Leonard Washington Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Looks like running up the center and right are a lost cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted November 4, 2011 Author Share Posted November 4, 2011 Well shoot, I was re-visiting this in quarters. Y'all are a game early darn it. (Not that the evaluation would change, but still.). Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Is love to get Chris Wells from Houston. He's Lready familiar with the ZBS. We could then draft a guard or center in the later rounds and let Wells groom him a little. I also think the more we address the offensive line in free agency, the more able the Skins will be to trade up and get a franchise QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 If we had a top 10 QB behind the starting line before the injuries I think we'd all have said our line was one of the best in the league. Yes we have 0 depth and its like they didn't even try to bring in more guys but the starting 5 other than Brown were pretty damned good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper 21 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 oline healthy b- oline without trent and korey f our best lineman dont get it twisted is montgomery. (espn take it with a grain of salt has him the best center in the nfc e) So MS added trent, korey and montgomery all hand picked. he wanted yanda over chester but had to settle, and i think we all were expecting a more efficient brown. but something toI adress for sure. The depth problem will come with more guys like cook capers hurt smith getting more experience. I am still expecting Smith to start before the year is up, he does this with young guys thats how he builds players by having vets play ahead of them until he thinks they are ready. IE dockery and Korey. IE Rabach and Montgomery it takes time guys patience he knows what he is doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildbill1952 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 You don't build depth with experience. You build depth (or an OL) with talent. Locklear has experience. It's talent he lacks. Brown has experience. Montgomery has experience. Chester has experience. Cook has 2 games worth of experience but almost no talent. Montgomery has a little talent at center but at left guard he has displayed none. Lots of experience with limited talent is what you currently have on the Redskins OLine. And it's awful. With Williams back (if he's back this week) you increase the talent level. Moving Montgomery back to center increases the talent level there. Look at the 49ers this week, who invested in talent over the past 4 years: 2010 1st round OT Anthony Davis 2010 1st round OG Mike Iupati 2008 2nd round OG Chilo Rachal (Remember this year? We ghad 3 second round picks and didn't pick up an OL) 2007 1st round OT Joe Staley The 49ers are now enjoying the benefits of those decisions to draft OL talent. Alex Smith stunk until the OL got some talent. Same here with any QB drafted, traded for or signed. The Skins will never be a great team until the OLine is great, no matter who the QB is or the coach. People talked like the ZBS produced Hogs out of sow's ears. It doesn't. You still need talent on the offensive line. Building an OL out of other team's castoffs and 6th and 7th round picks means you have little or no talent on the OL and none in your so-called "depth". No OL means no offense. And no offense means you lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted November 5, 2011 Author Share Posted November 5, 2011 If we had a top 10 QB behind the starting line before the injuries I think we'd all have said our line was one of the best in the league. Yes we have 0 depth and its like they didn't even try to bring in more guys but the starting 5 other than Brown were pretty damned good. I think anyone saying that our line was either 'one of the best in the league', or 'pretty damned good' before the injuries would of been coming at this from the most homeristic (new word?) of homer standpoints. And whilst a top 10 QB would of masked a lot of that, it wouldn't of taken away from the fact 4 of the front 5 are little better than good back-up's if truth be told. Grossman was getting hit all over the place when we had our best 5 out there, and the run game when it came up against good D fronts was non-existent. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I think anyone saying that our line was either 'one of the best in the league', or 'pretty damned good' before the injuries would of been coming at this from the most homeristic (new word?) of homer standpoints. And whilst a top 10 QB would of masked a lot of that, it wouldn't of taken away from the fact 4 of the front 5 are little better than good back-up's if truth be told. Grossman was getting hit all over the place when we had our best 5 out there, and the run game when it came up against good D fronts was non-existent.Hail. It's because our QB's suck. Put Brees behind our line and all of a sudden they are Pro Bowlers, like Brown WAS in NO, but he's our worst guy on the line now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted November 5, 2011 Author Share Posted November 5, 2011 It's because our QB's suck. Put Brees behind our line and all of a sudden they are Pro Bowlers, like Brown WAS in NO, but he's our worst guy on the line now. No argument that a great QB can mask a heck of a lot; and elevate a lot of average players to look pretty darn good out there. But it still wouldn't take away from the fact that the only real starting caliber talent we have up front is Trent. the other 4 would still have to be addressed going forward regardless. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEREALTOR1 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 It's because our QB's suck. Put Brees behind our line and all of a sudden they are Pro Bowlers, like Brown WAS in NO, but he's our worst guy on the line now. It can't be entirely put on the QB. Go on 106.7 and see if you can find the interview with Cooley yesterday morning (if you haven't heard it already), when asked about the ass kicking the skins took on sunday against the bills he noted that the biggest issue he saw from watching the game was that none of the skill players were making plays. Nothing wrong with the scheme, the playcalling, we aren't "the worst team to ever play the game" as some on here have observed, simply nobody stepped up and made any sort of play, when a play needed to be made. Sure this includes Beck as part of that group, but it also falls on the TE's, the WR's the RB's, etc... Unless the game is a complete domination between one extremely talented team vs a less talented team, the outcome of the game can typically be directly attributed to the skill position players making a handful of plays at a time when an obvious play might not be easily visible (or even nearly possible for that matter), but somehow they utilize their talent, their ability, and make a play that ultimately changes the game. That didn't happen on Sunday. The players know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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