JMS Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I was just looking at an interesting chart. comparing the 2004 race between incumbent Bush Jr. and challenger Kerry with our current race. What I found interesting was by this time in the 2004 race the lead had changed 4 times with two more lead changes coming in the final months. So far in 2012, Obama not given up the lead to Romney once yet... Also that it looks based upon the graphs that folks started really making up their minds first few days of Sept in 2004; as that's where Bush really outdistanced Kerry. So Historically speaking... it doesn't look like Obama's doing all that poorly, relative to Bush 2004. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/obama_vs_romney_compared_to_bush_vs_kerry.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 How dare you look at history and actual facts! Unsubstantiated rhetoric and cable news ratings demand that we continue calling this horse race a virtual tie! Interesting looks like something happened in mid August going over into September to change the race. Unemployment report on September 3? The unemployment rate dipped to 5.4 from 5.5 percent in July, mainly due to a decline in the labor force, bringing the rate to its lowest since September 2001. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I'd be stunned if Romney won. I'd be even more stunned if any changed for the better when either one wins. Same old policies same old garbage results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grhqofb5 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll Looks like Romney has taken the lead... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted August 14, 2012 Author Share Posted August 14, 2012 http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_pollLooks like Romney has taken the lead... Perhaps.. but that's just one poll. Of the 7 polls done in the last 6 days. Six have Obama up with a range of 1-9% (*).. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html It's unclear if Rasmussen Tracking Poll reflects a new Ryan bump, or is just an outlier. (*) 9% was Fox's Poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPinstripe Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Either way they both suck. Nothing is going to change. Democrat, Republican, not a big difference between them these days. Both options suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grhqofb5 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Perhaps.. but that's just one poll. Of the 7 polls done in the last 6 days. Six have Obama up with a range of 1-9% (*)..http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html It's unclear if Rasmussen Tracking Poll reflects a new Ryan bump, or is just an outlier. (*) 9% was Fox's Poll. I think the article says it reflects a Ryan bump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAbrendan Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 In 2004, at least the muckracking was somewhat clever. As I was driving to work, I saw a huge electronic banner sponsored by the Republican committee that read, "Obama supports gay marriage and abortion. Do you?" I'm thinking...uhhh, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USS Redskins Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 It is very interesting.. 2004 & 2012 both had incompetent incumbents with a less than inspiring, very wealthy challenger.... probably will end up with the same result, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 It is very interesting.. 2004 & 2012 both had incompetent incumbents with a less than inspiring, very wealthy challenger....probably will end up with the same result, too. I was thinking the same thing. I'm a democrat and voted for Obama in 2008. He hasn't been terrible, but he also hasn't been anything special. I think he could lose if he had the right challenger. I just don't think Romney is the right one though. Pretty much how I felt in 2004 with Bush/Kerry. Bush was primed to lose, but Kerry wasn't going to be the one to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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