My take on the Mastermind(Shanahan)

[Atlass]

Speaking as a Broncos' fan Shanny doesn't run a West Coast offense,

People who say Shanny runs the west coast offense are really wrong.

He runs Mike Shanahan's offense which is way more run heavy than true west coast offenses. Also he likes QBs that can work out of the shotgun formation. Bill Walsh hated the shotgun formation. I also think another big difference is that Joe Montana can run the West Coast offense. I don't know how well he would be able to run the offense Shanny is going to assemble in D.C. He wants a QB that is going to have a big arm and can move. He wants a QB that can make everythow that he had in the playbook when he was coaching Elway.

Looking at what my vision of Shanny's perfect QB Would be Ben Roethelisberger. Big, smart, mobile, strong and can make all the throws. (sound a little like Campbell)

I personaly think that Campbell could be this guy as well. He doesn't have to be extrememly accurate but he has to be a guy that stretches the field. This puts a tremendous amount of pressure on the defense. Shanny would start games with nothing but passes throwing balls all over the field getting the defenseive players on their heels and then he would start with the ground game and the defense at this point are disorganized and frustrated on the verge of panic.

You will get to know him as a genius even before the first game. He is a genius, he really is. I challenge EVERY REDSKIN FAN to watch EVERY Shanny press conferance. Believe me you'll see that he is so damn smart. I promise just his intelect alone will beat Fluffy Boy and the Cowboys.

He did not get the name The Mastermid because of anything the Broncos did on the field, he got that name from his press conferances. You can just see how well prepared he is and what great Football Common Cents he has.

Snyder started it but the fans have to make this season special by buying into what is happening. The Redskind dynasty is back.

[Galvatron]

I smell a NNT this is the 100000th new uniform post.

[Friend of the Devil]

troll much??

[kevinklein]

Hm, tastes pretty unintelligible. Smells dumb too. I bet all your thoughts read about the same.

[Squidley]

yield in the merge....very soon -yoda

[skinsfan190]

Actually he does run a WCO. fail :doh:

[SirClintonPortis]

troll much??

He makes good points, even though he seems like he's hyper-ventilating just a bit. Makes sense Shanny wants a QB with an arm though...he doesn't like holding back...and boy did he love Cutler...

However, we should stick with what works, and the old uniforms are just fine.

[Missin Meast]

can someone just photo shop new uniforms as opposed to just talking about it ALL THE TIME!

[pez]

http://extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=180675&highlight=fashion

[Chicken Fried]

Campbell most certainly cannot make all of the throws. He messes up so many easy throws by his poor accuracy it's not even funny. His inaccuracy is one of a laundry list of his problems. I don't think he's quick-thinking enough to run Shanny's offense, either.

[skinsfan190]

Campbell most certainly cannot make all of the throws. He messes up so many easy throws by his poor accuracy it's not even funny. His inaccuracy is one of a laundry list of his problems. I don't think he's quick-thinking enough to run Shanny's offense, either.

I know who is check ur sig

Sam Braford and Clausen are great fits for Shanahans Offense. I'd be happy with either

[Forever21]

Campbell most certainly cannot make all of the throws. He messes up so many easy throws by his poor accuracy it's not even funny. His inaccuracy is one of a laundry list of his problems. I don't think he's quick-thinking enough to run Shanny's offense, either.

Careful now because JC's handler's will come by with their kid gloves and talk about 60% accuracy numbers.

[TD Riggo]

To OP:

NO! THEY DON'T!

[Atlass]

can someone just photo shop new uniforms as opposed to just talking about it ALL THE TIME!

Why does everyone want to talk about uniforms!?!?!?

I gues I would love for the skins burgundy to be even darker, like blood from a shotgun to the back of the head. I love that color!!

They could go all burgendy Blood with jersies and pants. That would kick ass.

[bulldog]

Relax, it's Shanahan's 6 year old grandson on the computer :laugh:

[The Rook]

Wow.

:munchout:

Needs something.

:helmet:The Rook

[Atlass]

Campbell most certainly cannot make all of the throws. He messes up so many easy throws by his poor accuracy it's not even funny. His inaccuracy is one of a laundry list of his problems. I don't think he's quick-thinking enough to run Shanny's offense, either.

I don't know a whole lot about Campbell, but if Shanny has any doubts about him he'll grab Sam Bradford and I believe still keep Campbell. Campbell might really blossom and Bradford could have a set back on the shoulder so this seems to make sense.

[x96bryan10]

Actually he does run a WCO. fail :doh:

Shannahan does not run a typical WCO the way MIke Holmgren and Jim Zorn run. Mike Shannahan has never been about the short passing game. I'm sure he takes alot from it and since he's a bill Walsh tree memeber its easier to throw him under that bus. Think about his 2 main qb's John Elway and Jay Cutler do they seem the type to be throwing 5 yard slants all game with the runnig back mixed in or are the qb's who stretch the field and make plays. It's been known for years that M. Shanny runs his own style of offense which was th OP's point.

[[[ghost]]]

Careful now because JC's handler's will come by with their kid gloves and talk about 60% accuracy numbers.

Yeah, and we wouldn't want anyone bringing logic or common sense into this circle jerk.

[ibarramedia]

Shannahan does not run a typical WCO the way MIke Holmgren and Jim Zorn run. Mike Shannahan has never been about the short passing game. I'm sure he takes alot from it and since he's a bill Walsh tree memeber its easier to throw him under that bus. Think about his 2 main qb's John Elway and Jay Cutler do they seem the type to be throwing 5 yard slants all game with the runnig back mixed in or are the qb's who stretch the field and make plays. It's been known for years that M. Shanny runs his own style of offense which was th OP's point.

Hmmm. Yes and no. From year one to about the 2nd Superbowl win, I think they stayed true to form as far as being close to the WCO that Zorn and Holmgren ran. The year before the first Superbowl win, Shanahan deviated from it a little bit by being the first WCO coach to implement a shotgun to suit John Elway who has always used shotgun under Dan Reeves. In today's NFL 100% of the teams use shotgun. Joe Gibbs,Jon Gruden and Mike Holmgren were the last 3 coaches to never use the shotgun and finally implemnted it on their offense to use on third down. Particularly third and long.

[ibarramedia]

Here is an interesting article from '99 in one of my files:

Script, please: Broncos follow man with plan

By Adam Schefter

Denver Post Sports Writer

Sept. 12, 99 - They know the script the way all great performers do. They

follow it line by line, just the way they rehearsed, hoping to stage the perfect

play, the perfect performance.

It's a scheme that has worked to near perfection for the Denver Broncos.

They collected top honors in 1997, and again with their sequel in '98. Now

they go for the trilogy.

The director and screenwriter, a k a head coach Mike Shanahan and

offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak, have been as essential to the production

as the leading men - Terrell Davis, Shannon Sharpe, Rod Smith et al. But

just like in Hollywood, every award-winning performance needs a good

script.

Which brings us to football, hardly a game predictable enough to be

confined to a script. But that doesn't stop Kubiak from being the offensive

playwright for each game. His actors practice it to perfection until the curtain

rises Sunday afternoon or Monday night.

With each script - usually 15 plays or so - they rehearse Wednesday,

Thursday, Friday and Saturday, then visualize during the moments they are

not on the field. It allows them to witness the performance before it even

unfolds. The stage plays in San Francisco, Seattle and Green Bay as well.

But nowhere do they do it as well as Denver.

"Scripting, to me, is almost like double preparation," Kubiak said. "We drill

in the player's head these 15 plays over and over again. And then their

individual coach is going to drill those 15 plays in their head. And they're

going to sit at their locker the day of the game and look at those 15 plays.

They will be coached so hard on those 15 plays that it's just got to be a

reason why they run them so much better and so clean. The preparation -

the double preparation, as I like to call it - makes them that much more

successful."

Scripting is not just a matter of helping players remember their assignments

on a given set of plays. It boils down to exploiting, if not creating, your

opponents' weaknesses.

For instance, let's say the Broncos' bread-and-butter play runs Davis off left

tackle, and they're playing a defense that reads and defends the play well.

To create a bit a confusion a script might have the Broncos running right out

of that Terrell Left formation for a decent gain, forcing an adjustment by the

defense. The next time the defense sees that formation, it's ready to react

right. Instead, the Broncos run Davis' money play to the left.

Boom!

Big gain. Just like they scripted it.

Recently, Kubiak agreed to sit down and reveal the Broncos' mind-set for

the script they used to earn football's Oscar, the Vince Lombardi Trophy,

when they beat the Atlanta Falcons in Super Bowl XXXIII.

Let's see what Denver did to get the Falcons leaning right when they were

going left.

The Broncos' Super Bowl script: down/to go/yard line

1/10/DB20: With the Falcons expecting the Broncos to hand Davis the ball

to start the game, Denver figured it could throw it to him. So on the first play

of the game, as they rehearsed all week, the Broncos sent Davis in motion,

acting as a receiver and not as a runner. Davis ran a little slant route outside

tight end Shannon Sharpe. The Broncos knew they were throwing for Davis

well before they left Denver for Miami. Not that John Elway couldn't have

thrown to another receiver; he could have. But No. 30 clearly was option

No. 1. The problem with the play was not the formation. It was the

execution. Elway was, as Kubiak described, "geeked up and the ball came

out smoking." The play did not go off as rehearsed.

Result: Incomplete pass.

2/10/DB20: Just as Davis was the designated target on play No. 1, Sharpe

was the designated target on play No. 2. Days before the game, Shanahan

predicted to his son Kyle that either Elway or Sharpe - not Davis - would

win Super Bowl XXXIII MVP. Shanahan figured the Falcons would be so

intent on keying on Davis that Elway and Sharpe would have the chance to

make some super history. No tight end had won a Super Bowl MVP, but

the Broncos truly believed this could be the first. Right away, the Broncos

tried to see if their instincts were correct. On their second offensive play of

the game, they put Elway in a shotgun formation and spread the field with

four wide receivers. But rather than play the zone defense Denver was

expecting, Atlanta blitzed. The Falcons nearly got Elway. But just before

they could sack him, Elway, as he had done so many times, backpedaled

away from danger. Just before he was sacked, he got rid of the ball. And

got it to the receiver who was running a hook route right in the middle of the

field. Sharpe. Just as it was scripted.

Result: 12-yard completion to Sharpe.

Every now and then, the script, like a firecracker, is a dud. There have

been times when the Broncos have run the first three or four plays of

their script, realized nothing was working, and scrapped their week of

preparation. "We'll say, 'Hey, these guys are playing us totally different

than we thought they would play us, that's gone, let's go on to

something else,'" Kubiak said. It happened last season at San Diego,

when Denver played a Sunday night game there in late November.

Right at the game's outset, the Chargers stuffed the Broncos cold, and

Denver turned a cold shoulder to it script. "We went to a two-back

shotgun (offense) and you can ask our players, it was a school-yard

football game," Kubiak said. "We were calling stuff that was not in the

game plan but we felt like that was the way we had to beat them. It

was not only not scripted, it was not even part of the plan." Good,

smart players adjust. They ad lib. And they find a way to make it work.

1/10/DB32: Even though there was a script - as there always is - Elway

had the option to audible out of a play if the defense he saw wasn't what he

was expecting. But when the Falcons stepped to the line of scrimmage in

their base defense on their third defensive play of the game, Elway liked

what he saw. He went right to the third play on the script. A Davis run

around left end. "We knew we were going to have to throw the ball to win,"

Kubiak said. "But we also knew T.D. was going to get his carries." This was

one.

Result: Davis gains 1 yard.

2/9/DB33: Sticking with the script - designed to see how Atlanta planned

to defend Denver's rushing attack - the Broncos stuck with Davis. "You're

trying to find out what a defense is all about, so you do a lot of things,"

Kubiak said. "You try to find out how they're going to play you in various

situations. So you're not only scripting plays for yourself, but your scripting

plays that make them react to what you're going to do for the rest of the

game. You might jump in a formation just to see how they would play that

formation. Or how they're going to match up on some of your people so that

when you get to quarters two, three and four you know now, early in the

game, how they would play you. In a lot of ways, you're trying to get people

to show their hand so to speak." This time the call was to run a little more

inside than the previous play. This time the play ran Davis right over left

tackle.

Result: Davis gains 2 yards.

"I know the argument for scripting plays," San Diego Chargers

quarterback Jim Harbaugh said this summer after another one of his

team's practices. "Everybody has a chance to think about them. There

are less penalties. My only question is, what happens if on the first play

of the game there's a bomb and it goes down to the 2-yard line? What

if your second scripted play is another long pass? So it's obviously

going to change. So do I like scripting? I'm not a big proponent of it. I

think there are a lot of plays that can change by sequence. And it's

going to happen. You can't just run 15 straight plays scripted out.

Games just don't go that way."

3/7/DB35: If it is ever third down and 3 or more yards to go, the Broncos

go off their main script right onto another. The one they shift to is their

third-down script. For each game, the Broncos have a list of third-down

plays they plan to use. Against the Falcons, the Broncos had one they

wanted to use more than others. During the week of preparations, Kubiak

approached Elway with a script specifically for third downs. "Mike and I

have a list of plays here," Kubiak told Elway. "Which one do you want

first?" Without hesitating, Elway responded, "Lion." Lion calls for Elway to

line up in the shotgun and for Broncos wide receiver Rod Smith to run a

deep slant route. Elway knew he was going to call it on the first third and

long he faced, and, sure enough, he did. The call worked like a dream.

Result: 41-yard completion to Smith.

1/10/AF24: Back to the script, and back to Davis. Even though it is play

No. 6, it is only play No. 5 on the Broncos' script. A Davis run over right

guard. The idea here is to mix it up, go to the other side of the field. The

Broncos also still want to see how the Falcons are playing the run. And,

with Falcons defensive tackle Shane Dronett leading a turbo-charged unit,

this is the answer: tough.

Result: Davis gains 1 yard.

2/9/AF23: Staying on the script - making it six of the seven plays it have

been used - the Broncos send Davis back over left guard. Seeing how the

Falcons have defensed him on his first three carries of the game, sensing

how they're going to do it the rest of the time, the Broncos are able to make

the necessary blocking adjustments and free Davis.

Result: Davis gains 9 yards.

Back when he was an offensive coach at USC, before he became the

San Diego Chargers head coach last January, Mike Riley tried

scripting plays in two games. "As soon as I'd get off of it, the other

coaches would start yelling, 'You're off the script! You're off the

script!'" Riley recalled. "But scripting just didn't work as well for me.

Our players know what our plays are in certain situations, so it's kind

of the same way of having a script in my mind. I find it a little

confining for a coach. Obviously Bill Walsh and Mike Shanahan have

had great success with it, but I kind of like to go more with the flow of

the game rather than the script."

1/10/AF14: Inside the opponent's 20-yard line is the area known as the red

zone. After Davis' 9-yard run, the Broncos found themselves in the red

zone. Whenever they arrive there, Shanahan goes off the script as often as

he stays on it. "If the boss likes what's on the script, he may stay on it,"

Kubiak said. "But he also may say I don't like that play I have scripted. That

was for a field play and we're down in the red zone. I want to go to my red

zone play." But here gut instincts tell Shanahan to decide to stick with the

script. It is another handoff to Davis, this one up the middle.

Result: Davis loses 1 yard.

2/11/AF15: Undaunted, even facing second and long, Shanahan stays on

the script for the eighth time in his team's first nine plays and goes back to

the player he is expecting to have the biggest game. He calls for Sharpe to

run a slant route down the middle of the field. Just as he expected, the play

is wide-open. Elway completes the pass to Sharpe, who is running toward

pay dirt. But just short of the end zone, Falcons cornerback Ray Buchanan

slams into Sharpe. The violent collision saves a touchdown for the Falcons

and costs Sharpe the rest of the game. Sharpe limps to the sideline with a

torn ligament in his knee, and his hopes of becoming the first tight end Super

Bowl MVP equally wounded. But Sharpe can take comfort in this: The play

was not a total loss.

Result: 14-yard completion to Sharpe.

1/1/AF1: Just as the Broncos have a 15-play script to open games, just as

they have a lengthy script of plays solely for third-down plays, they also

have a mental script for goal-line plays. "Mike was going to go to the first

play in our minds that we decided to call on the goal line," Kubiak said.

"This play was No. 1. We knew we were giving the ball to Howard Griffith

on the goal line in this game. We knew everybody thought 30 would get the

ball, that's why we went to Howard." So even the plays that are not scripted

are scripted in a lot of ways. It shows.

Result: Griffith gains 1 yard and a touchdown. Like many things in life - from eating sushi to bungee jumping -

scripting plays is not for everyone. But it is for the Broncos. "I just

think it's a hell of a deal," Kubiak said. "As a coach, it makes you so

comfortable because you've really called the first quarter of the

football game. Now you've got to go find out if you're right or wrong.

But you're preparation is such that when the ball's being kicked off and

you're saying, "OK, what am I going to call?' We know what we're

going to call. Here's what we're running. You could almost say, 'I'll be

back in 15 plays, somebody else call this game.' Because you're going

to stay with that script unless it doesn't work."

[TSO]

^^ It's obvious to anyone watching with an unbiased mind that Campbell plays really well when the offensive game plan is being followed strictly, and the opposing defense is playing the way the coaches expected. So the whole "script" thing is great for our team and Campbell, and with a coach like Shanahan who is usually right about what to expect from opposing defense's, the script should usually be "acted out".

That being said, the one thing I worry about is the improvising part. Campbell has shown to be very inconsistent when it comes to plays breaking down, or defense's figuring out what we're doing and playing us correctly. People mistake that often for Campbell being "slow" or a poor decision maker, but it's really the lack of confidence in his ability to improvise and "read and react". He's too worried he'll read it wrong.

If we are to stick with Campbell, I hope Shanahan can fix this issue of his. It's the one thing that will make Campbell clutch, which in my opinion, is the biggest missing element of his game.

[skinsfan190]

Shannahan does not run a typical WCO the way MIke Holmgren and Jim Zorn run. Mike Shannahan has never been about the short passing game. I'm sure he takes alot from it and since he's a bill Walsh tree memeber its easier to throw him under that bus. Think about his 2 main qb's John Elway and Jay Cutler do they seem the type to be throwing 5 yard slants all game with the runnig back mixed in or are the qb's who stretch the field and make plays. It's been known for years that M. Shanny runs his own style of offense which was th OP's point.

Get the **** out of here.

Every one knows he runs a run oriented WCO that is no secret.

[leesburgvaskinsfan]

^^ It's obvious to anyone watching with an unbiased mind that Campbell plays really well when the offensive game plan is being followed strictly, and the opposing defense is playing the way the coaches expected. So the whole "script" thing is great for our team and Campbell, and with a coach like Shanahan who is usually right about what to expect from opposing defense's, the script should usually be "acted out".

That being said, the one thing I worry about is the improvising part. Campbell has shown to be very inconsistent when it comes to plays breaking down, or defense's figuring out what we're doing and playing us correctly. People mistake that often for Campbell being "slow" or a poor decision maker, but it's really the lack of confidence in his ability to improvise and "read and react". He's too worried he'll read it wrong.

If we are to stick with Campbell, I hope Shanahan can fix this issue of his. It's the one thing that will make Campbell clutch, which in my opinion, is the biggest missing element of his game.

Very key point right there about JC. He shows the ability to tuck and go when a play breaks down, and the opportunity presents itself, but sometimes he's just a little slow to react. Seeing the field is another area of concern about him. Otherwise, if given time to make his progressions, he has the tools to succeed right here with Shanahan since he'll be smart enough to put JC into situations that best use his talents, unlike Zorn/Lewis' scheme based offense that didn't fit our players' strong points.

As for Coach Shanahan....I'm excited about the possibilities for us ahead!

Hail!

[skinsnbeer]

^^ It's obvious to anyone watching with an unbiased mind that Campbell plays really well when the offensive game plan is being followed strictly, and the opposing defense is playing the way the coaches expected. So the whole "script" thing is great for our team and Campbell, and with a coach like Shanahan who is usually right about what to expect from opposing defense's, the script should usually be "acted out".

That being said, the one thing I worry about is the improvising part. Campbell has shown to be very inconsistent when it comes to plays breaking down, or defense's figuring out what we're doing and playing us correctly. People mistake that often for Campbell being "slow" or a poor decision maker, but it's really the lack of confidence in his ability to improvise and "read and react". He's too worried he'll read it wrong.

If we are to stick with Campbell, I hope Shanahan can fix this issue of his. It's the one thing that will make Campbell clutch, which in my opinion, is the biggest missing element of his game.