WizSkinsO's Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 My experience doing scouting reports and statistical analysis and my proficiency with the same data and analytical programs you currently use MAKE/MAKES me an excellent candidate for your internship position. Which one? Your help is much appreciated. This is not for an actual internship but for a disagreement on the English language. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 "My experience doing scouting reports, statistical analysis, and my proficiency with the same data and analytical programs you currently use MAKE me an excellent candidate for your internship position." Try to use only 1 "and" when you're listing, use commas to separate the items so you don't need multiple "ands"; it looks like you have three where the third is a couplet of "data/analytical programs". That said, "makes" would be for a single item, "make" is for plural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Make. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 "My experience doing scouting reports and statistical analysis, as well as my proficiency with the same data and analytical programs you currently use, makes me an excellent candidate for your internship position. " There you go. That way you keep the subject of the sentence clear: "My experience... makes..." Agreed with ASF that without the commas it's a bit wordy and actually could be a run on sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royallypwned Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 "My experience doing scouting reports and statistical analysis, as well as my proficiency with the same data and analytical programs you currently use, makes me an excellent candidate for your internship position. " There you go. That way you keep the subject of the sentence clear: "My experience... makes..." Agreed with ASF that without the commas it's a bit wordy and actually could be a run on sentence. Except that it is experience AND proficiency. It is make in this sentence. "My experience...and proficiency MAKE me an excellent candidate..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwhich Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Make.That is all. Uhhhh...no it is makes.... Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royallypwned Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 And let the debate begin... even though "make" is clearly correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Except that it is experience AND proficiency. It is make in this sentence."My experience...and proficiency MAKE me an excellent candidate..." That's not the way my wording reads, is it? In the original sentence posed it would be make. In my suggestion I believe "makes" would still be correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Plural = make. Single = makes. And the sentence can be condensed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrifNick21 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 My experience doing scouting reports and statistical analysis and my proficiency with the same data and analytical programs you currently use MAKE/MAKES me an excellent candidate for your internship position. Which one? Your help is much appreciated. This is not for an actual internship but for a disagreement on the English language. Thanks in advance. My experience you use makes me. It's makes. Replace all that first part with the word "it." It's not "it make." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royallypwned Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 My experience you use makes me. It's makes.Replace all that first part with the word "it." It's not "it make." But that is not the only thing that is making him an excellent candidate. There is proficiency too. This and that make me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrifNick21 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Plural = make.Single = makes. And the sentence can be condensed. All of the "scouting reports and statistical analysis and my proficiency with the same data and analytical programs" is experience. He didn't have to include it and the sentence would've been fine. Experience is singular, therefore it's "makes." ---------- Post added March-21st-2011 at 11:32 PM ---------- This and that make me... No. This and that MAKES me. With the conjunction "and" it's saying you can make two separate sentences. This makes me. That makes me. Both this and that are singular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwhich Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 All of the "scouting reports and statistical analysis and my proficiency with the same data and analytical programs" is experience. He didn't have to include it and the sentence would've been fine. Experience is singular, therefore it's "makes." Exactly. Don't use make. Experience is singular. The other responses are incorrect. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 All of the "scouting reports and statistical analysis and my proficiency with the same data and analytical programs" is experience. He didn't have to include it and the sentence would've been fine. Experience is singular, therefore it's "makes." Ok but the way it is constructed, the sentence refers to TWO things. His experience blah blah and his proficiency blah blah. Two = make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royallypwned Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Exactly. Don't use make. Experience is singular. The other responses are incorrect.Sad. Why are people ignoring the second word? (proficiency) As currently constructed, there are two things that are mentioned. If the OP wants to rephrase the sentence to make it one, that's fine. But there is experience AND proficiency in the original sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 You don't experience proficiency, they are exclusive. It makes more sense if you take a pause and and a comma (which of course you don't actually use) after the AND in between the proficiency and the experience sections. The problem is, the sentence is wordy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrifNick21 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 The answer is makes. If it's not, I'll eat crow, but I'm 200% sure about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Exactly. Don't use make. Experience is singular. The other responses are incorrect.Sad. Incorrect according to this site: http://englishplus.com/grammar/00000026.htm Similar situation to this example: A compound subject whose parts are joined by "and" normally takes a plural verb. Correct: Joe and his brother know what happened. It is "make" if you keep the same wording you have. I do highly suggest this one though: "My experience doing scouting reports and statistical analysis, as well as my proficiency with the same data and analytical programs you currently use, makes me an excellent candidate for your internship position. " Multiple subjects, one verb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizSkinsO's Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 Thanks for all the replies. You all are the best. My teacher sides in the MAKE crowd. However, this debate has proved my main contention: that 99% of America would have no idea. My professor called it: "a serious subject-verb agreement error in the opening sentence: make [not makes]." If that's serious, I don't know what to do with my life. Agree also with those who called it long-winded, but the assignment guidelines called for THREE separate skills to be listed in the first sentence/paragraph. So it was not intended to be 'one' experience if that's what has caused confusion but rather a number of different experiences. I would agree that plural should have been make. But this is a "serious" error that earned me a D-. That's what amazes me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royallypwned Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Looks like "make" wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticVillain Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 I would say it like this, "My experience doing scouting reports and statistical analysis, plus my proficiency with the same data and analytical programs you're currently using, makes me an excellent candidate for your internship position." If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong. Like Asbury said, go easy with the "and" when you are listing things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrifNick21 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 "My experience doing scouting reports and statistical analysis and my proficiency with the same data and analytical programs you currently use MAKE/MAKES me an excellent candidate for your internship position." I'd just change the sentence. It's stunned I'm gonna have to eat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Thanks for all the replies. You all are the best. My teacher sides in the MAKE crowd. However' date=' this debate has proved my main contention: that 99% of America would have no idea.My professor called it: "a [b']serious[/b] subject-verb agreement error in the opening sentence: make [not makes]." If that's serious, I don't know what to do with my life. Agree also with those who called it long-winded, but the assignment guidelines called for THREE separate skills to be listed in the first sentence/paragraph. So it was not intended to be 'one' experience if that's what has caused confusion but rather a number of different experiences. I would agree that plural should have been make. But this is a "serious" error that earned me a D-. That's what amazes me. Haha Jesus that's rough man! What school? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 The answer is makes. If it's not, I'll eat crow, but I'm 200% sure about it. Separate it... My experience doing scouting reports and statistical analysis | and my proficiency with the same data and analytical programs you currently use MAKE/MAKES me an excellent candidate for your internship position. There's two reasons as to why he deserves this job. His experience is the first. His proficiency is the second. Two = make. ---------- Post added March-22nd-2011 at 12:42 AM ---------- Chipwich, shaking my head at how sure you were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royallypwned Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Separate it...My experience doing scouting reports and statistical analysis | and my proficiency with the same data and analytical programs you currently use MAKE/MAKES me an excellent candidate for your internship position. There's two reasons as to why he deserves this job. His experience is the first. His proficiency is the second. Two = make. ---------- Post added March-22nd-2011 at 12:42 AM ---------- Chipwich, shaking my head at how sure you were. We make a good grammar team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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