88Comrade2000 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/08/bob-inglis-tea-party-casualty With voters like this, Obama doesn't have to worry about anything. It will be close but ultimately he will win. The Republican nominee will be as wacko as the supporters who will dominate the primary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 sounds more like an establishment hack lost his bid for reelection and is now experiencing sour grapes. Reminds me of Antrelle Rolle, cry baby. (and I HATE glen beck and the tea-o-cons) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosperity Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 sounds more like an establishment hack lost his bid for reelection and is now experiencing sour grapes. Reminds me of Antrelle Rolle, cry baby.(and I HATE glen beck and the tea-o-cons) well just cause you're a cry baby don't mean someone didn't steal your lollipop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Amen!!!! i refused to use the word because i have this view that the ninth commandment must mean something. I remember one year bill clinton—the guy i was out to get [when serving on the house judiciary committee in the 1990s]—at the national prayer breakfast said something that was one of the most profound things i've ever heard from anybody at a gathering like that. He said, "the most violated commandment in washington, dc"—everybody leaned in; do tell, mr. President—"is, 'thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor.'" i thought, "he's right. That is the most violated commandment in washington." for me to go around saying that barack obama is a socialist is a violation of the ninth commandment. He is a liberal fellow. I'm conservative. We disagree...but i don't need to call him a socialist, and i hurt the country by doing so. The country has to come together to find a solution to these challenges or else we go over the cliff. Wow.... I hated Bill Clinton. I wanted to destroy him. Then I had six years out [after leaving Congress in 1999] to look back on that, and now I would confess it as a sin. It is just wrong to want to destroy another human being and to spend so much time and effort trying to destroy Bill Clinton—some of it with really suspect information. We went on and on about Whitewater. We had talked about the strange things about Vince Foster's death. The drug dealing at Mena airport. So in the six years I was out, I looked back and realized, "Oh what a waste." Where is this kind of honesty from those now serving!? Damned RINO As an example of both the GOP pandering to right-wing voters and conservative talk show hosts undercutting sensible policymaking, Inglis points to climate change. Fossil fuels, he notes, get a free ride because they're "negative externalities"—that is, pollution and the effects of climate change—"are not recognized" in the market. Sitting in front of a wall-sized poster touting clean technology centers in South Carolina, Inglis says that conservatives "should be the ones screaming. This is a conservative concept: accountability. This is biblical law: you cannot do on your property what harms your neighbor's property." Which is why he supports placing a price on carbon—and forcing polluters to cover it. I might have actually voted for this guy. For Inglis, this is the crux of the dilemma: Republican members of Congress know "deep down" that they need to deliver conservative solutions like his tax swap. Yet, he adds, "We're being driven as herd by these hot microphones—which are like flame throwers—that are causing people to run with fear and panic, and Republican members of Congress are afraid of being run over by that stampeding crowd." Inglis says that it's hard for Republicans in Congress to "summon the courage" to say no to Beck, Limbaugh, and the tea party wing. "When we start just delivering rhetoric and more misinformation...we're failing the conservative movement," he says. "We're failing the country." Yet, he notes, Boehner and House minority whip Eric Cantor have one primary strategic calculation: Play to the tea party crowd. "It's a dangerous strategy," he contends, "to build conservatism on information and policies that are not credible." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 well just cause you're a cry baby don't mean someone didn't steal your lollipop it's not his lollipop....though incumbents seem to think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulane Skins Fan Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 sounds more like an establishment hack lost his bid for reelection and is now experiencing sour grapes. Reminds me of Antrelle Rolle, cry baby.(and I HATE glen beck and the tea-o-cons) SS, you are generally a smart poster who believes deeply in his convictions, but makes his points rationally. However, what you just did is classic of any extreme-group mentality when someone speaks out against you. The guy has a 93% conservative rating? And the response to his criticism is to call him a hack? To censor his feelings? This is what extremists do, I'm sorry, but this is what they do. When someone disagrees with you, you use an ad hominem attack. Often times it makes no sense. It was like calling Murtha unpatriotic when he spoke out against the way. Its the same thing here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 sounds more like an establishment hack lost his bid for reelection and is now experiencing sour grapes. Reminds me of Antrelle Rolle, cry baby.(and I HATE glen beck and the tea-o-cons) Yeah! He's talking pure nonsense with all that logical thinking crap! Stupid ideas like not lying, and actually working together, and not playing into fear and demagoguery...what a tool that guy is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosperity Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 it's not his lollipop....though incumbents seem to think so true enough, but I gotta sympathize with someone that has to deal with these idiots on a daily basis They say, 'Bob, what don't you get? Barack Obama is a socialist, communist Marxist who wants to destroy the American economy so he can take over as dictator. Health care is part of that. And he wants to open up the Mexican border and turn [the US] into a Muslim nation.'" that's gotta be real frustrating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 that's gotta be real frustrating Sounds like he's in the Tailgate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Jon Stewart did a bit last night about how there isn't a character in history--real or fictional--that would satisfy the Tea Party. They went through Reagan, Jefferson and even Superman (illegal alien). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 SS, you are generally a smart poster who believes deeply in his convictions, but makes his points rationally.However, what you just did is classic of any extreme-group mentality when someone speaks out against you. The guy has a 93% conservative rating? And the response to his criticism is to call him a hack? To censor his feelings? This is what extremists do, I'm sorry, but this is what they do. When someone disagrees with you, you use an ad hominem attack. Often times it makes no sense. It was like calling Murtha unpatriotic when he spoke out against the way. Its the same thing here. One can be extremely rational and even correct while still being a cry baby. He was used to power and is upset that he doesnt have it any longer. As to the "hack" comment, I personally consider virtually every congress critter an establishment hack these days barring a select few who have the courage to not "step in line" ---------- Post added September-14th-2011 at 01:01 PM ---------- Yeah! He's talking pure nonsense with all that logical thinking crap! Stupid ideas like not lying, and actually working together, and not playing into fear and demagoguery...what a tool that guy is. I challenge you to post a quote where I called him a "Tool", or "stupid" or even that he was speaking nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I challenge you to post a quote where I called him a "Tool", or "stupid" or even that he was speaking nonsense. Sorry, I guess I was confused when you called him a hack, and said that you thought that what he was saying now was because he's bitter. To me that's what tools do. What's sad is that you insinuate that he didn't have the courage to step out and not tow the line....but that's confusing, because if he wasn't towing the line then why did he lose his seat? He lost his seat because he refused to tow the line of hate and idiocy that the Tea Party and the GOP each are embracing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Sorry, I guess I was confused when you called him a hack, and said that you thought that what he was saying now was because he's bitter. To me that's what tools do. Well, he certainly does seem bitter, and is most definitely an establishment hack. A Hack will say something like he did to Romney (another Hack btw). "Inglis told presidential candidate Mitt Romney, a Mormon, "You cannot equate Mormonism with Christianity; you cannot say, 'I am a Christian just like you.'" He is just another establishment proponent of an ever increasing reach in Federal Government. His support for banning internet Gambling is just one example. heck, his nickname is commonly known as "Bailout Bob" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Well, he certainly does seem bitter, and is most definitely an establishment hack. A Hack will say something like he did to Romney (another Hack btw). "Inglis told presidential candidate Mitt Romney, a Mormon, "You cannot equate Mormonism with Christianity; you cannot say, 'I am a Christian just like you.'" He is just another establishment proponent of an ever increasing reach in Federal Government. His support for banning internet Gambling is just one example. heck, his nickname is commonly known as "Bailout Bob" And yet, everything he said in the article is true, so maybe he is right to be bitter about the looney's that the GOP has decided to bed down with. As far as him being a hack, the things you list are just policy decisions, those things don't make him a hack. Dear God I can't believe I'm defending a Republican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmySmith Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Extremists have influence in Washington???!!!! I am shocked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 And yet, everything he said in the article is true, so maybe he is right to be bitter about the looney's that the GOP has decided to bed down with.As far as him being a hack, the things you list are just policy decisions, those things don't make him a hack. Dear God I can't believe I'm defending a Republican. Doesnt matter if the things are true, which I also believe to be the case. He is simply bitter and failed to understand the pulse of his current constituency. It's precisely his policy stances that make him a hack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Doesnt matter if the things are true, which I also believe to be the case. He is simply bitter and failed to understand the pulse of his current constituency. Yeah, they went crazy and the leadership decided to do a "Hey there go my people, I must find where they are going so I can lead them" maneuver, and he decided that was dishonest, and now he's out of office....BTW, it does matter that these things are true. It's precisely his policy stances that make him a hack. No, a hack is a brain dead idiot who only makes choices because those over him tell him what to think, and since this guy obviously didn't do that then he fails to meet hack criteria. Boehner, McConnell, Bachmann, now those are hacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allannis Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Yeah, they went crazy and the leadership decided to do a "Hey there go my people, I must find where they are going so I can lead them" maneuver, and he decided that was dishonest, and now he's out of office....BTW, it does matter that these things are true.No, a hack is a brain dead idiot who only makes choices because those over him tell him what to think, and since this guy obviously didn't do that then he fails to meet hack criteria. Boehner, McConnell, Bachmann, now those are hacks. Oh cmon, you couldn't think of any Dems to throw in there, you don't want us to think your a hack do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Oh cmon, you couldn't think of any Dems to throw in there, you don't want us to think your a hack do you? Pelosi, Reid, pretty much the entire Senate, and most of the House (I actually like KY-Chandler), and at this point Obama is slowly sliding into that category for me too. Yeah...there I said it....I'm not happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allannis Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Pelosi, Reid, pretty much the entire Senate, and most of the House (I actually like KY-Chandler), and at this point Obama is slowly sliding into that category for me too.Yeah...there I said it....I'm not happy. I'm proud of you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I'm proud of you I'm still not voting for any of the GOP candidates though....so don't get your hopes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allannis Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I'm still not voting for any of the GOP candidates though....so don't get your hopes up. :ols::ols::ols::ols::ols: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Dear God I can't believe I'm defending a Republican. And this is part of the problem. The line between "us" and "them" shouldn't be that hard. We've created these artificial enemies or maybe they've created them and too many of us have bought in. There are few Republicans who are the Devil. Same with the Dems. Sadly, there aren't all that many angels either on either side. We need to love all our neighbors, no? Even the heathen Republican for he too, if barely, is a child of God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 And this is part of the problem. The line between "us" and "them" shouldn't be that hard. We've created these artificial enemies or maybe they've created them and too many of us have bought in. There are few Republicans who are the Devil. Same with the Dems. Sadly, there aren't all that many angels either on either side.We need to love all our neighbors, no? Even the heathen Republican for he too, if barely, is a child of God. I seriously hope my comment was read in jest. It did occur to me that the reason that I'm defending him is because he is talking sense, and I wouldn't be defending him if he were just blabbing out talking points, and I also recognize that the reason they are attacking him is exactly te same reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 I seriously hope my comment was read in jest.It did occur to me that the reason that I'm defending him is because he is talking sense, and I wouldn't be defending him if he were just blabbing out talking points, and I also recognize that the reason they are attacking him is exactly te same reason. Sorry. I've been away for a little while from the tailgate and I sometimes people grasp so feverishly to their side (right or wrong) that it irritates me. I wish that that vast majority of the U.S.... you know, the guys who aren't paid by one of the political parties would stop being quite so dedicated to their party. This statement is not aimed at you, but generally. Too many seem to stand behind their party no matter what despite how clear it is that both parties have gone off the rails. Support good ideas for whichever party. Stop being beholden to a party that hides behind a false ideology which they don't follow. Whether that's the Dems who protest against the crippling of our civil liberties and then turn a blind eye when Obama continues the Bush policies. or When Republicans claim fiscal conservatism and promote policies that are the exact opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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