. Most people wouldn't even consider buying or thinking about anything else. I feel pity for them, because though both are great games...ESPN is slightly better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morning Wood Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Originally posted by skin_finatic thanks for the critisim. Didn't mean to offend. I'm not tryin to be a jerk, or the forum police. But there are at least 4 different threads goin on right now that are touchin on this subject. I'm a game geek as much as the next guy, but come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Originally posted by Morning Wood Didn't mean to offend. I'm not tryin to be a jerk, or the forum police. But there are at least 4 different threads goin on right now that are touchin on this subject. I'm a game geek as much as the next guy, but come on. morning it is may, the worst time for football fans, they are just having fun trust me when the season starts up you won't be seeing these posts here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSF Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 I play both.. and to me.. ESPN couldnt hold Maddens jock. Gotta vote for Madden without even a moment of hesistation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morning Wood Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Yeah JB, I know its May (I even said "Must be May" earlier in this thread). I was tryin to keep my criticisms lighthearted. I understand the boredom, I'm feelin it too. So, geek on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Since the new versions are not out yet, I can't really say which is better. I will try both. Last year, I bought both and I didn't like ESPN because of the game play. Madden was better IMO. But I have no allegiance to either, which ever is the better game is the one I will keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAC Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 I think Madden was just barey better last year. This year it's going to be damn close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qb18_200400 Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 if you compare the gameplay in last years additions of both madden and espn, espn was better. But in every other catagory, madden holds it. ESPN looks exactly the same as last year. Madden has upgraded their graphics and now look 10 times better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Worthy Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 :helmet: ESPN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Sassy Molassy Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 I can't wait to see the new versions of both games. The competition alone will make for better gameplay and graphics from each vendor, no matter what we think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsMarchingBand Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 the decidiing factor will be who has the redskins rated better next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMonkey Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 It's funny to see people comparing Madden and ESPN cause they are very different games geared for to different markets...Madden is a football sim geared for the hardcore baller, while ESPN aka NFL2k is geared for the casual gamer whereas anyone can pick up the sticks and play...you can't do that in Madden cause the AI is more complexed than the NFL2k series. If any of you played the old Dreamcast NFL2k series that's what ESPN Football is...Great graphics and play by play calling but poor in gameplay and AI, where Madden shines in these two areas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c4man5282 Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 I've played both and they both have there good spots and bad spots. But overall MADDEN is the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmac1577 Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 now that madden 05 supports xbox live the espn sega football franchise will struggle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Pablo Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 Originally posted by MadMonkey It's funny to see people comparing Madden and ESPN cause they are very different games geared for to different markets...Madden is a football sim geared for the hardcore baller, while ESPN aka NFL2k is geared for the casual gamer whereas anyone can pick up the sticks and play...you can't do that in Madden cause the AI is more complexed than the NFL2k series. If any of you played the old Dreamcast NFL2k series that's what ESPN Football is...Great graphics and play by play calling but poor in gameplay and AI, where Madden shines in these two areas Dude, ESPN2k3 was impossible on the normal setting... I don't care what anyone says, you couldn't pass in that game cuz the AI was ridiculous. As for the Madden series, the AI isn't the smartest in the world especially considering playmaker capabilities (which I still consider cheating, no QB can manage to call an audible a second before the ball is snapped). Over all, I don't think you can label one game as a sim and the other as an arcade game ala NFL Blitz. I think the Madden running game is more realistic versus ESPN where you can run as you please if you mash some buttons. Apparently they fixed the ESPN running game so broken tackles won't happen at whim. Madden's passing has always lagged in my opinion and this dates back to the SNES/Genesis days. ESPN is light years ahead in this department. Of course, I have noticed the passing game in Madden becomes more and more responsive each year, which is nice. Its a matter of opinion for gameplay, but I'd go with Madden. This year, however, I might be leaning toward ESPN with that tighter running game. As for bells and whistles, training camp in Madden really does it for me. I really enjoy all of franchise mode in Madden. ESPN kinda sucks here because I really could care less about a crib, but this year they sound like they've really narrowed the gap and then some. As for on-line play, obviously ESPN takes it because they've had years to work on their servers, presentation, and lag issues. I'd definately go with Madden here. As for graphics, its really a matter of opinion. I personally think those guys that talk about Madden as having the most realistic player models are nuts. In the early days of the Sega 2k series, the models did indeed look like elongated aliens, but eversince last year, whew, those models look ridiculous. The pics I see of this years edition look like real NFL bodies. Madden continues to have stumpy looking players, and I don't play on widescreen tv's so there shouldn't be a reason all the players look so condensed. As for animations, Madden is by far more realistic. ESPN has some exagerated motions, which I kind of like, such as the various jukes and hurdles. In all, its opinion and I like ESPN here. My conclusion is that this past year, Madden was a better game because I really value a good franchise mode and gameplay is a very close second. This year, I have a feeling I might be leaning toward ESPN's gameplay, presentation, and graphics over Madden's awesome franchise mode. What it'll probably come down to is how well the Skins are rated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakkhim Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 ESPN vs. Madden is like arguing over Chevy vs. Ford. Both sides have good, valid arguments, but it's impossible to come to a conclusion. My chioce, though? ESPN by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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