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Vince McMahon doesn't want his property (talent) to make money outside of the WWE

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7 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said:

Let’s say you work at a salon for a company and you attract a following by doing a good job and you have a Twitter following or whatever.... then you open up your own nail salon with a different name but marketing to the following you gained from working for the other company... so you really expect the other company to be fine with that.  Non competes should be in every high value contract so u would be shocked if the wwe didn’t have a non compete...

 

The wrestlers didn't start a rival company tho. They're just streaming their content on Twitch. Your hypothetical hairdresser scenario isn't whats happening here.

 

If anything its more ad revenue and a possible new audience for the wwe. 

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5 minutes ago, ShredSkins said:

Chris Jericho might disagree with this. 😉

 

AEW has to be loving this. 

 

Was he still under contract with the wwe? I know he's been involved in trying to get name trademarks like Y2J back. Not familiar with his ownership roles.

 

Jerico use Twitch to start his own promotion?  🙃

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14 minutes ago, clietas said:

 

The wrestlers didn't start a rival company tho. They're just streaming their content on Twitch. Your hypothetical hairdresser scenario isn't whats happening here.

 

If anything its more ad revenue and a possible new audience for the wwe. 


they are making money from their twitch appearances...

20 minutes ago, spjunkies said:

 

Their non-compete clauses are for other wrestling promotions which twitch clearly is not. The better comparison would be 20th Century Fox telling Selma Hayek she can't stream because she agreed to a 5 picture deal with them while having no anti-stream clause in the contract. 

It depends on what the contract says. Twitch and wwe are both entertainment....

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1 minute ago, clietas said:

 

Yeah from a social media account and following which the wrestlers built themselves. Wwe wasn't involved. Now Vince and his endless greed wants in. 

 

 


 

how can you say honestly that the wwe (who promotes them) wasn’t involved in their twitter following?  That is a ridiculous position...

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4 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said:


 

how can you say honestly that the wwe (who promotes them) wasn’t involved in their twitter following?  That is a ridiculous position...

 

Sony, Paramount, Universal. Fox, Disney, WB aren't suspending the social media accounts of their stars. Weird right?

 

These studios also aren't forcing their talent to sign new contracts with social media restrictions.

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1 minute ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said:


 

how can you say honestly that the wwe (who promotes them) wasn’t involved in their twitter following?  That is a ridiculous position...

 

Of course these people gained fame from the wwe, the point is all of this is independent from their wrestling personas.

 

These people get no health insurance, pay for their own gear and travel. Now the wwe wants to pretend they're actual employees so they can restrict them from getting a part time job that doesn't intrude on their wrestling duties?

 

 

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3 minutes ago, spjunkies said:

 

Of course these people gained fame from the wwe, the point is all of this is independent from their wrestling personas.

 

These people get no health insurance, pay for their own gear and travel. Now the wwe wants to pretend they're actual employees so they can restrict them from getting a part time job that doesn't intrude on their wrestling duties?

 

 

 

Exactly. Plus there is a lot of the actual human being in playing these characters. That was the whole damn point of the attitude era. The wwe didn’t come up with everything. Hell Vince has been out of creative ideas for like 30 years. 

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Just now, clietas said:

 

Exactly. Plus there is a lot of the actual human being in playing these characters. That was the whole damn point of the attitude era dammit. The wwe didn’t come up with everything. Hell Vince has been out of creative ideas for like 30 years. 

 

The main issue is Vince doesn't want anyone to get bigger than his "WWE Universe" so he's going to do what he can to restrict outside growth by talent, that's all this is.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said:


why do you feel this is relevant to what wwe chooses to do?

 

Because Vince isn't 100% responsible for the success of these characters. Major studios seemingly understand this. Actors play a large part in the actual characters. Its not all the writers, producers, and owner. Or in the case of the WWE Vincent Kennedy McMahon. 

 

Dwayne Johnson had major success as "The Rock". Well he wasn't the first "The Rock". Yet Dwayne got over like no other. Whys that ya think?

 

 

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A number of WWE stars announced they have publicly suspended their Twitch accounts in the wake of several talents trying to change WWE Head Vince McMahon's mind about the edict preventing talents from maintaining third-party relationships.

 

PWInsider.com is told that several talents recently met with McMahon in order to sit down with him to argue against the Twitch ban, but given that a number of high-profile talents, including AJ Styles, have announced they are suspending their Twitch streams overnight, it would not appear they were successful in swaying the WWE head.

 

The bigger issue at play here is that WWE is going to relaunch their Twitch presence in a major way and doesn't want anything that could run opposite of their strategy going forward. PWInsider.com confirmed several weeks ago with sources at Twitch that there are plans for a big push for WWE's own Twitch channel going forward, likely launching by the end of the year, if not sooner, which fits the timeline of WWE wanting to take over the Twitch accounts.

 

A number of WWE personalities have shut down other third-party relationships with outlets like Cameo and Pro Wrestling Tees due to WWE's edict several weeks ago.   Some WWE sources have pointed to the timing of new WWE President & Chief Revenue Officer Nick Khan, who came to the company from Hollywood powerhouse CAA in August, as likely being behind many of the recent changes, theorizing that Khan could be repositioning the company as an in-house management firm for all talents, resetting parameters so all third-party opportunities flow through WWE itself to maximize those opportunities.

 

 

https://www.pwinsider.com/article/140923/wwe-stars-begin-to-suspend-twitch-accounts-last-ditch-effort-to-change-vince-mcmahons-mind-apparently-fails.html?p=1

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