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After witnessing another poor performance from the Skins yesterday against San Fran, there was the same old talk we've heard over the past few years. To be honest, you'd have an easier time identifying who on the roster is worth keeping over who's should be cut. That's how thin the Washington Redskins are when it comes to top NFL talent at most positions. OLB seems set with Orakpo and Kerrigan. After that....who is a long term solution anywhere? Fred Davis? Maybe. Roy Helu? After one up and down game....I have no idea. The whole secondary is suspect, and that includes DeAngelo Hall and Laron Landry who are all bark and no bite.

I don't know what kind of plan Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan have for the long haul. So, all I can do is say where I'd start in what has become a long rebuilding process to undo a decade of fail Snyderatto roster moves.

Where would I start?

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The Offensive Line

An offense with a top OL in the NFL will be able to protect a less than elite QB which less tha neleite WR's get open and create running lanes for a less than elite RB to gain yards. I'm not saying that you don't want to upgrade those other positions also, but the priority beyond drafting a QB in the 1st round next year needs to be drafting OL and adding solid blue collar depth guys for just about every position along the line. Here is a quick breakdown of the linemen currently on the roster.

C/G - Erik Cook - 24 years old - He was a 7th round pick two years ago who I have to guess would still be on the practice squad if there was better depth on the roster.

C/G - Will Montgomery - 28 years old - A local product from the VT program, the coaching staff liked his potential. He was a 7th round pick in 2006 by Carolina.

G- Chris Chester - 28 years old - He struggled early in camp, but seems to have calmed down. Maybe he's a long term fit. Probably a backup with a better OL. However, 20mil for a 5 year deal on a guy who was projected as a backup in Baltimore might have some wondering what gives. Apparently he is what Shanny looks for in the zone blocking scheme. That's fine.....maybe he's a guy who survives a few years here.

G - Maurice Hurt - 24 years old - I imagine when the Skins took him with a 7th round pick this year, they expected him to get a year on the practice squad and then if he improved enough to make the team in '12, to be a backup who didn't see the field. I don't know what playing now will do for him, but they simply don't have a choice.

T/G - Sean Locklear - 30 Years old - When he had to come in and play LT this year, he's been awful. No wonder he was available. He's already 30 years old and I can't imagine the value of bringing him back unless there isn't a single OL in the draft or free agency to get.

T - Trent Williams - Quickly headed towards "Bust" status if he doesn't get his head on straight. Either he's hurt or he's making mistakes that cost either 5 or 15 yards. TWICE this year he's screwed the team with stupid emotional plays. When he's healthy, he's still average at best.

T - Jamal Brown - 30 years old - Out of the trades before the 2010 season that brought us McNabb and Brown......Brown might still be the one worth doing.....I said MIGHT. He just signed a 5 year $27.5mil deal with $8mil in bonus cash. Difference with him is that he was a 1st round pick just 6 years ago and performed at a high level in New Orleans before getting hurt. At this point with him like Trent, you just ride out their deals and play them at tackle until something better comes along.

T - Willie Smith - 24 years old - An UDFA this past year, Smith clearly was a guy they wanted to stash on the practice squad to see if he had some future value. Maybe he does.

C/G - Kory Lichtensteiger - 26 years old - Originally a 4th round pick by the Broncos in 2008, Kory was showing something before his injury this year. Its probably safe to say that if he ever gets back to 100%, it won't be until the 2013 season and by then we'll have to fill that spot full-time.

G- Eric Olsen - A practice squad guy I know nothing about.

While I do want a QB taken with our 1st round pick next year, a special focus needs to be put on building a top 5 OL with depth at every position. If this means scouts who are just out there looking for OL around the country, so be it. Its no secret that a solid OL that help the rest of an offense develop more effectively.

So, who are the top potential OL who could free agents after the 2011 season? Courtesy of NFLsFuture.com

The Offensive Linemen

Carl Nicks, OG, New Orleans Saints

Carl Nicks is one of the premier guards in the league. It’s very possible that the Saints won’t be able to pony up the money necessary to keep him given the money they gave G Jahri Evans last offseason. The Saints would have two of the highest paid guards in league on the same team. If Nicks hits the open market plenty of teams will be lining up to pay him a king’s ransom.

Demetrius Bell, OT, Buffalo Bills

Buffalo has scoured the NFL to find a LT since trading Jason Peters to the Eagles. Demetrius Bell has emerged into a very good, young LT. The problem for the Bills will be dishing out big contracts to Ryan Fitzpatrick (done), Stevie Johnson, and Bell. It will be tough for the Bills to get all three under contract but they have to find a way to ink the 27-year old LT.

Ben Grubbs, OG, Baltimore Ravens

Grubbs may get a contract sooner rather than later from the Ravens. After inking Marshal Yanda last offseason, Ozzie Newsome will look to keep the core of this unit intact. I don’t see a chance Grubbs leaves Baltimore.

Chris Myers, OC, Houston Texans

Myers has found a perfect fit in Houston and has been a standout. In all likelihood, he will stay in Houston but could find more money elsewhere. The Texans can’t afford to disrupt the continuity of this offensive line for the protection of Matt Schaub and Arian Foster. About a 10% chance Myers isn’t back in Houston.

Scott Wells, OC, Green Bay Packers

Much like Myers in Houston, Wells has found the perfect system to fit his style of play. In reality, Wells isn’t nearly as valuable to any other team than the Packers and stays in Green Bay.

Levi Brown, OT, Arizona Cardinals

Levi Brown needs to move to the right side. He is not a starting caliber LT in the league. Arizona’s OL is among the worse in the NFL but Brown is playing out of position. He could be a good RT in Arizona or elsewhere. The Cards probably re-sign him because he’s the best option with the hopes of getting a LT in the draft. Brown shouldn’t command much money given his limited ability to play the right side.

Jeff Saturday, OC, Indianapolis Colts

The Colts have to re-sign Jeff Saturday. Saturday and the Colts are synanomous at this point and he needs to protect Peyton Manning for one last run. Saturday probably won’t command many years or much money on the open market so it makes sense that he stays in Indy.

Nick Hardwick, OC, San Diego Chargers

Hardwick has lost a step but still brings enough to be considered a solid center option. Hardwick could be lost in the shuffle in San Diego as they attempt to re-sign bigger priorities. Hardwick will be a nice, rather inexpensive option for a team in need of a veteran center. Chicago could come calling very early on in free agency.

Best of the Rest

Nate Livings, OG, Cincinnati Bengals

Jeremy Zuttah, OG, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Todd McClure, OC, Atlanta Falcons

Khalif Barnes, OT, Oakland Raiders

Roberto Garza, OG, Chicago Bears

Barry Richardson, OT, Kansas City Chiefs

John Sullivan, OC, Minnesota Vikings

Jacob Bell, OG, St. Louis Rams

Trai Essex, OG, Pittsburgh Steelers

Jake Scott, OG, Tennessee Titans

Adam Snyder, OT, San Francisco 49ers

Dan Koppen, OC, New England Patriots

And potential rookies coming in the draft?

From Walterfootball.com, here are the top 10 ranked Tackles, Guards and Centers.

TACKLES

  1. USC_logo.gif Matt Kalil*, OT, USC
    Height: 6-7. Weight: 295.
    Projected 40 Time: 5.01.
    Projected Round (2012): Top 5 Pick.
    10/28/11: Kalil is putting together an excellent season for USC. He has done a fabulous job of protecting Matt Barkley's blind side. Kalil hasn't really gone against an elite pass rusher, but has shutdown everybody he's gone against. On the ground Kalil has been a strong run blocker. He has done nothing but solidify his stock at the top of the first round.
    8/20/11: Matt Kalil is a top-flight left tackle prospect. His quality play kept Tyron Smith on the right side last year. Kalil did an excellent job of protecting Matt Barkley in 2010 and looks poised to build on that success in 2011. Kalil has strong blood lines with his father and brother making it into the league. He looks like a very safe pick, and a player that won't get out of the top five. Kalil is a specimen that should only get stronger as he ages in an NFL strength and conditioning program. He is technically sound, and ready for the NFL.
  2. Stanford_logo.gif Jonathan Martin*, OT, Stanford
    Height: 6-6. Weight: 305.
    Projected 40 Time: 5.18.
    Projected Round (2012): Top 10 Pick.
    10/28/11: Martin is playing extremely well. He has been a shutdown blocker in protecting Andrew Luck's blind side. Luck has had great pass protection all season. Martin has been a tenacious run blocker. Stanford ran behind him throughout their blowout of Washington. The Cardinal totaled 446 yards on the ground. Martin sets the edge well and is a good athlete to hit blocks on the second level. He had some penalty problems earlier in the season, but seems to have cleared that up. Martin is a better run-blocking franchise left tackle prospect than many former high first-rounders.
    8/20/11: Jonathan Martin has been an excellent player at Stanford. He dominated the PAC-10 last season as a run blocker and pass protector for Andrew Luck. Martin has the pass-protection tools to be a Pro Bowl tackle. Don't be surprised if he puts up a fight to be the first tackle taken. Martin was an All-Pac-10 first-team selection. He's a top-10 prospect.
  3. Iowa_logo.gif Riley Reiff*, OT, Iowa
    Height: 6-6. Weight: 300.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.98.
    Projected Round (2012): Top 20 Pick.
    10/28/11: Reiff has been a solid run blocker and pass blocker this season. He saw his only quality test of the season so far against Pittsburgh and defensive end Brandon Lindsey. Reiff had a very good game against Lindsey, containing him on almost every play that they were matched up. In the game, Reiff allowed a sack by Aaron Randle, but that could have been a result of a miscommunication with his guard. Otherwise, Reiff has been consistently good this season.
    8/20/11: Riley Reiff is a strong and athletic left tackle. He is a good downhill run blocker and has good technique as a pass blocker. Reiff has good feet and mirrors defensive ends well as they try to get upfield. He played very well in 2010, and had the added preparation of battling former teammate and current Buccaneer Adrian Clayborn in practice. Reiff was an All-Big Ten second-team selection last year. Right now, he looks like a lock to be a first-round pick with the potential to go highly if he has a dominant 2011 season.
  4. Alabama_logo.gif Barrett Jones*, T/G, Alabama
    Height: 6-5. Weight: 311.
    Projected 40 Time: 5.19.
    Projected Round (2012): 1-2.
    10/28/11: Jones moved to left tackle this season after playing guard the previous two years. His transisition has been flawless. He has done a fabulous job of run blocking for Trent Richardson, and has been equally good in pass protection. Jones is an intelligent player who has the physical tools to be effective. If he plays well against LSU and other tough teams late this season, he could prove to be a legitimate first-round left tackle prospect for the NFL.
    8/20/11: Barrett Jones has been a leader in Alabama's strong ground game. He has helped pave the way for Mark Ingram and Trent Richardson the past two seasons. Jones started 14 games in 2009 as a redshirt freshman and Ingram ran his way to a Heisman. Jones stayed at right guard and started 11 games there in 2010. He was named as a first-team All-SEC selection last season. He works well with center William Vlachos, and they could provide some great holes for Richardson in 2011. As a result, Jones stock has the potential to rise.
  5. Alabama_logo.gif D.J. Fluker**, OT, Alabama
    Height: 6-6. Weight: 335.
    Projected 40 Time: 5.10.
    Projected Round (2012): 1-2.
    10/28/11: Fluker has been a force at right tackle for Alabama. He has been a strong run blocker paving the way for Trent Richardson. If Barrett Jones leaves for the NFL, it will be interesting to see if Fluker moves to left tackle next season. Fluker looks like he could be a quick starter at right tackle, and is natural at the position.
    8/20/11: D.J. Fluker is a big-time tackle prospect who was a dominant force in the SEC last year. He's athletic as a pass protector, and a bulldozer as a run blocker. Fluker may hold off on declaring for the draft even though he will be eligible. This is only his sophomore season, and if Fluker returns, he could be the one of the top tackles in the 2013 draft class. Most of the time, Nick Saban works his players hard for them to stay in school.
  6. OhioState_logo.gif Mike Adams, OT, Ohio State
    Height: 6-8. Weight: 320.
    Projected 40 Time: 5.12.
    Projected Round (2012): 2.
    10/28/11: Adams has played reasonably well since returning from his suspension. Ohio State's offense became much better when they got Adams back. He still has some issues with speed rushers. Illinois speed rushing end Whitney Mercilus torched Adams for 1.5 sacks and a forced fumble. He struggles with speed rushers in pass protection, but does well against them in run blocking. That confirms that Adams should move to right tackle in the NFL.
    8/20/11: Mike Adams broke into the lineup as a sophomore and became a first-team Big Ten standout as a junior. He is a powerful run blocker who could be a better fit as a right tackle at the pro level. Smaller speed rushers can give Adams some problems in pass protection, but they are easy wins for him in run blocking. Therefore, right tackle may be his best spot in the NFL as he won't have to go up against as many speed rushers to match up with there. Adams will be suspended the first five games of the season, and previously was suspended the first two games of the 2010 season. The off-the-field issues could make it hard for him to go in the first round.
  7. BoiseState_logo.gif Nate Potter, OT, Boise State
    Height: 6-6. Weight: 300.
    Projected 40 Time: 5.14.
    Projected Round (2012): 2.
    10/28/11: Potter is having an excellent season. He does not have elite physical talent, and that pushes him into second round. Potter is one of the few left tackle options who looks available after the first round. He had a strong debut against Georgia, the best team Boise State has faced this season. Potter constantly gave quarterback Kellen Moore ample time to throw the ball plus was effective as run blocker. Even though Potter is not a heavy tackle, he showed the strength to anchor against bull rushes. Potter was slow to react to pick up a zone stunt on one play, but he showed the ability to recover. With his quality performance, Potter is proving that he can stay at left tackle in the NFL and won't have to move to the right side.
    8/20/11: The Broncos standout Nate Potter enters the season as the pass protector for a prolific college quarterback in Kellen Moore. Potter has good feet and is quick. He is able to get to the second level of the defense and pull well to hit defenders on the run. For the NFL, it would be helpful for Potter to add some strength. That would allow him to keep a hold on defenders rather than them being able to disengage from his blocks, an issue he needs to improve on.
  8. BYU_logo.gif Matt Reynolds, OT, BYU
    Height: 6-6. Weight: 325.
    Projected 40 Time: 5.20.
    Projected Round (2011): 2-3.
    10/28/11: Reynolds had a dominant performance against Ole Miss to start the season. Reynolds was blocking his man through the whistle and shut down every defensive end he faced. Against Texas, Reynolds was not as dominant but still had a quality game. Right now, he is a better pass blocker than run blocker. While bull rushes were completely ineffective against Reynolds, he also showed the quick feet to drop back and mirror defenders on speed rushes.
    8/20/11: Matt Reynolds has had a fantastic career at BYU. He almost entered the 2011 NFL Draft, but decided to return for his senior year. Reynolds has gotten into better shape by converting some fat into muscle. He's a tough run blocker who has been developing his pass blocking. The athletic Reynolds is well-coached. BYU offensive line coach Mark Weber developed Logan Makins at Fresno State, and he speaks of Reynolds as being a comparable prospect to Mankins. A major drawback to Reynolds is that he will be a 25 year-old rookie. However, Eagles rookie guard Danny Watkins is 27 and Falcons defensive tackle Peria Jerry was 24 as a rookie, and they both were first-rounders. Thus, the age issue shouldn't hurt Reynolds too much.
  9. Wisconsin_logo.gif Ricky Wagner*, OT, Wisconsin
    Height: 6-6. Weight: 320.
    Projected 40 Time: 5.20.
    Projected Round (2012): 2-3.
    10/28/11: Wagner has been dominant in many games this season. He has opened up a lot of holes for running backs Montee Ball and James White, while preventing pressure on quarterback Russell Wilson. Wagner played well against Wisconsin's better opponents like Nebraska and Michigan State. If Wagner stays in school, he could be one of the better senior tackles in the nation. It would be surprising if he entered the draft early.
    8/20/11: Ricky Wagner started 10 games for the Badgers at right tackle in 2010. This year, he'll move over to left tackle to replace Gabe Carimi. Wagner is an excellent run blocker. He is powerful and can drive defenders off the line of scrimmage. Wagner will need to develop his pass blocking, but he looks like the next in line of quality Wisconsin left tackles. Wagner was named an All-Big Ten honorable mention last season.
  10. OklahomaState_logo.gif Levy Ad****, OT, Oklahoma State
    Height: 6-5. Weight: 318.
    Projected 40 Time: 5.14.
    Projected Round (2012): 2-3.
    10/28/11: Injuries have forced Ad**** to flip back and forth between left tackle and right tackle this season. He has given up some pressure and sacks this season. Ad**** looks like a bit of a plodder with heavy feet. Against speed rushers, he is often reaching after them, and does not have the quickness to shuffle and mirror. Ad**** should be at right tackle or possibly guard at the next level.
    8/20/11: Levy Ad**** replaced departed tackle Russell Okung and the Oklahoma State offense didn't miss a beat. Ad**** showed the ability to be a good pass protector in 2010, and he also is a physical run blocker. Last year, was the first year of significant playing time for him, so Ad**** should be even better in 2011 as he gains experience. Ad**** was an All-Big XII first-team member last season.

GUARDS

  1. Wisconsin_logo.gif Kevin Zeitler, G, Wisconsin
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 312.
    Projected 40 Time: 5.21.
    Projected Round (2012): 2.
    10/29/11: Zeitler has done a fabulous job paving the way for running backs Montee Ball and James White this season. Zeitler is strong at the point of attack and has no issues blasting open running lanes. He has more mobility and athletic ability than one might think. Zeitler does a good job of hitting blocks on the second level and in the open field on screen passes. He has also done an excellent job in pass protection for quarterback Russell Wilson. Zeitler has really helped his stock with a strong season.
    8/20/11: Kevin Zeitler was an All-Big Ten honorable mention last year. For the past two years, he has been the Badgers' starting right guard. If you aren't a road grader as a run blocker, then you aren't going to play for Wisconsin. Zeitler figures to be ready to provide another excellent year of tape in his run-blocking prowess. Montee Ball and James White could easily combine for 2,500 to 3,000 yards rushing this year. Zeitler is a weight-room standout at Wisconsin, so he already has developed an NFL body. Zeitler works well with starting center Peter Konz and they should not have a drop off in 2011.
  2. Georgia_logo.gif Cordy Glenn, G, Georgia
    Height: 6-5. Weight: 330.
    Projected 40 Time: 5.28.
    Projected Round (2012): 2.
    10/29/11: Others rate Glenn as high as the first round, but considering how he played against some of the top defenders he's faced this season, it is hard imagining him not going on the second day of the draft. In the first game of the season, Boise State's Billy Winn, Shea McClellin and the rest of Boise State's defensive line had their way with him as he allowed multiple hits on the quarterback. Glenn gave up a few sacks along with getting flagged multiple times. Against South Carolina, he played better but did get beat by a defender to help cause a defensive score. It looks like Glenn should consider dropping some weight to get more athletic and be a better pass protector. He is a wide body with some mobility who should move back inside for the NFL.
    8/20/11: Cordy Glenn broke into the starting lineup as a freshman in 2008 with 10 starts. In 2009, he started nine games between right and left guard. Glenn also started four games at left tackle due to injuries along the Georgia offensive line. Last year, he found a home and started 13 games at left guard. Glenn is a powerful run blocker who moves well and is solid pass protector. He is a massive linemen qho would fit well in a power man blocking scheme.
  3. Colorado_logo.gif Ryan Miller, G, Colorado
    Height: 6-8. Weight: 310.
    Projected 40 Time: 5.25.
    Projected Round (2012): 2-3.
    10/29/11: Miller is having a strong senior season with some impressive games. He's shown the ability to be a forceful run blocker. Miller is a very good athlete and has excellent quickness to fire out of his stance to get to the second level. He anchors well in pass rush and has the mobility to slide with defenders. Miller has the skill set to get some consideration at right tackle.
    8/20/11: Ryan Miller enters the season with a lot of preseason hype from the national media. He was an All-Big XII honorable mention in 2010 and a 12-game starter at right guard. In 2009, Miller started seven games at right guard and five games at right tackle due to injuries along the line. He is a powerful blocker who moves well for his size.
  4. TexasTech_logo.gif Lonnie Edwards, G, Texas Tech
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 322.
    Projected 40 Time: 5.16.
    Projected Round (2012): 3-4.
    10/29/11: Edwards has done a very good job this season and has shown a lot of improvements. He is a physical run blocker and a quality pass blocker. Texas Tech has put up big point totals on a weekly basis and Edwards has had a strong senior season.
    8/20/11: Lonnie Edwards enters his third season as a starter at left guard. He was named an All-Big XII second-team member last year. Edwards has some power to his game.
  5. SouthCarolina_logo.gif Rokevious Watkins, G/T, South Carolina
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 340.
    Projected 40 Time: 5.27.
    Projected Round (2012): 3-5.
    10/29/11: Watkins has had a quality season of run blocking for South Carolina and running back Marcus Lattimore. The Game****s have had a strong interior rushing attack and Watkins has helped pave the way. He is a stronger run blocker than pass protector.
    8/20/11: Rokevious Watkins had a breakout season in 2010. He played junior college for two years and redshirted one season at South Carolina before becoming the starter at right guard last season. Watkins was a powerful bulldozer leading the way for freshman sensation Marcus Lattimore. This year it sounds like South Carolina will move him to right tackle, but Watkins is probably better served at guard in the NFL.
  6. MichiganState_logo.gif Joel Foreman, G, Michigan State
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 310.
    Projected 40 Time: 5.30.
    Projected Round (2012): 3-5.
    10/29/11: Foreman has been solid, yet unspectacular for Michigan State this season. He is a quality run blocker and pass blocker. Foreman has good technique and is well-rounded but does not look like he has special physical tools.
    8/20/11: Over the past two seasons, Foreman has started 25 games at left guard for Michigan State. He is a strong run blocker who twice has been an all-conference honorable mention. Foreman has had some injury issues this spring, so he'll need to stay in the lineup to keep his draft stock stable. <a href='http://d.tradex.openx.com/ck.php?n=acc9b92e&cb=4137713' target='_blank'><img src='http://d.tradex.openx.com/avw.php?zoneid=4481&cb=4137713&n=acc9b92e' border='0' alt='' /></a>
  7. Pittsburgh_logo.gif Lucas Nix, G/OT, Pittsburgh
    Height: 6-6. Weight: 305.
    Projected 40 Time: 5.19.
    Projected Round (2012): 3-5.
    10/29/11: Nix was moved to left tackle and has played well this season, but he has missed multiple games with injuries. Nix should move back inside for the next level.
    8/20/11: Lucas Nix split time between right tackle and right guard over the past two seasons, but he is definitely a guard in the NFL. While Nix needs to add some bulk, run blocking is his strength, and he did a good job of opening up holes for Dion Lewis. Nix needs to work on his pass protection, and is better suited at guard.
  8. Miami_logo.gif Brandon Washington*, G/OT, Miami
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 320.
    Projected 40 Time: 5.21.
    Projected Round (2012): 4-5.
    10/29/11: After being an All-ACC pick last year at guard, Miami moved Washington to left tackle after Seantrel Henderson was injured. Washington has had a mixed outing at left tackle. He has done a decent job of run blocking for Miami running back Lamar Miller. Washington has a nice combination of power and mobility, but belongs on the inside. Head coach Al Golden was openly critical of Washington after he struggled against North Carolina and defensive end Quinton Coples. Washington took offense at the possibility that he could be benched and not get a starting spot at guard if Henderson replaced him at left tackle. Washington has some talent, and his situation at Miami looks murky. He may enter the draft just to escape the problems.
    8/17/10: Brandon Washington has the size and athleticism to be a starting guard in the NFL. He is a pretty good pass blocker and packs a nice punch as a run blocker. Washington plays with a mean streak and was twice named the ACC Offensive Lineman of the Week in his first year as a starter. He was an All-ACC first-team guard last season.

CENTERS

  1. Wisconsin_logo.gif Peter Konz*, C, Wisconsin
    Height: 6-5. Weight: 315.
    Projected 40 Time: 5.58.
    Projected Round (2012): 1.
    10/28/11: The junior Konz is compiling a stack of dominant tapes for NFL evaluators. He has been excellent this season. Konz has played elite players like Jerel Worthy and Jared Crick very well. The Badgers have had a fabulous running offense and Konz is an excellent run blocker. He seals holes well, gets to the second level, and puts defenders on the ground regularly. Konz has done a fabulous job in pass protection for quarterback Russell Wilson. His stock is on the rise. Not many centers enter the draft early. That goes for Wisconsin offensive linemen as well, so it would be somewhat surprising if he enters the 2012 draft.
    8/20/11: Peter Konz started 11 games in 2010 after starting nine games at center in 2009. He is a big, powerful blocker who has sound technique. Konz isn't the most mobile blocker, but Wisconsin has had a lot of production running behind him and up the middle of Big Ten defenses. Konz should have another year of that type of tape for NFL evaluators.
  2. OhioState_logo.gif Michael Brewster, C, Ohio State
    Height: 6-5. Weight: 293.
    Projected 40 Time: 5.08.
    Projected Round (2012): 1.
    10/28/11: Others rate Brewster on the second day of the draft, but the senior is a intelligent technician who rarely ever gets beat. He is an equally good run blocker and pass blocker. Brewster had an excellent game against Miami and defensive tackle Marcus Forston. Brewster had a fabulous game against Nebraska defensive tackles Jared Crick and Baker Steinkuhler. Brewster is very good at opening running lanes and preventing interior pass pressure. He is athletic and mobile. The knock on him is probably his smaller size and lack of bulk.
    8/20/11: Mike Brewster enters his senior year as the top center in the nation. He started as a freshman and has been a standout for the Buckeyes ever since. Brewster will be challenged with the turmoil at Ohio State. He will have to quickly get in tune with a new quarterback to take his snaps, and offensive tackle Mike Adams will be suspended for the first five games. Thus, some new challenges are in store for Brewster, but nothing that should hurt his draft stock. He is an excellent run blocker and pass protector. Brewster looks like the next center who could crack the top 25.
  3. Alabama_logo.gif William Vlachos, C, Alabama
    Height: 6-1. Weight: 294.
    Projected 40 Time: 5.13.
    Projected Round (2012): 2-3.
    10/28/11: Vlachos is putting together another strong season. He has led a strong interior running game for Alabama. Plus, Vlachos is doing a good job in pass protection for the Crimson Tide. He has helped himself with another strong season and looks like a solid pick who will be able to play quickly in the NFL.
    8/20/11: William Vlachos has been a two-year starter for the Crimson Tide, and in that time he has been a key factor in the Tide's strong ground game with running backs Mark Ingram and Trent Richardson. Vlachos is good at pulling and hitting blocks in space. He should have another solid season blocking for Richardson, and that should keep Vlachos in the second or third round.
  4. Georgia_logo.gif Ben Jones, C, Georgia
    Height: 6-3. Weight: 316.
    Projected 40 Time: 5.17.
    Projected Round (2012): 2-3.
    10/28/11: To start the season, Jones had a rough performance against Boise State and really struggled with defensive tackle Billy Winn. Jones (6-3, 316) allowed a sack and way too much pressure up the middle of the defense. Since then he has played better. Jones has been a solid run blocker and has improved his pass protection.
    8/20/11: Ben Jones broke into the starting lineup as a freshman and has locked down the position for Georgia. He had excellent seasons in 2010 and 2009 to establish himself as one of the top centers in the SEC. Jones is a very good pass blocker, and a strong run blocker. For teams that like bigger centers over the smaller more mobile types, he could be an option to add some bulk and be a power center in the NFL.
  5. Oklahoma_logo.gif Ben Habern, C, Oklahoma
    Height: 6-2. Weight: 291.
    Projected 40 Time: 5.28.
    Projected Round (2012): 3-4.
    10/28/11: Habern started the season strong with three good games for the Sooners. He broke his arm against Missouri and has missed the last four games. Habern is expected to be out another 2-4 weeks. The Oklahoma offense has really missed him.
    8/20/11: Ben Habern has been a two-year starter for Oklahoma. Smaller and athletic, he is a strong pass blocker. Habern works well with Landry Jones, and should have another strong season in 2011. Habern was an All-Big XII honorable mention last year.
  6. NorthernIllinois_logo.gif Scott Wedige, C, Northern Illinois
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 314.
    Projected 40 Time: 5.18.
    Projected Round (2012): 3-4.
    10/28/11: Wedige has done a good job of blocking for Chandler Harnish this season and has improved his draft stock.
    8/20/11: Scott Wedige had an excellent debut as the starting center last season. He was an All-MAC first-teamer in 2010. Wedige was a very good pass blocker last season and Northern Illinois allowed less than a sack per game.
  7. ArizonaState_logo.gif Garth Gerhart, C/G, Arizona State
    Height: 6-1. Weight: 305.
    Projected 40 Time: 5.25.
    Projected Round (2012): 4-5.
    10/28/11: Gerhart has played well for Arizona State this season and has improved his stock significantly. He is quick and athletic. That allows him to be effective when pulling. Gerhart also isn't afraid to get physical and fights through the whistle. He is a better run blocker than pass blocker. Gerhart needs to improve his awareness and get his head on swivel in pass protection.
    8/20/11: The younger brother of Toby Gerhart, Garth Gerhart found a home at center in 2010 and was an All-Pac-10 honorable mention. He started 12 games last season, after starting two at center in 2009 (and also started five 2009 games at right guard). Gerhart could be one of the better centers in the conference, but he needs a strong season to get drafted.
  8. OklahomaState_logo.gif Grant Garner, C, Oklahoma State
    Height: 6-3. Weight: 292.
    Projected 40 Time: 5.19.
    Projected Round (2012): 4-5.
    10/28/11: Garner is playing well this season. He has done a good job in run blocking and a superb job in keeping the pocket clean for quarterback Brandon Weeden. Garner has not faced a tough interior pass rusher yet.
    8/20/11: Grant Garner started every game at Oklahoma State last year in his first season as a starter. He did a good job blocking for quarterback Brandon Weeden and running back Kendall Hunter. Garner will need a strong season to solidify his draft status.
  9. Connecticut_logo.gif Moe Petrus, C/G, Connecticut
    Height: 6-2. Weight: 293.
    Projected 40 Time: 5.16.
    Projected Round (2012): 4-6.
    10/28/11: Petrus and the UConn offensive line have had some mixed outings. He had some good plays and also got beat some against Pittsburgh. Petrus needs to play more consistently.
    8/20/11: Moe Petrus started at left guard in 2008 before moving to the center position in 2009. He started at center the past two seasons and was an All-Big East second-team selection in 2010. Petrus has good mobility and quality strength. He helped pave the way for Jordan Todman to have a massive 2010 season.
  10. Northwestern_logo.gif Ben Burkett, C, Northwestern
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 290.
    Projected 40 Time: 5.15.
    Projected Round (2012): 4-6.
    10/28/11: Burkett has had some quality games this season for the Wildcats. He did not play well against Illinois.
    8/20/11: Ben Burkett has started all 39 games at center for Northwestern the past three seasons. He has had to add strength and size over his collegiate career and that will need to continue for the NFL. Burkett can pass block, but he will need that bulk to be an effective run blocker at the NFL level.

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My proposal (which obviously isn't needed or wanted by the Skins FO or any FO......or probably any messageboard) is that the Skins brain-trust sit down and set the goal for building the best offensive line the NFL has seen since the Hogs. This means finding the right blue collar lunchpale guys in free agency, drafting an OL in one of the top 3 rounds every year, and having the scouting power behind finding talent in the middle and later rounds of the draft. Every year needs to be looked at as if there will be a need for somebody to step up due to injury or age, and behind whoever steps into the starting role needs to be another player ready to take some snaps.

Sorry for the long post, its actually what I blogged today and wanted to share before the last bit of apathy sets in.

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I think one problem with the skins is they run time and time again the stretch run. When Hightower was in there, I don't think he's built for it. I also don't think our current roster of OL are adept at that either. It's like a few years ago where we expect square players to fit in round holes. It's not going to work.

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Redskins should sign:

Carl Nicks, Ben Grubbs or Chris Meyers

Meyers is most familiar with the ZBS, and thus, would start immediately. He's 30, so we'd have to draft a replacement for him in the 2013 or 2014 draft, but that should be a problem. Meyers can play Center or Guard, depending on if we want to keep Montgomery at center or not.

As for the draft, Levy Ad**** or Nate Potter if they slip to the first round. Any of the top 3 centers if they slip in to the second round AND if we have drafted a QB in the first round.

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I think one problem with the skins is they run time and time again the stretch run. When Hightower was in there, I don't think he's built for it. I also don't think our current roster of OL are adept at that either. It's like a few years ago where we expect square players to fit in round holes. It's not going to work.

I think we ran one shotgun delay run yesterday....that's it.

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I think we ran one shotgun delay run yesterday....that's it.

Maybe it's also time Beck gets returned to the college game and is forced to play out of shotgun every snap.

It's also going to be very difficult for a team to run the ball when they abandon it so quickly. 12 rushes against buffalo, 15 against Sf.

Shanny will be quick to abandon the run after a loss or a no-gain. But if you have beck tossing incompletes, that about the same result.

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I would disagree about Trent being quickly headed toward bust. Granted he makes his share of stupid mistakes, but he's an outstanding run blocker and has proven to be up to task in pass blocking, holding more than his own against probably the best pass rushing personnel any single division has to offer. He still has a lot of room for improvement, but he's definitely a good left tackle.

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I would disagree about Trent being quickly headed toward bust. Granted he makes his share of stupid mistakes, but he's an outstanding run blocker and has proven to be up to task in pass blocking, holding more than his own against probably the best pass rushing personnel any single division has to offer. He still has a lot of room for improvement, but he's definitely a good left tackle.

I did say "If he doesn't get his head on straight" to be fair.

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Trent has issues controling his emotions on the field, but I don't think that in any way makes him a bust. If anything we can see how much better they can protect with him in the game than otherwise. The line had nothing when Shanahan took over. Could they have signed more depth? Sure but for the most part I think they did a very decent job rebuilding this group in 2 offseasons (one of which was affected by rules for FA). Ideally, we can bring in a Tackle in the Rd 3-5 range who can develop and push Jamaal Brown on the right side. We may also need to address LG based on Kory's outlook coming off of surgery. Before that injury I felt very comfortable with the LT/ LG/ C spots at the starter level.

How did Hurt look yesterday? I haven't watched the game again but I didn't dear his name much which is always a good thing.

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Trent has issues controling his emotions on the field, but I don't think that in any way makes him a bust. If anything we can see how much better they can protect with him in the game than otherwise.

I was going to say the same thing.

IMO, the only issue with Williams is his temper on the field. It was very clear that our OL suffered without him in both the Eagles and Bills games.

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I agree on signing Nicks even though they will have to pony up big to get him and you'll hear the same old media haters saying the Skins are overpaying free agents again. Nicks is worth the money and since they traded for Brown they must have done alot of film work on the Saints O-Line and think their players will transition into this scheme. You can then hope that Mo Hurt, Wille Smith, or some future draft picks can develop into replacements for Chester and Brown who are stopgaps in my opinion. Montgomery apperas to be ok at Center and we can only hope Trent Williams can get his head outta his ass and develop into what we would expect the #4 overall pick to be.

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The avg. of the Georgia Bulldogs offensive line is heavier than any in the NFL. Just saw that a few weeks ago and thought it interesting. Seems Shanny goes for the light and quick though and that maybe part of the problem in the NFCE. Just like this weeks game against a line like the niners.

Besides the name Buford always brings Georgia to my mind. Great thread work.

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The avg. of the Georgia Bulldogs offensive line is heavier than any in the NFL. Just saw that a few weeks ago and thought it interesting. Seems Shanny goes for the light and quick though and that maybe part of the problem in the NFCE. Just like this weeks game against a line like the niners.

Besides the name Buford always brings Georgia to my mind. Great thread work.

I really don't think you need road graters in the NFCE. The Raiders have had some nasty defenses, yet the ZBS still worked for the Broncos against them year in and year out. You get the right guys in there and it's a thing of beauty. Holes aren't forced open in the ZBS, they occur naturally. The RB just needs to know where to look for them. The more time Helu gets on the field running it, the better he'll get. Especially when we get actual depth on the OL

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I really don't think you need road graters in the NFCE. The Raiders have had some nasty defenses, yet the ZBS still worked for the Broncos against them year in and year out. You get the right guys in there and it's a thing of beauty. Holes aren't forced open in the ZBS, they occur naturally. The RB just needs to know where to look for them. The more time Helu gets on the field running it, the better he'll get. Especially when we get actual depth on the OL

No we have the depth we dont have the talent. The problem I see with the OLine right now is all the depth is currently starting. 3-4 of the starters need to be replaced with better talent.

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No we have the depth we dont have the talent. The problem I see with the OLine right now is all the depth is currently starting. 3-4 of the starters need to be replaced with better talent.

The problem is how you get that talent...

if you sign a couple 30 year old FA's... then you'll have a cohesive line for 2-3 years until those guys start falling off and you need replacements again.

if you draft them all.. which is probably the best plan... you just have to deal with what we got until the draft picks start to develope and find starting roles.. and then roll off the old line into depth.. but a lot of them are 28-30 already.. so it won't be too long before they are gone and you have to draft more again.

but then you'd finally be in a good position. but you'd have to draft like 12 OLmen in 3-4 years worth of drafts.

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The problem is how you get that talent...

if you sign a couple 30 year old FA's... then you'll have a cohesive line for 2-3 years until those guys start falling off and you need replacements again.

if you draft them all.. which is probably the best plan... you just have to deal with what we got until the draft picks start to develope and find starting roles.. and then roll off the old line into depth.. but a lot of them are 28-30 already.. so it won't be too long before they are gone and you have to draft more again.

but then you'd finally be in a good position. but you'd have to draft like 12 OLmen in 3-4 years worth of drafts.

Im hoping we get Grubbs and draft Brewster out of Ohio state at the top of the second round.

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The team is in re-building mode, so a winning season would simply be an added bonus. Unlike the 49ers upon Harbaugh's arrival, the Skins weren't a talent-rich team when Shanahan arrived. The line can't be rebuilt in a season, so some patience is warranted. Having said that, I do believe that there is much room for improvement, not just in personnel, but also in how that personnel is being used. The team should draft a stud LT and move Trent Williams to his natural position at right tackle, where he is most effective. It wouldn't hurt to have a good O-line coach, either.

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I know Trent's career while healthy is still young. But has he dominated at his stop for 3 weeks in a row yet?

As far as talent and depth, I think we are lacking BOTH.

That's why there needs to be a policy in place about adding layers of OL both in the "read to start" and the "developing" stages. You can't count on an OL to stay healthy together for a season. Its almost like you need 7 or 8 starters on your active roster for those 5 spots.

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im not sure how many picks we have, but our draft needs to go qb, ol, ol, ol, ol, ol, ol

When I was looking at the roster, that's what I thought.

Then I thought how thin the secondary is...how we probably need two ILB's in the near future. Our WR's are thin too. Its all over.

But if I had to choose one position 1st......it would be rookie 1st round QB and then the best OL we can find for awhile.

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im not sure how many picks we have, but our draft needs to go qb, ol, ol, ol, ol, ol, ol

OMG no, If we skip corner again we are in trouble. Wilson and Hall can't be looked to for down the road, Barnes has sucked honestly and sadly. Buchanon is most likely done, Thompson? really, Cmon, FA must bring OL and corner and they must draft there as well. Let alone another inside LBer late round.

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