Dirk Diggler Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8138b12f&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true Going into the season, the Redskins had an aging offensive line that was destined to become ravaged with injuries, a running back that may have seen his better days, no real offensive skill players that could scare a defense, and a quarterback that was never meant for the West Coast offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8138b12f&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=trueGoing into the season, the Redskins had an aging offensive line that was destined to become ravaged with injuries, a running back that may have seen his better days, no real offensive skill players that could scare a defense, and a quarterback that was never meant for the West Coast offense. Hmmm...you mean we could have used those #2 picks for something better than often-injured, heartless WRs and TE? Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 We do have some pretty bad talent, but Zorn could have called the plays for the Pats this past Sunday and struggled to score 17 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitnskins Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Just more hate.....Zorn's track record speaks for itself, as does the poor creativity that his offensive game planning has shown over the course of his stay here. Zorn is not HEAD COACHING MATERIAL right now.....he might have been fine up in a booth calling plays, but to try and do that and be a Head Coach is just a joke....which has been proven. I don't care what players he had, i think the results would've been similar. The media is having a field day hating on Snyder, for him being such a prick to everyone over the years.....and now Jim Zorns lousy coaching has finally exposed the front office, where as Gibbs, Schotty, and others had helped mask the defficiencies in our front office. Even Spurrier was better than Jim Zorn, and that's saying something. Spurrier didn't even have the talent that Zorn has to work with, and got better resluts., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangSteve Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 We could definitely sit Thomas or Kelly, and bring in this kid Mitchell to help out. We need some changes on this offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saqs Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 JZ has been preaching the need to execute better publically since at least the Steelers loss last year. I'd say if they're still not doing it at this point they need to be benched no matter who they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailToTheRedskins14 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Maybe we'd win a couple more games with better players. But this is a coach's league. Look at what Josh McDaniels is doing in Denver. He's made that defense legit with basically the same guys. I really wouldn't mind if Cerrato was fired and Zorn stayed on for another year or so but with less duties (no more QB coaching, just coach the team and call the plays), because we do have two years in with him. But I understand that he won't be back and I'm kinda 50/50 with it. I wish it had been successful with him here obviously but he was set up to fail. Cerrato is the biggest problem right now, but then you had to wonder if he had Zorn in his ear saying "No, we can win with that offensive line, don't worry about drafting any linemen", which I think is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saqs Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Maybe we'd win a couple more games with better players.But this is a coach's league. Look at what Josh McDaniels is doing in Denver. He's made that defense legit with basically the same guys. Denver has 8 new starters on D this year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drastik Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Thats what I've been saying since day 1. We dont have the WCO personnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowledge316 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 JZ has been preaching the need to execute better publically since at least the Steelers loss last year. I'd say if they're still not doing it at this point they need to be benched no matter who they are. i keep hearing this every week, about how it's the not the plays and when they watch the game films, the plays are good, it's just the players not executing it properly now, i'm not a head coach or OC, but it players aren't executing, shouldn't the coach make some changes (bench the players that are consistently not executing) and see if someone else can execute the plays properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saqs Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Maybe we'd win a couple more games with better players.But this is a coach's league. Look at what Josh McDaniels is doing in Denver. He's made that defense legit with basically the same guys. Denver has 8 new starters on D this year... For every Broncos story, there's a Titans story. Hell, WE were the Broncos this time last year... There is no magic formula in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Maybe we'd win a couple more games with better players.But this is a coach's league. Look at what Josh McDaniels is doing in Denver. He's made that defense legit with basically the same guys. Well, McDaniels IS doing a great job. But Mike Nolan runs that defense and has 8 new starters on it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audible_Red40 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 But this is a coach's league. Look at what Josh McDaniels is doing in Denver. He's made that defense legit with basically the same guys. I like what McDaniel's has done with Kyle Orton and the O, in such little time with a new scheme and new hand picked qb. But Mike Nolan deserves the credit with that "D". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornToHail Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Denver has 8 new starters on D this year... And Mike Nolan as the Defensive Coordinator. He sucked as a HC but is great as a DC. Zorn calls plays for players he doesn't have, and doesn't adjust to the ones he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins55 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 i keep hearing this every week, about how it's the not the plays and when they watch the game films, the plays are good, it's just the players not executing it properlynow, i'm not a head coach or OC, but it players aren't executing, shouldn't the coach make some changes (bench the players that are consistently not executing) and see if someone else can execute the plays properly You have the right idea which is why we KNOW that the coaching is horrible. No adjustments, no implementation of new schemes or plays, use of gadget plays in the first two games of the season.. Pathetic!:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheismannQuote Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I think that the players are descent. I wouldn't mention more than one or two of them in a pro-bowl debate. Everytime I hear Jim Zorn talk about execution, I think about how many times they couldn't punch in the TD on 1st and goal. I mean...there were numerous times over the past year and a half that the redskins were stuffed on the goal line over and over. How much confidence would that give you as a play caller? Your playbook gets smaller and smaller when you can't count on your players to take on their man and move the ball. That said...we have seen much adjustment on Zorn's part. We have seen the times that he "let's Clinton Portis rest". We've witnessed him sit down Jason Campbell (whether you agree or not). You've seen Cooley used more as a blocker and chipping to make up for the OLine. You've seen different variations of our receiver corp. Betts, Rock, Sellers running the ball. We've seen more shotgun formations. Deep balls. It just hasn't worked. SO, people will say that Zorn has made zero adjustment with the players he has. We'll see what happens with a new play caller...but I am expecting similar results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saqs Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I think that the players are descent. I wouldn't mention more than one or two of them in a pro-bowl debate. Everytime I hear Jim Zorn talk about execution, I think about how many times they couldn't punch in the TD on 1st and goal. I mean...there were numerous times over the past year and a half that the redskins were stuffed on the goal line over and over. How much confidence would that give you as a play caller? Your playbook gets smaller and smaller when you can't count on your players to take on their man and move the ball. That said...we have seen much adjustment on Zorn's part. We have seen the times that he "let's Clinton Portis rest". We've witnessed him sit down Jason Campbell (whether you agree or not). You've seen Cooley used more as a blocker and chipping to make up for the OLine. You've seen different variations of our receiver corp. Betts, Rock, Sellers running the ball. We've seen more shotgun formations. Deep balls. It just hasn't worked. SO, people will say that Zorn has made zero adjustment with the players he has. We'll see what happens with a new play caller...but I am expecting similar results. Good post. I share similar thoughts on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Truth Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Having "better" players on the O wouldn't hurt but I doubt it would make that much of a difference..I mean compare Zorn's plays with every other offensive coordinator in the league..playcalling is too basic and poses NO THREAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Fried Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 No ****. That's pretty obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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