Skinzfever2010 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Great coaches make adjustments. Our offense can't score and our 3-4 isn't seasoned enough to hold up against the high powered offenses of today. Poor Brian Orakpo is starting to look lost as an OLB. Rocky is always a second to late to the ball. I don't think it would hurt making the switch if you wanted to help our offense out. If the defense can slow opposing teams down maybe our offense can find away to put up points. The question is would Shanny be ready to admit he is wrong and change? Hail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Walton Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Great coaches make adjustments. Our offense can't score and our 3-4 isn't seasoned enough to hold up against the high powered offenses of today. Poor Brian Orakpo is starting to look lost as an OLB. Rocky is always a second to late to the ball. I don't think it would hurt making the switch if you wanted to help our offense out. If the defense can slow opposing teams down maybe our offense can find away to put up points. The question is would Shanny be ready to admit he is wrong and change? Hail! We are in the 2nd year of swapping out the pieces of a 4-3 defense and you want to go back? The amount of crazy that goes on in this place after a loss is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinzfever2010 Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share Posted October 24, 2011 We are in the 2nd year of swapping out the pieces of a 4-3 defense and you want to go back? The amount of crazy that goes on in this place after a loss is awesome. Its about what works best for the team. With the recent injuries to an already sorry offense we need to be getting stops on D. We can't stop anybody and our offense can't score. What now? Give up? Don't try anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkfan63 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Will the 4-3 allow us to score more points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 No. That'd be a terrible idea. We've been drafting players for our 3-4, and our guys are starting to reach their comfort zone. This defense has shown flashes of absolute greatness. It's obvious though we need some more beef at the line, and an ILB that is more suited for the 3-4. Fletcher may be on his way out soon, and I'm not convinced Rocky is up to the task. Switching to a primary 4-3 would stunt this team's growth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinzfever2010 Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share Posted October 24, 2011 Will the 4-3 allow us to score more points? It may allow us to keep other teams from scoring to much. As a result, it puts our offense in a better position to keep up with the other team. It also puts some of our best players in the best positions for them to succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Wingman Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 dont we run variations of the 3-4 and 4-3 during a single game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss_Hogg Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 dont we run variations of the 3-4 and 4-3 during a single game? yes, there have been occasions where I've counted four down linemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Why would we do this? The short sightedness of the fan base is appaling. We aren't competing this year, nor next year for Superbowls. However the 3-4 is being put in place for the long run. 2 years from now this can be a very dominant unit. Patience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfan7224 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 dont we run variations of the 3-4 and 4-3 during a single game? Yes. The "3-4" issue is overblown. Because we lost people are desperately grasping at straws for anything. We win again, everyone will love the 3-4. It's rather pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve09ru Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Its about what works best for the team. With the recent injuries to an already sorry offense we need to be getting stops on D. We can't stop anybody and our offense can't score. What now? Give up? Don't try anything? The Defense is a top 5 in the league. No Matter the 3-4/4-3 , Doughty will continue to struggle as a FS (personally would like to see Landry switch back there and have Doughty at SS when Atogwe is out) Hall will continue to get burnt. Having Orakpo and Kerrigan standing up is much better considering we have 3 very solid Dlinemen in Cofield, Carricker and Bowen. Defense isn't the problem man. The Panthers had the ball for 10 more minutes than the skins did. They shut out a high-powered eagles offense in the 2nd half and contained the Panthers fairly well in the 1st half considering how much they were on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfan7224 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 yes, there have been occasions where I've counted four down linemen. Haslett has said it himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinzfever2010 Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share Posted October 24, 2011 Why would we do this? The short sightedness of the fan base is appaling.We aren't competing this year, nor next year for Superbowls. However the 3-4 is being put in place for the long run. 2 years from now this can be a very dominant unit. Patience Maybe we need to keep running variations until we get the players. I'm not for stunting the teams growth long term. However, if we finish 3-13 because we simply can't keep up the world will be calling for Shans head. His first two years will be worse than Coach Gibbs and Zorns.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Wingman Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 were only giving up less than 20ppg man. thats up there with the best in the league. the problem is offense. always has been always will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinzfever2010 Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share Posted October 24, 2011 were only giving up less than 20ppg man. thats up there with the best in the league. the problem is offense. always has been always will be I'm actually making the suggestion to help our sorry ass offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSHRedskins3ATLBraves3 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Why would we do this? The short sightedness of the fan base is appaling.We aren't competing this year, nor next year for Superbowls. However the 3-4 is being put in place for the long run. 2 years from now this can be a very dominant unit. Patience Seriously...why would we waste time and picks overhauling to go to a 3-4 and then overhaul back to a 4-3 when the 3-4 is having success? Some fans have absolutely no clue what is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Mike Shanahan is going to be here at least the 5 years of his initial contract. Mike Shanahan is the one who wanted to implement a base 34 D. So we've spent the last 22 months doing just that, and this past off-season adding better pieces to it. And you want to now rip that up, start over and go back to a 43 base? Folk need to calm down, accept results matter little this year, and be patient whilst this thing steadily grows. This D, vastly improved as it is already from year one but with still a ways to go, will be that much nearer the finished article next year with improved personnel again, and another years experience. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKIN4WAHOOZ Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Great coaches make adjustments. Our offense can't score and our 3-4 isn't seasoned enough to hold up against the high powered offenses of today. Poor Brian Orakpo is starting to look lost as an OLB. Rocky is always a second to late to the ball. I don't think it would hurt making the switch if you wanted to help our offense out. If the defense can slow opposing teams down maybe our offense can find away to put up points. The question is would Shanny be ready to admit he is wrong and change? Hail! What exactly is he wrong about? MODS, please come up with some kind of "New Thread IQ Test", that has to be passed before you can start a new thread. Im tired of losing my brain cells reading some of the stuff on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinzfever2010 Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share Posted October 24, 2011 Seriously...why would we waste time and picks overhauling to go to a 3-4 and then overhaul back to a 4-3 when the 3-4 is having success?Some fans have absolutely no clue what is going on. I really don't think the coaches do either. Two of the worst teams in the league got their second wins against our teams. I'm sorry but I think its an idea that should be discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrecker Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 No. That'd be a terrible idea. We've been drafting players for our 3-4, and our guys are starting to reach their comfort zone.. Actually this is 100% incorrect. We have been drafting and signing players fromn a 4-3 and trying to convert them to a 3-4. Orakpo Kerrigan Cofield McIntosh Jenkins All of these played 4-3. Could you see a front 4 of Kerrigan, Cofield, Bowen/Carriker/Jenkins, Orakpo? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phixius Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Yes, it is too late. The Redskins are already committed to 3-4 and all they can do now is build on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paloosa Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Great coaches make adjustments. Our offense can't score and our 3-4 isn't seasoned enough to hold up against the high powered offenses of today. Poor Brian Orakpo is starting to look lost as an OLB. Rocky is always a second to late to the ball. I don't think it would hurt making the switch if you wanted to help our offense out. If the defense can slow opposing teams down maybe our offense can find away to put up points. The question is would Shanny be ready to admit he is wrong and change? Hail! The problem wasn't the switch as much as who was coaching the defense. Has Haslett ever coached a 3-4 defense? If not he is the blind leqading the blind? Maybe that is why he has a lost look on his face. He is seriously getting outcoached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichmondRedskin88 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Mike Shanahan is going to be here at least the 5 years of his initial contract.Mike Shanahan is the one who wanted to implement a base 34 D. So we've spent the last 22 months doing just that, and this past off-season adding better pieces to it. And you want to now rip that up, start over and go back to a 43 base? Folk need to calm down, accept results matter little this year, and be patient whilst this thing steadily grows. This D, vastly improved as it is already from year one but with still a ways to go, will be that much nearer the finished article next year with improved personnel again, and another years experience. Hail. Whoa I thought Haslett was the one who wanted a 3-4. I don't remember Shanahan saying much about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins island connection Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 If anything, I'd like to see Haslett modify and create a hybrid 46 defense, being he is such the genius some claim he is. But with a 46, you must have players who will move, not stand flat-footed in the endzone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Whoa I thought Haslett was the one who wanted a 3-4. I don't remember Shanahan saying much about it. Shannhan was all about the 3-4, something he studied in his year off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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