Farbod21 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Laron Landry is really bad in coverage. I mean really bad. The guy cant anticipate a route if his life depended on it. He bites on double moves and is burnt time and time again. He doesn't have the closing speed to make up for mistakes and he often times goes for the big hit instead of the pass breakup, INT, or even sure tackle. He is being moved to SS, but I am not sure if that will fix the problem or just make it worse because we have a lot more talent at SS than FS (Doughty, Horton next year). Does this sound like R Williams? Big hitter, who is awful in coverage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruffylookin Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 This is an insult to Roy Williams. Check back and look at Roy Williams' first 3 seasons in the league. While his coverage skills were always suspect, he at least was a serious playmaker (especially against us). Landry wishes he could be Roy Williams at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirClintonPortis Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Landry may be worse than Roy Williams. Williams could lay the wood consistently. Landry still can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilclarke Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Cut him a little slack on his coverage skills... That's not his natural position... He actually played much better yesterday lined up at SS... He needs to be close to the line of scrimmage. That's where he belongs. Even though his coverage is suspect, I think his biggest problem is going for the knockout hit too much and not making the sure tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirClintonPortis Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Cut him a little slack on his coverage skills... That's not his natural position... He actually played much better yesterday lined up at SS... He needs to be close to the line of scrimmage. That's where he belongs. Even though his coverage is suspect, I think his biggest problem is going for the knockout hit too much and not making the sure tackle. Oh yes, a potentially "elite" SS has trouble covering a potentially "elite" runningback. Just further proves he's overrated to the core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gortiz Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 way too harsh ... he has been playing out of position and yesterday was his first game back in his wheel house and he killed. sure he got burned, but he got burned by a former first round pick that is a pretty dynamic and explosive player in his own right. he was a beast yesterday ...AND OH YEAH...did you any of you see his INT? awesome play. i'm not an LL supporter by any means, but you all are ****ing for the sake of ****ing with this one. he had a solid game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tone_dubbz Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Spot on, spot on. I don't know if he's as bad, but he's really not that good to be a top ten draft pick. Lets look at the guys we passed up to get this dude: (7) Adrian Peterson (11) Patrick Willis (14) Darrelle Revis :doh::doh::doh::doh::doh::doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnhay Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I think he'll prove a lot of people wrong as his career progresses. BTW, tone dubbs, we drafted him to be our SS alongside Sean Taylor (who had a bad season himself). You can't tell me that wouldn't have been worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhouse Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 He does have a big responsibility back there and he's not living up to it. But maybe moving him around and putting him closer to the line will help. He has potential just needs good coaching and be accountable for the mistakes he making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botched Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I think he'll prove a lot of people wrong as his career progresses. He already has. Most of us expected him to be a great player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnhay Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 He already has.Most of us expected him to be a great player. Well, "most of us" would have to be made up primarily of flip-floppers who can change their opinions drastically from week to week right? Because that's what most of the people on here do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwitt Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I prefer the Adam Archeletta comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfr3ek Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 if only #21 was still with us...**sigh** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tone_dubbz Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I think he'll prove a lot of people wrong as his career progresses.BTW, tone dubbs, we drafted him to be our SS alongside Sean Taylor (who had a bad season himself). You can't tell me that wouldn't have been worth it. At the time LL was the right pick, I agree. I'm just imagining the possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paredskinsfan Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I think he'll prove a lot of people wrong as his career progresses. Finally, someone with some sense. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emor09 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 RW doesn't even come close to LL's blitzing ability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnhay Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 At the time LL was the right pick, I agree. I'm just imagining the possibilities. That combo would have been so much fun to watch. Saying that, no one should mention how great a player Sean Taylor was and then imply that Landry's a bust (not directed towards you). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingGibbs Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 What amazes me is the lack of knowledge some people have on here. A lot of people seem to think that if Landry was moved to SS permanently that he would only have to help in run support. In some packages the SS is responsible for the TE or RB on pass plays. He was playing SS yesterday when McFadden made him his ***** on pass plays. He is horrendous in coverage. Period. There is no way to defend it. Get over your cute little Landry mancrush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikie Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 LL is a classic underachiever in my book... he's failed to evolve as a player and as a result has given opponents a blueprint on how to beat him... his coverage skills out of college were lauded... I remember reading how he had never allowed a TD over him in all his starts... I think he really suffered from ST's passing and probably more than anything, GW's discipline being absent... the guy's got incredible potential but hasn't done much to develop himself, and seems complacent making one decent hit per game and then celebrating like he just won the game for the team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooka Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I hate to admit it, but you're kinda right. And Roy Williams made more plays then Landry does. LL is a classic underachiever in my book... he's failed to evolve as a player and as a result has given opponents a blueprint on how to beat him... his coverage skills out of college were lauded... I remember reading how he had never allowed a TD over him in all his starts... I think he really suffered from ST's passing and probably more than anything, GW's discipline being absent... the guy's got incredible potential but hasn't done much to develop himself, and seems complacent making one decent hit per game and then celebrating like he just won the game for the team... Yea, if you read between the lines a bit, Landry isn't much of a team player. He's kinda a knucklehead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botched Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Well, "most of us" would have to be made up primarily of flip-floppers who can change their opinions drastically from week to week right? Because that's what most of the people on here do. It's the end of his 3rd year, and he has been bad all season. This isn't some sudden change of opinion from anybody. It's gotten so bad that opposing teams now appear to be tageting Landry because they know they can beat him easily. I agree with what bikie said. Landry's play has probably suffered alot from the absence of ST, and what seems to be no discipline whatsoever from Blache. This guy needed discipline, and lots of it. It's sad, I wanted the guy to be great. Right now, he's not even good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST is my boy Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 What amazes me is the lack of knowledge some people have on here. A lot of people seem to think that if Landry was moved to SS permanently that he would only have to help in run support. In some packages the SS is responsible for the TE or RB on pass plays. He was playing SS yesterday when McFadden made him his ***** on pass plays. He is horrendous in coverage. Period. There is no way to defend it. Get over your cute little Landry mancrush. I promise you there isnt a safety in the entire NFL that would have covered Mcfadden on that slant. That was a matchup nightmare and there should have been some help over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehardskin8229 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 put it on coaching Steve Jackson does not belong on this staff. He was a bad teacher to ST as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxonHillSkinsFan89 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Spot on, spot on.I don't know if he's as bad, but he's really not that good to be a top ten draft pick. Lets look at the guys we passed up to get this dude: (7) Adrian Peterson (11) Patrick Willis (14) Darrelle Revis :doh::doh::doh::doh::doh::doh: Hindsight is 50/50 *as the ol ball coach would say* They went for who they thought was the best player for them. Landry had a great combine and thought pairing him up Taylor would give us an Epic Safety tandom for the next decade. They passed on Peterson because we already had Portis and they weren't going to spend that much money on two backs. If you want your head to shake look at who we passed to up to get Carlos Rodgers. That'll make you want to throw your head in a wastebasket. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-bomb Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 It's coaching, and player doesn't just become bad we've all seen him achieve in this league and for him not to live up to his potential falls on the coaches! I know you some will say these are paid profressional's and they get paid to perform but so do the coaches. It's up to them to get the players to play at a high level and to give them the tools they need to succeed. Does anyone really think the giants,ravens,eagles defense's are all of a sudden mediocre? It was there coaches that made them they called the schemes that made these guys perform at a high level and when you take that away you get average production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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