SlobberKnockinFootball Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 I can agree with that Wicked. I don't hate Snyder. I just think he needs to understand that this isn't working. Maybe there should be a change at the top? It hasn't worked since he started his GM career. Here's another mind boggling Redskin fact. Beathard wanted too much money...but we set the standard for coaching salaries at $5 mil a year for a person that hasn't even had one bit of success in the NFL. But we won't pay someone that has had success in the NFL? I'm confused????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlobberKnockinFootball Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Done deal Kilmer!!! :lmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 If I could make one change to the Redskins, it would be to have a better owner. Sure, Snyder tries to spend his money on the team. But he also cuts the coach's authority. This team will not win until Snyder backs off and stops creating a problem for the coach, regardless as to who the coach is. How can you truly judge Spurrier as a coach. He can't cut players he doesn't want, he can't have the players that he wants on his roster, Snyder allows the players to run to him when they are sad... boo hoo. Snyder sucks as an owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xanathos19 Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Who's starting the Ron Wolf for GM petition here in DC? I'm signing twice!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. D Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 please. Snyder did offer the job. Remember that Spurrier was offered 5mil and the offer on the table for Bobby was 500,000. AND there was the undertone of not allowing the man to do his job anyway. With Wolf he wanted a piece of the team. In my mind he did that to ensure he would have a say so and not be undercut by a meddling snyder. the point is moot. carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 The only thing I would have done differently was wear a bag. For all the money the danny has spent since he bought the team. look where it has gotten us. Go away danny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsbennett Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Originally posted by OURYEAR#56 Did you guys see this bullsh*t sign one of the Redskins faithful put up for the world to see. I was mad that fox kept showing the sign. Are the redskins the only team in the league that has a losing record? If not then why the hell are we riding the sh*t out of this guy. Atleast he's investing all the hard earned money he gets from ticket revenue in the product that counts the most....the team. What a bunch of miserable ****s. No, other teams have losing records. No other team acted so brass and arrogant as Snyder and Supperior before the beginning of the season. Snyder is getting the sh@t ridden out of him because he has asked for it. And with regard to 'HARD EARNED MONEY'......well, I don't know where Snyder got his.....working, the lucky sperm club, I don't know, but his millions, make that billions, of investment dollars has purchased a losing team.....The only the thing miserable about Danny boys treatment is the way he EARNED his treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Originally posted by Dr. D please. Snyder did offer the job. It is obvious he didn't offer enough and may have said he still wanted some controll. He has the money, give up some of the ownership and it will be worth it. Stay out of the football decisions if you don't have a clue what you are doing :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. D Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 AMEN jbooma! ironic to overpay EVRYONE else...and then play it differently with the "top" man. he only played lip service... seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarhog Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Originally posted by jbooma He is also putting a lot in his pocket. If he cared about the team then he would hire someone that knew something about football to run it. All Snyder cares about his the bottom line, don't think differently. At this point, I think fans have the right to say/write anything they want. Snyder's a big boy. He can take it. He's at least partially responsible for the product on the field for the past 10 years. However, anyone who says he is not equally pained by whats happening on the field (whether he's turning a profit or not) just isn't being honest. He's as big a Redskins fan as anyone here. Its written all over his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awesome Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 I thought it was hilarious. There need to be more signs like that to let Danny know how disgruntled we are with him. What else will make him hire a GM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. D Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 His fanatacism pales in comparision to his need to strokke his own ego. It takes not a brain surgeon to figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highway66 Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 The sign was great and fitting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A11214-2002Jan7?language=printer http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/news/2002/01/23/redskins_mendes_ap/ http://www.tflreport.com/content/flash01/flash/00update.cfm?UID=1818 http://www.nctimes.net/news/2002/20020116/55225.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A11214-2002Jan7?language=printer http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/peter_king/news/2002/01/23/wednesday_notebook/ http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/news/2002/01/07/redskins_schottenheimer_ap/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OURYEAR#56 Posted December 1, 2003 Author Share Posted December 1, 2003 If we want a GM then let's make a sign for it. But the "Trade Snyder Sign" really got to me. The man puts his heart and soul into trying to make us a winning team. He's even gone against the conventional methods of other NFL owners, and sacrificed a part of his own money to bring in a winning prioduct. All those huge signing bonuses comes out of his pocket. It's a risk paying Sanders, Smith, etc. If they don't pan out, then he's sh*t out of luck. If these players do live up to expectations then we love Dan Snyder. What a bunch of miserable mutha f*ckers. The man is doing everything in his power to help us win. In the last three games we have outgained our opponents, only to give up the lead in the forth quarter of each game. That's not Danny's fault. I think the poeple that dislike Danny have to understand that he's learning. Honestly I think we should celebrate Dan Snyder. He's a regular joe like the rest of us, that was smart enough to know when to sell his stocks in the company he built from the ground up. Dan Snyder is the embodiment of the American Dream. i love the fact he's a fighter that got knocked down, and know is owner of a team that is becoming "the story" of the NFL. I know we will always have a chance to succeed with Dan at the helm. How can you blame him for the Redskins short coming for the last ten years. Those who blame Dan for our troubles as a franchise are way off. Like I said we need NEW FANS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. D Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 point of FACT he is NOT doing everything "in his power" lets be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 I agree OURYEAR...well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 I remember that Beathard bailed on overtures from Snyder because he was appalled at how shabbily he was treated, and I remember it really firmed up in my mind how much Snyder's hubris was going to hurt this team for a long time. Snyder is like the late great Jack Kent Cooke in many ways. Like JKC he's got scads of money and is willing to spend it. Like JKC he truly wants to win, IMO. And like JKC he's a flaming assh*le with an ego the size of Montana. The way they differ though - Jack Kent Cooke didn't let his ego and arrogance get in the way of winning. Danny hasn't learned that trick yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlobberKnockinFootball Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Originally posted by OURYEAR#56 If we want a GM then let's make a sign for it. But the "Trade Snyder Sign" really got to me. The man puts his heart and soul into trying to make us a winning team. He's even gone against the conventional methods of other NFL owners, and sacrificed a part of his own money to bring in a winning prioduct. All those huge signing bonuses comes out of his pocket. It's a risk paying Sanders, Smith, etc. If they don't pan out, then he's sh*t out of luck. If these players do live up to expectations then we love Dan Snyder. What a bunch of miserable mutha f*ckers. The man is doing everything in his power to help us win. In the last three games we have outgained our opponents, only to give up the lead in the forth quarter of each game. That's not Danny's fault. I think the poeple that dislike Danny have to understand that he's learning. Honestly I think we should celebrate Dan Snyder. He's a regular joe like the rest of us, that was smart enough to know when to sell his stocks in the company he built from the ground up. Dan Snyder is the embodiment of the American Dream. i love the fact he's a fighter that got knocked down, and know is owner of a team that is becoming "the story" of the NFL. I know we will always have a chance to succeed with Dan at the helm. How can you blame him for the Redskins short coming for the last ten years. Those who blame Dan for our troubles as a franchise are way off. Like I said we need NEW FANS. Can you relinquish your lips from his jock now? Thank you! :laugh: This is just a joke for the people that don't have a sense of humor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panel Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Originally posted by jbooma He is also putting a lot in his pocket. If he cared about the team then he would hire someone that knew something about football to run it. All Snyder cares about his the bottom line, don't think differently. Has he put the 800+ million in addition to payroles and maintainince cost in his pocket? I doubt it, and he still is forkin $ out to keep this team up.What do you want him to do, spend more? Or just be the owner who decides to spend the most, but charge the least? Come on, that doesn't make sence. And don't blame a loosing season on an owner who is tryin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief skin Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 SNYDER and his way of running this organization STINKS!!!! he has taken a once proud franchise and run it into the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlobberKnockinFootball Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 OK, Kilmer I only found one of those articles that said anything about them offering Beathard a job. Shocker...Snyder pissed him off in the 11th hour. So why don't you get me a Dan Snyder pic for my signature that you like and I'll add it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsanity56 Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 yes snyder went after beathard & wolf as GM,but how seriously we'll never know..i have a feeling they were PR moves more than anything..if you wanted/needed a GM & you have the money,how could you NOT end up with wolf...2words-- power struggle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Om Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Hey Kilmer, maybe you can answer the question I've posed at least 5 times now, and nobody has yet to even take a stab at. When Snyder hired Spurrier, it was with the clear and stated intention of hiring a GM as well, to help ease his transition to the NFL. I've previously posted a WP article from the time that supports that ... and could probably come up with a long laundry list of similar ones if pressed. So ... let's for a moment just assume that Snyder's "offers" to Wolf and Beathard were really and truly his best, most sincere offer, and that those two unreasonable gentlemen just simply didn't see it that way so Dan had to back off in the best interests of his team. And let's say Snyder is in "the right" on those two guys. So ... what's happened since? That was a year and a half ago. Are Wolf and Beathard the only two guys qualified for the job? At some point, Snyder decided that he'd changed his mind about hiring a GM -- in contravention of what he apparentlyl had told Spurrier -- and in the year and a half since his flirtations with Wolf and Beathard, there has been not an official peep from the organization that that is even a possibility any more. Instead ... they've extended Cerrato's contract. So I ask, one more time ... what happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Originally posted by panel What do you want him to do, spend more? Or just be the owner who decides to spend the most, but charge the least? Come on, that doesn't make sence. And don't blame a loosing season on an owner who is tryin. He is trying to hard, and is letting his emotions get in the way which is the first rule you don't let happen in business. Then how do you explain the letter he has sent to everyone on the waiting list asking for money for a deposit when there are no available seats?? He is trying to suck more money from us and why should we pay?? He has not given us anything worth paying for right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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