Taylor 36 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Whatever guys. Colt Brennan can do any freaking thing he wants to. To the extent that he has Chuck Norris' number in his phone under "My man biatch." :laugh: Great post. Just give Colt the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney26 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 What exactly makes the run and shoot the run and shoot?? Whats the difference between run and shoot and say the fun and gun?? Can anyone elaborate more on what it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaganaut Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 OP is a brave man for posting something like this on the board. I actually was going to post the exact same thing three months ago as a JOKE, but wagered that people on ES aren't taking their blood pressure medication as prescribed. So... I bailed on the idea. You might as well propose that George W. Bush run for president again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 What exactly makes the run and shoot the run and shoot?? Whats the difference between run and shoot and say the fun and gun?? Can anyone elaborate more on what it is? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Run_and_shoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgibbs Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 What exactly makes the run and shoot the run and shoot?? Whats the difference between run and shoot and say the fun and gun?? Can anyone elaborate more on what it is? The receivers rarely have set routes. They basically run to where the coverage isn't. Both the quarterback and his receivers have to learn to see the same thing and know what each other is going to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger5 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Former Houston Oiler receiver Ernest Givins said the run & shoot was too complicated for it's own good. Mark Rypien during the Skins' 1991 superbowl run said they used on it a very limited basis and hated it. I think if you have a QB who can run it (Colt) you can still put up good numbers in the NFL. You don't even need stellar receivers. And it wouldn't have to be June Jones coming back to the NFL. Giants Offensive Coordinator Kevin Gilbride is a run & shoot guru from his Houston Oiler days. And from my sig you can probably guess what my favorite offensive scheme is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTC228 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Fire our coach and bring in new players for the system? For a QB who has not thrown 1 NFL pass in the regular season??? I say no no no way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant15fromNJ Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 No but he will run the west coast!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Why wouldwe want too? Colt will never be as great as Warren Moon who ran that offense the best, which resulted in how many titles??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizKauai Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 R&S does not use a TE... Cooley is my homeboy. But I would love to see some instinctive WO's added to give Colt more options. Bess, Grice-Mullins, Jason Rivers, CJ Hawthorne and, yes, a guy from the Cardinals, come to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizKauai Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 The key to JJ's offense was that the play evolved after the defense committed. It was split-second responsive action and hard to defend against. That's why UGA had only one objective in the SB: disable Colt Brennan. Skins Oline will not let that happen. Will it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizKauai Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Oh yeah- two words. Mouse Davis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger5 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Why wouldwe want too?Colt will never be as great as Warren Moon who ran that offense the best, which resulted in how many titles??? Actually, Colt Brennan ran the run & shoot the best - ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger5 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Oh yeah- two words.Mouse Davis two more words: Tiger Ellison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger5 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 I'll simplify it. Think of the run & shoot as "The Force" - it's mysterious, misconstrued and scoffed at by skeptics yet is very powerful. And think of Colt Brennan as it's greatest Jedi Master. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 I'll simplify it. Think of the run & shoot as "The Force" - it's mysterious, misconstrued and scoffed at by skeptics yet is very powerful. And think of Colt Brennan as it's greatest Jedi Master. :notworthy:notworthy:notworthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destructis Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Just remember that no one thought the wildcat offense would ever do anything in the NFL. I know teams only use it a bit of the time, but it doesn't mean it won't work. You can pretty much run any offense in the NFL if you have the appropriate personnel for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgibbs Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Why wouldwe want too?Colt will never be as great as Warren Moon who ran that offense the best, which resulted in how many titles??? Here are some comments June Jones made about Brennan to the Dallas News. You can read the whole article at http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/04/dallas-cowboys-nfl-draft-series-hawaii-q.html EX-HAWAII HEAD COACH JUNE JONES "All you have to do is look at the film [to know the 'system quarterback' label doesn't fit]. The people that are saying that aren't comparing him to other quarterbacks who have played in this system. He's so much more accurate, so much more competitive and so much more of a winner. ... With [ex-Hawaii QB] Timmy Chang, if you would have called me and asked me if he could play in the NFL, my answer would have been no. ... [brennan's] accuracy is that of a Jeff George or Warren Moon. His body type is that of a Chris Miller. His competitiveness is that of a Bobby Hebert. He has all the qualities of a great one. ... He can make every throw. He completed close to 70 percent of his passes. I would say 50 percent of the quarterbacks playing in the NFL can't do that against air. He did it in games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldfan Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 R&S does not use a TE... Cooley is my homeboy. But I would love to see some instinctive WO's added to give Colt more options. Bess, Grice-Mullins, Jason Rivers, CJ Hawthorne and, yes, a guy from the Cardinals, come to mind. How 'bout using those TE types in the double slots rather than those puny WRs? We call it the Power R&S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flycoach Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Absolutely no way to know unless/until he's given a chance. College performance doesn't really mean much. Lot's of Heisman Trophy winners and "good/great" (see Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, etc.) didn't pan out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Did I just wake up in 1989? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE HAMMER'IN HOG Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 If an offense is putting up points then it's DOING IT'S JOB. That's all you can ask it to do. If it doesn't equal a championship then the shortfall is in other areas. I know the Patriots use a spread formation often but that isn't necessarily the run & shoot. The run & shoot is 4 wide receivers on EVERY down (the team doesn't even have a TE on the active roster) with multiple route breaks for each receiver depending on the coverage. So the QB and receivers don't even know what route will be run until after the snap and reading the coverage. If the QB and receivers are making the same reads then the defense is *always* wrong. That's why this offense can put up the points it does. One of the biggest problems with the run and shoot was that it is a quick strike offense, the problem with that is it leaves your defense on the field for most of the game and they wear down and can't stop any body, especially as it gets late into the season. There is a reason Buddy Ryan took a swing at Gilbride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger5 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 One of the biggest problems with the run and shoot was that it is a quick strike offense' date=' the problem with that is it leaves your defense on the field for most of the game and they wear down and can't stop any body, especially as it gets late into the season. There is a reason Buddy Ryan took a swing at Gilbride.[/quote']Lol Buddy Ryan chucked but Gilbride forgot to duck. Nevermind physical assaults on the sideline that was a fun team to watch (they started out 1-4 then won 11 straight) and our best hope for a superbowl (disappointed Oilers fan here). The offense was the original greatest show on turf and Ryan's 46 defense terrorized opposing QBs that is, except Joe Montana The 1999 Rams had a quick strike offense. The 2007 Patriots were a quick strike offense. Give me a quick strike offense any day. If the defense wants to get off the field then do IT's job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emoshag Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 I was thinking the same thing. Only I don't drink, so I just burry my face into my pillow.HTTR Look at my sig to know my feelings on Campbell and Brennan. Start Brennan. I don't care who coaches, who catches or whatever. The dude is just a winner. On a side note. I do drink. And I noticed throughout last season that the Skins games had an unusual amount of sideline camera shots focused on Brennan. So me and a friend decided to play a game of "camera shot of Brennan... take a shot of Petron." Yeah, kinda like a "Cheers to you Colt. They don't know what monster they have on their depth chart." Oh, and the outcome? Seven shots of Petron during the second Cowboys game. So sad. The team we love doesn't field our best players..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizKauai Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 How 'bout using those TE types in the double slots rather than those puny WRs? We call it the Power R&S. I can envision this strategy. As a matter of fact, it might be even more interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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