sportjunkie07 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Guy I was looking at today who's very intriguing is Margus Hunt from SMU. Bruce Feldman brought him up in his athletic freaks article and this guy is unreal athletically. Just a name to keep an eye on with our SMU connection ive seen him in a few games, but have only really noticed him for his blocked kicks... dude is beast at that. im not sure how he finished out the year at DE.. this year could be telling for him and you know shanny has already heard of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemoveSnyder Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7906962/fresno-state-bulldogs-receiver-jalen-saunders-transfer-oklahoma-sooners Jalen Saunders had a first-team all-WAC season for Fresno State with more than 1,000 yards receiving and 12 touchdowns. It's an output he will now strive to replicate in Norman. 21.30 yards per catch http://vimeo.com/34519770 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Jackson Jeffcoat is going to be a very special football player in the NFL. High motor freak athlete. As a 3-4 OLB watch out Agreed. Texas's defense as a whole is special, particularly those two ends. But I like the safety a lot too. ---------- Post added May-9th-2012 at 07:55 AM ---------- What do you all expect to be long term need positions next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukes and Skins Posted May 9, 2012 Author Share Posted May 9, 2012 Agreed. Texas's defense as a whole is special, particularly those two ends. But I like the safety a lot too.---------- Post added May-9th-2012 at 07:55 AM ---------- What do you all expect to be long term need positions next year? my 2 long terms needs for the team I think are going to be CB and S. Most of the other spots on the team are starting to be in good shape but the secondary right now is still iffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Does anyone think we'll be anywhere close to be able to draft Mantei Te'o from Notre Dame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWinSkins83 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Does anyone think we'll be anywhere close to be able to draft Mantei Te'o from Notre Dame? We don't need Te'o we got 2 young ILBs. We need a #1 CB, FS, and I want a NT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 We don't need Te'o we got 2 young ILBs. We need a #1 CB, FS, and I want a NT. Not to nitpick, but we'll eventually need at least one or (ideally) two more. If you're suggesting that we won't need another starter, then I can see your point though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWinSkins83 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Not to nitpick, but we'll eventually need at least one or (ideally) two more. If you're suggesting that we won't need another starter, then I can see your point though. Yeah we are goin to need a b/u not Te'o. I wouldn't worry about it next year either. Next draft is deep though so we might luck up and a ILB rated as an 2nd rounder. But that can be said for CB, S, NT, or WR can drop too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukes and Skins Posted May 9, 2012 Author Share Posted May 9, 2012 Yeah we are goin to need a b/u not Te'o. I wouldn't worry about it next year either.Next draft is deep though so we might luck up and a ILB rated as an 2nd rounder. But that can be said for CB, S, NT, or WR can drop too. So far CB S and WR are really deep in terms of guys I've started to look at. I tell you some of y'all need to go watch Marquess Wilson from Wash State. That is a playmaker at WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 We don't need Te'o we got 2 young ILBs. We need a #1 CB, FS, and I want a NT. This is a make or break year at NT for Cofield. It might be that we won't need one. I like the guys behind Cofield too, particularly Neild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukes and Skins Posted May 9, 2012 Author Share Posted May 9, 2012 This is a make or break year at NT for Cofield. It might be that we won't need one. I like the guys behind Cofield too, particularly Neild. I think after this year we wont be worrying about Cofield at NT at all. He started to really develop into something very good as the year went on, and now with a full offseason to really develop then he'll be in very good shape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Does anyone think we'll be anywhere close to be able to draft Mantei Te'o from Notre Dame? Even if it's to the detriment of OU, I'm kinda' hoping Tom Wort has a dip in his progress this year and drops. The English kid is a heck of a baller. Fast, savvy, non-stop motor and one tough, undersized SOB. Remind you of anyone? Sadly, if he steps up again this year I can't see him not going in the top 2 rounds. But man he'd be a great addition if we could snag him. And yes GW, aside from it never being a bad thing to constantly draft LB's when you run a 34, we definitely still need more going forward. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWinSkins83 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 So far CB S and WR are really deep in terms of guys I've started to look at. I tell you some of y'all need to go watch Marquess Wilson from Wash State. That is a playmaker at WR Oh I was watching film on him last night. I like his body control, how he snatches the ball, and runs after the catch. Him and Cobi Hamilton r 2 WRs that would fit well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I think that this is a really rough patch for the safety position league wide. I think we could see some important changes in the way the position is played moving forward. Constant injuries to Troy Polamalu, the aging of Ed Reed, the death of Sean Taylor, the array of career ending injuries to Bob Sanders, the career ending injury to LaRon Landry, the serious injury to Eric Berry... it's been an unmitigated disaster at the safety position for the entire NFL. Basically the old generation of star safeties is just about done and the middle generation never arrived. There are no star safeties right now. There are a couple really good ones like Eric Weddle (sadly, the best safety in the league right now unless Polamalu is healthy) and Michael Griffin, Dashon Goldson, and Adrian Wilson. And there are a couple of seeming up and comers like Kam Chancellor, T.J. Ward, and Jairus Byrd. None of them are stars though. The best safety play in the league today probably happens when the top CBs line up at safety like Charles Woodson. I think the position is changing anyway. It's getting to the point where safeties must be able to single cover slot receivers. Box duty is less important than it has been for a loooong time and it's only going to continue to grow less important. I think the prototype safety today in a 3-4 defensive front is a Dashon Goldson type. The guy should be fast, physical, and tough but size and strength and the ability to play downhill are very secondary in importance now IMO. I think you'll see the physical but slower CBs with good ball skills and zone instincts be the new deep defensive backs. I think you'll see more rotating in secondaries moving forward. I think you'll eventually see fewer and fewer pure safeties taken in the first round and the traditional thumping safeties will go low in the draft. I think you'll see more mid round DeJon Gomes "DB" types playing safety because of their ability to cover the slot. Maybe not next year though. There are a lot of high quality safeties in the senior class that should probably go in the first two rounds because they can cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWinSkins83 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 This is a make or break year at NT for Cofield. It might be that we won't need one. I like the guys behind Cofield too, particularly Neild. I still think we many want to get a NT/DE like Star Lotulelei or Jesse Williams. They would make our defense feared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 What grade does Wilson have on him currently? I'm interested to see how Kenny Stills does this year as he steps up to a #1. He certainly floundered when Broyles went down the end of last year. Big year for him as he sure has playmaking talent. Presuming he declares early of course. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWinSkins83 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 What grade does Wilson have on him currently?I'm interested to see how Kenny Stills does this year as he steps up to a #1. He certainly floundered when Broyles went down the end of last year. Big year for him as he sure has playmaking talent. Presuming he declares early of course. Hail. Wilson who? If you mean Tyler Wilson I think he's 3rd behind Barkley and Thomas. Oh you meant the WR he should be 3rd too behind Woods and Hunter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Wilson who? If you mean Tyler Wilson I think he's 3rd behind Barkley and Thomas. The Washington State wide-out Marquess. Hail. *Edit* Seen your edit. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukes and Skins Posted May 9, 2012 Author Share Posted May 9, 2012 The Washington State wide-out Marquess.Hail. *Edit* Seen your edit. Thank you. I've got him #4 right now behind Allen Woods Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWinSkins83 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I've got him #4 right now behind Allen Woods Hunter Oh yeah Allen a beast too. I think Wilson is better for the Pros than Woods though. I believe he's a better jump ball WR, bigger frame, more catching radius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Even if it's to the detriment of OU, I'm kinda' hoping Tom Wort has a dip in his progress this year and drops. The English kid is a heck of a baller. Fast, savvy, non-stop motor and one tough, undersized SOB. Remind you of anyone?Sadly, if he steps up again this year I can't see him not going in the top 2 rounds. But man he'd be a great addition if we could snag him. We do have a second rounder this upcoming year, you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukes and Skins Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 Oh yeah Allen a beast too. I think Wilson is better for the Pros than Woods though. I believe he's a better jump ball WR, bigger frame, more catching radius. Allen I think is the most complete WR. He's just a freak and has been damn good even without the best QB play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWinSkins83 Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Allen I think is the most complete WR. He's just a freak and has been damn good even without the best QB play I agree with. He looks big out there. He's explosive and he fights for every yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemoveSnyder Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Allen I think is the most complete WR. He's just a freak and has been damn good even without the best QB play Here's one thing for me, just to preface, Allen and Woods and M. Wilson [edit] (was actually thinking of Markus Wheaton here, not Wilson) are all (kind-of) carbon copies of one another in that they are these slighty taller hybrid slot guys, if you follow me – who also can split out Flanker (moreso the case with Allen). But they rack up lots of catches with bubble screen and slip screen routes, especially Woods, but Allen a good bit as well. Not a demerit mind you, just pointing out. I'd venture a guess that Allen has a good bit of YAC due to the route designs he gets, being that the ball is in his hands close to the LOS quite often, with space. And with each of those guys, they dovetail Slant and quick-curl off of the slip screen. I noticed (Wheaton) and Allen being used much the same and the routes are all kind-of similar with Woods. (edit) Wilson's scheme is distinctly using him outside. Cal will push Allen downfield sometimes with a 10 yard Comeback and the Dig occasionally. But usually I saw him running underneath routes. His height does seem like an advantage, at least in the Pac-12. Just something I've seen from their offensive designs. Now if any one of those three are actually their listed size, I'd say it's Allen because he does look all of that 6'3" and his limbs look pronounced with length as well. So I guess I'm trying to tap into something - he's not your short (5'9") type slot guy, nor the proto "X" Split Out. Not saying that he couldn't or doesn't it's just the Cal system I guess. Am I off here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukes and Skins Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 I think actually he's an X guy in the NFL. While yes he does have those underneath routes and I agree with all of those guys are simliar, Allen though when I've watched does stretch the field vertically. I think partially though you hit it with being the Cal system. Allen has the ability to stretch the field and he can do it. I almost think Allen is held back a little in that system and when he hits the NFL watch out. Imagine Allen playing at OK State or Oklahoma, he'd be talked about as a top 5 pick. With him at Cal, he's still talked about, but not to the extent a guy like Woods has been Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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