Jethrodsp Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 LT hands down. Lott was a great great player, but LT was maybe the most dominant defensive player ever. I know Joe Gibbs and Co had nightmares. LT was Parcells' secret weapon with the Giants, he made that defense. The closest thing we've seen to LT is Ray Lewis in terms of intensity and leadership on the field. Hopefully Lavar can get to that point so I can put a Skin in that category of LBs. Hail Skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokieSkinsFan Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 LT by a mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachey79 Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 LT by 100 miles. The only guy I ever saw neutralize him without help was Jim Lachey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethrodsp Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 All due respect to Jim (and there is a lot of respect due), Lachey caught Taylor on the downside of his career while Jim was in his prime. NO ONE could block LT one on one. He was a monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Adama Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 LT made quarterbacks quake in their shoes, while Lott did the same for receivers, though LT, I think was a bigger monster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GloryDays2k4 Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 LT was an absolute beast. He changed the game of football the way Jordan changed basketball. If you look at LBs since then the most sought after are of his mold, physically. Speed size and strength opposing offenses knew he was coming but couldn't stop him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triple6mafia Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 lt cause he is a linebacker and he just jacked up theismann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manichispanic Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 didnt LT play with a dislocated shoulder. I saw a clip of him wearing this huge leather sling around it. He just goes out like their no problem.......... jesus man, i;m out for a week if i tweak an ankle :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yank Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Originally posted by DieselPwr44 Between LT and Lott, LT wins hands down. LT was so scary that it made Joe Gibbs change the way he set up his offense. Gibbs credits LT with making him come up with the one back backfield and placing an extra TE on the field. As for all time scary, IMO it's a tie between Deacon Jones and Dick Butkus. I've seen so many interviews from past players where it was a general consensus that nobody wanted to play against these two. Just wish I could've actually seen these two play more. From all the footage I've seen,they could truly dominate a game.:2cents: Going back some more, I have seen Big Daddy Lipscomb, Dick Night Train Lane, Mike Curtis, Ted Hendricks, Bubba Smith (yes, I'm a reformed Colts fan) Jack Lambert, Rat Nitschke and even our own Sam Huff lay some major wood .. But yes, you picked probably the best two, Butkus and Jones, who could be mentioned with LT and Lott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Lott didn't force teams to redesign offensive schemes to deal with him they way teams did with LT. And while a great hitter, I wouldn't say that Lott brought it any harder than some of the guys mentioned in the previous post, or guys like Mike Curtis or Chris Hanburger. Wide receivers and QBs knew where Lott was, but entire offenses knew where LT was. Yet I'll also add this. While LT was a great player, he wasn't great every play. And one guy who could go toe to toe with him was Joe Jacoby. Jacoby was one of the few tackles that could withstand that tremedous leg drive of LT's and not be bull rushed. Jacoby often forced LT to find other gaps in the OL through which to rush, and allowed us to realize that the best way to neutralize LT (not always effectively) was to run right at him. The secret to LT, if you never saw him play, was his lower body. He had the hips, legs, thighs, and calves of a much bigger man. He probably had the most powerfully developed lower body of any athelete I've seen play. And it wasn't all strength either - he could really get those legs moving, and he had great agility. Anyway, I really don't see the comparison. Lott was great at his position, but LT was something beyond that - a football force of nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72SKINS Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 L.T. most definetely.. he was one of the most feared linbackers since Dick Butkus.. Both were outstanding players but L.T. changed the way the game was played. "HAIL TO THE REDSKINS" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte51Coleman Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 If L.T. was playing today he would still be the baddest dude on the field (not at his current age of course!). He had an unbelievably rare combination of athletic ability, heart, attitude, and chemical dependency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte51Coleman Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Originally posted by The X-Factor If LaVar and Taylor live up to their potentials we could have BOTH of those types of players on one team. If that's not scary, I don't know what is. I love Lavar but....he will never be L.T. Lawrence Taylor was L.T. right from the get go. You didn't have to wait for him to develop. Lavar has all of the physical gifts but nowhere near the football intelligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjbrown Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 LT was definitely the most feared. I saw him take (I believe it was) Jim Lachey head on toe to toe, arms locked, when Jim was a Pro Bowler, and throw him to the side, and make the sack. Jim was a 300 lbs, great player. LT could engage 3 men on a play: beat a double team on the line, and hit the blocking back who stayed for max protect. I saw him hurdle scared blockers and easily beat 300 lb linemen. LT could cover too. I saw him take backs, and even go in the flat with receivers. LT was one of the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poidog22 Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Originally posted by Oldskool IIRC Lott broke his finger on an opponents helmet and tore some of the flesh off of it so he could continue playing. Lott actually broke his finger, and then later had the top of it amputated so he could stay in the lineup for the playoffs that year....now that's one tough SOB.... But if you want to talk most feared, I would have to go with LT, I hated seeing that line up against us 2 sometimes 3 times a year beacuse you knew that he could (and usually would) make one play to turn the game around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfanforlife Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Just ask Joe Theisman who was the most feared. I know they both played different position but Lott is nowhere near LT when it comes to putting fear into opponents. LT was scary as ****. Of course when u on crack most of the time, you cant help but to act crazy on the field i suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfanforlife Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Originally posted by Renegade7 It sucks being so young sometimes. Hate to make some of ya'll feel old. Sorry. Didn't LT break one of our QBs legs? Didn't Lott mess up his finger then cut it off to go back into the game? My dad told me about it, and I was just, wow. These guys are monsters! Or is that an understatement? LT ended Joe Theisman's career. It had to be the sickest thing ive ever seen on T.V that was real. It was so sudden and so shocking that i almost threw up. I was like 8 or 9 years old at the time i think and it was just nasty. Broke his leg in half like as if it was a toothpick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Was he on crack 'all the time'. Was he on crack at all (I thought it was only coke back then)? It's a shame that his gameday reputation suffers from wondering whether his recreational habits carried onto the field and influenced his play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aREDSKIN Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Originally posted by Terry Was he on crack 'all the time'. Was he on crack at all (I thought it was only coke back then)? It's a shame that his gameday reputation suffers from wondering whether his recreational habits carried onto the field and influenced his play. One dosen't have to wonder if he was "coked" up on game day. He's admitted it numerous times that he was. It's too bad that his reputation is such because of the "coke". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfanforlife Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Originally posted by Terry Was he on crack 'all the time'. Was he on crack at all (I thought it was only coke back then)? It's a shame that his gameday reputation suffers from wondering whether his recreational habits carried onto the field and influenced his play. As far as i know from watching his interviews once he retired, he admitted that he was on crack or coke which ever, alot of times during games. You never seen his interviews? I think he was also on 20 20. Now ive never done coke in my life but from what ive heard , it keeps you up and hyper as hell. He probably didnt feel lot of pain either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Complete Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 'It sounds like a Paul Bunyan tale,' Ronnie Lott said recently with a laugh. Paul Bunyan in this tale would be Lott, a Hall of Fame defensive back. It begins with Lott -- playing for the San Francisco 49ers -- making a tackle in a 1985 game against the visiting Dallas Cowboys. On the play, Lott got his left little finger stuck between a helmet and a shoulder pad, slicing open the finger. 'It was split down the middle,' said Lott's college teammate Dennis Thurman, who played for the Cowboys at the time. 'I've heard the story goes I cut it off in the locker room myself and went back out,' Lott said. He then joked, 'I forgot (the truth). It's like Babe Ruth pointing to center field. That's the kind of story it's turned out to be.' In reality, Lott missed the remainder of the game, the final one of the regular season. He then had the finger temporarily repaired so he would be able to play in the NFC Wild Card game against the New York Giants the following week. Eventually, doctors amputated the tip of the finger. 'The doctors thought it would be better for me to do that since I was continuing to play,' said Lott, who would play nine more years. He says losing the finger was not that big of a deal. 'It wasn't like I was going to have a good-looking finger, because it was pretty much destroyed.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drex Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 I'd say LT was the most feared of the two. One thing that stands out to me was his ability to tackle/bring down the defender with one arm and strip the football from them with the other, simultaneously. I've never seen a player do it with as much success as Taylor did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manichispanic Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 I remember seeing a Jurgenson interview about celebrations and he said during a game with the bears, he was in the redzone and threw a TD pass to one of his recievers and it was on Butkus. The reciever jumped up happily and spiked the ball. Butkus got mad then took the guy out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halter91 Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 They were both terrors, LT had the chance to make more plays being a Linebacker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Originally posted by Oldskool Both were monsters in their own positions. You cant compare them to one another. Both were awesome to see play. I agree with Oldskool on this one, they each played their own position, (which is difficult to make a fair comparison to), becoming a legend in the making, setting the bar for each position to be played for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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