Califan007 The Constipated Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Williams now has Ware's old D-Coordinator...and in that ridiculously lengthy thread about how tr1 might have been right about Ware, someone said something like "It will be interesting to see how Mario Williams compares to Ware this year now that he has Phillips as his coach." Sooo...gonna keep tabs on both players and see how they compare each week. :thumbsup: *EDIT: Williams is out for the year due to injury, so the sack race between him and Ware comes to an end. Mario Williams: 5 sacks in 5 games DeMarcus Ware: 5 sacks in 4 games Chris Neild: 2 sacks in 1 game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Texas top pro team: 1 win. Texas forgotten pro team: 1 loss. I'ma liking Williams here. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 They aren't the same player, not even close. Their numbers may be identical right now, but once the seasons over, I think Ware will be way ahead of Williams. Wares a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted September 12, 2011 Author Share Posted September 12, 2011 Texas top pro team: 1 win.Texas forgotten pro team: 1 loss. I'ma liking Williams here. Hail. :applause: They aren't the same player, not even close. Their numbers may be identical right now, but once the seasons over, I think Ware will be way ahead of Williams. Wares a beast. What, you're just ignoring Chris Neild in all of this? :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellsMyHero28 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 What, you're just ignoring Chris Neild in all of this? :mad: tr1: Chris Neild is just a product of Haslett's defensive scheme Just jokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 What, you're just ignoring Chris Neild in all of this? :mad: So what if I am, what are you gonna do about it, lol me to death!?! :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted September 12, 2011 Author Share Posted September 12, 2011 So what if I am, what are you gonna do about it, lol me to death!?! :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 tr1: Chris Neild is just a product of Haslett's defensive scheme Just jokes. LOL! ---------- Post added September-12th-2011 at 07:56 PM ---------- They aren't the same player, not even close. Their numbers may be identical right now, but once the seasons over, I think Ware will be way ahead of Williams. Wares a beast. Sure...he's a beast... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Williams now has Ware's old D-Coordinator...and in that ridiculously lengthy thread about how tr1 might have been right about Ware, someone said something like "It will be interesting to see how Mario Williams compares to Ware this year now that he has Phillips as his coach."Sooo...gonna keep tabs on both players and see how they compare each week. :thumbsup: Week 1: Mario Williams: 2 sacks DeMarcus Ware: 2 sacks And just for ****s and giggles: Chris Neild: 2 sacks ... So...by TR1's logic, he is wrong so far because Ware looks as good as ever with a different defensive coordinator. Not to mention that Williams has been a stud before converting to a LB having 14, 12, and 9 sack seasons as a DE. The real test is whether Ware will lose production without the great Phillips. I think we all know the answer to that....except TR1, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Sure...he's a beast... It's not even a matter of opinion dude, seriously...:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted September 13, 2011 Author Share Posted September 13, 2011 So...by TR1's logic, he is wrong so far because Ware looks as good as ever with a different defensive coordinator. Not to mention that Williams has been a stud before converting to a LB having 14, 12, and 9 sack seasons as a DE. 9 sacks deserves "stud" status? The real test is whether Ware will lose production without the great Phillips. I think we all know the answer to that....except TR1, lol. You've been so wrong so often, Ken, that I'm surprised you still keep predictions in your online arsenal lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Ware will have a much better season than Williams. Williams is just learning the 3-4 and as a nearly 300lbs rusher is out of place at either OLB or DE in Wade's system. I wouldn't be surprised if they dangled him as trade bait before next years draft to a team that runs a 4-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 9 sacks deserves "stud" status?You've been so wrong so often, Ken, that I'm surprised you still keep predictions in your online arsenal lol... I think you may want to review my history. Very accurate in my predictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble Screen Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 It's not even a matter of opinion dude, seriously...:doh: Haven't you learned by now, no one with a star on their helmet can't possibly be any good.:insane: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted September 18, 2011 Author Share Posted September 18, 2011 Updated... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Updated... My money is still on Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Updated... Texas top pro team: 2 wins.Texas forgotten pro team: Still forgotten. Me too. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNabbOwnsFedEx Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 This is really ridiculous. DeMarcus Ware is the best defensive player in the nfl. Trying to downplay what he has done since he came in the league is just ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted September 21, 2011 Author Share Posted September 21, 2011 This is really ridiculous. DeMarcus Ware is the best defensive player in the nfl. Trying to downplay what he has done since he came in the league is just ignorant. Then this thread will be a ringing endorsement for that opinion, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 I wouldn't say he's the best defensive player, but certainly top 3. Ware already has the sack total Tr1 predicted he'd have for the entire year though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 I wouldn't say he's the best defensive player, but certainly top 3. Ware already has the sack total Tr1 predicted he'd have for the entire year though. Good to hear he's done then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNabbOwnsFedEx Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Then this thread will be a ringing endorsement for that opinion, yes? You didn't need this thread for that. Saw a stat today on nfl live when Lamar Woodley was on. Since 2008, Ware leads the league in sacks with 51 or 50, forget which one. The next closest has 41.5. That's all system? BS The man has averaged 13+ sacks a year for his career. Put him in any defense and he's the featured player because, surprise, defenses feature their best players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 You didn't need this thread for that. Saw a stat today on nfl live when Lamar Woodley was on. Since 2008, Ware leads the league in sacks with 51 or 50, forget which one. The next closest has 41.5. That's all system? BSThe man has averaged 13+ sacks a year for his career. Put him in any defense and he's the featured player because, surprise, defenses feature their best players. Here's another stat for you: 2011 - QB rating against 92.8, 25.5 ppg against 2010 - QB rating against 92.4, 27.5 ppg against Yeah, he's friggin dominant. Blaming other people in 3...2...and 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNabbOwnsFedEx Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Here's another stat for you:2011 - QB rating against 92.8, 25.5 ppg against 2010 - QB rating against 92.4, 27.5 ppg against Yeah, he's friggin dominant. Blaming other people in 3...2...and 1 He does not play every position. I guess you think Suh sucked last year too, or that Patrick Willis is no good, Mario Williams also sucks(26.7ppg last year), Dwight Freeney is no good come on, that's weak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 He does not play every position. I guess you think Suh sucked last year too, or that Patrick Willis is no good, Mario Williams also sucks(26.7ppg last year), Dwight Freeney is no good come on, that's weak I never said he wasn't good. He's just not dominant. Demarcus Ware never takes over a game like Lawrence Taylor did. He just doesn't. He doesn't take over games like Ray Lewis still can at 36. Suh affects a game a lot more than Ware does. Ware gets his sacks but no teams run away from him. You don't sit there and watch a Dallas game and marvel at what he does every play. He's better than Orakpo but not remarkably so. And he never dominates good tackles. You can worship him all you want and he's a tremendous player but he's not even close to being the most dominant defender in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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