Burgold Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I have always admired objectivity and the ability to criticize fairly. In this thread I would like those who don't support Bush to list what they do like about the man as President. What has he achieved or accomplished that you respect? What initiative has he sponsored that without question works? When has he been a good leader and a positive for this country? I'll start with this one. I admire Bush's steadfastness, his resoluteness. I believe that his work in building a coalition and taking on Afghanistan was brilliantly done. He rallied the country and did in months what the Soviet Union could not do in decades. I think that increasing the level of intercommunication between the Secret Service, FBI, and CIA is a good idea. Information should not be proprietary between these groups. Please in these threads, put no caveats, buts, or snyde remarks. If you perceive the man to be evil, a villian, or good, and a champion leave that to the side for the moment. No leader only does good, and none do only bad. I'll be curious to see how/if people respond and if this can be done honestly and not politically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbear Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I like that he has finally recognized our immigration policy as broken. I even think his proposal for temporary work visas is a good one. The work he did to get a coalition to go to Afganistan was also well done. I wtihold judgement on the department of homeland security because I don't know enough about it to know if it has indeed increased communication between agencies. I suspect those of us on the outside may never know. ON the surface though, it seems like a good idea. The wrok with getting Libia to peacefuly disarm also appears to be well done at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackC Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 sorry I've got nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webnarc Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Burgold - this is really hard if one is to remain objective. Bush is making Michael Moore look less and less radical as time goes on.:doh: Saddam is no longer in power, which is good, but how Bush went about it isn't. American relations with the UN and most of the world have never been so poor, so it's an almost certainty that moving forward, they will improve. The finger printing at points of entry, good idea. Air marshals and tighter airport security are good ideas. He's given a lot of ammo to comedians; Will Ferrell doing Bush at the Harvard convocation speech was one of the funniest things I've ever seen (http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28952&highlight=harvard). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I'll admit, I had to search some, but, He really seems to be a guy who's got a plan, and will stick with it. He doesn't shy away from setting high goals. (Man on the moon. Liberal (as in "civil liberties") democracy in the Mid East.) On the "other hand" side, (there's always another hand. In politics there're millions of 'em), he doesn't always seem willing to tell the people what his real objective is, (which isn't always a bad thing: I personally have some great ideas about how things ought to be done, and I'm absolutely certain that the majority of the people wouldn't support them when first proposed. That's all part of leadership.). I also observe that many of his lofty goals seem to produce results that are downright satanic. So much so that I'm often wondering if the satanic results were the real objective, and the lofty goals were simply the matador's cape. However, politics often produces undesirable results, and because politics is a co-operative effort, it's often imposible to determine blame. (I'm certain that this is deliberate.) Sometimes it seems he's a lot better at declaring lofty goals than he is at implimenting them. But that's not a bad thing, either. I still give Kennedy a lot of credit for Apollo, even if Johnson and Nixon actually oversaw the implementation, because the project wouldn't even have been started without Kennedy's speach. (And, I tend to think the President's primary job isn't in legislating, anyway: The power in the Federal government is supposed to be Congress. The President's job, and his power, is his ability to lead the people.) I guess, in short, it's refreshing to have a leader who actually has some positions. (Even though I suspect he's trying to decieve us about what they are.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted January 23, 2004 Author Share Posted January 23, 2004 It really is hard to do this with the "buts", isn't it? It was for me too. Keeping out that... while this seemed good, he also did... or should have... or the end result might be... Keep going though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I like the fact that parents are receiving more tax money back for their children. I have not benefited from this, but my brother and family have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancalagon the Black Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 No "if"s, "but"s, or "however"s: * Presenting a calm yet resolute face in the wake of September 11, and serving as an effective rallying point for Americans: in short, being a leader in a time of crisis * Successfully gaining international support for the conflict in Afghanistan * Once in Iraq, leading a swift military victory that minimized coalition casualties * Revamping immigration procedures * Refusing to absolutely kowtow to the far right on gay marriage and abortion * Improving his communication skills significantly since taking office Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackC Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 He dresses very sharply! That's all I could come up with today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Originally posted by Ancalagon the Black * Refusing to absolutely kowtow to the far right on gay marriage and abortion Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I can tell, the only thing the religous far right wants that hasn't been fully and instantly delivered is a Constitutional Ammendment that the majority of the voters oppose. And even then, he won't say he thinks it's wrong, only that he's not activly supporting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 He's spending the hell out of money, which should make you all happy. Unless you believe..............................he's not spending it on the "right" stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Just thought I'd crash the thread:nana: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggoDrill Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 I'm not a supporter ... but I also don't see anything that a Democrat or a smarter Republican (like his father) wouldn't have done as well or better. So, eff him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 A Democrat would maybe have attacked Afganistan.........MAYBE, and then only with UN approval. We certainly would not have gone to Baghdad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OaktonSkins/BushFan Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Originally posted by Sarge A Democrat would maybe have attacked Afganistan.........MAYBE, and then only with UN approval. We certainly would not have gone to Baghdad Yeah, Sarge, maybe Goreski would have followed Klinton's lame example and lobbed a few missiles over there. Or maybe not - afterall all those missiles might pollute the atmosphere. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancalagon the Black Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Originally posted by Larry And even then, he won't say he thinks it's wrong, only that he's not activly supporting it. Yeah, I was stretching with that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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