SkinzFoLife Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 He has 3 this year. Smoot and Carlos have 1 a piece, IF Carlos could catch he would lead the leauge. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=5533 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 thats an interesting stat but not too shocking. he is a ball hawk when he plays hard but the problem isnt his skills. its his heart and dedication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyKilmer Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 he has more then the cowboys as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegadeTK Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 thats an interesting stat but not too shocking. he is a ball hawk when he plays hard but the problem isnt his skills. its his heart and dedication. yeah, im hoping that the big problem in Oakland was his dedication, bc in atlanta he was pretty solid. not a shut-down, but DEFINITELY solid. hopefully he will return to that form once he gets here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyKilmer Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Who gets cut or put on IR for his to go on roster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullnelson9999 Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Who gets cut or put on IR for his to go on roster? Kelly to the IR IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 yeah, im hoping that the big problem in Oakland was his dedication, bc in atlanta he was pretty solid. not a shut-down, but DEFINITELY solid. hopefully he will return to that form once he gets here I hope so. I think we have a solid enough team here that our real captains will set him on a good path and teach him proper work ethic. something he never had in either ATL or OAK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 I think Hall will be good for 3rd down dime packages and could get a few picks in zone defense. You guys do know this is a check/checkmate move to Dallass getting Roy Williams don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLEED-B&G Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Wow....great stat. I wonder what else he has accomplished? "He gave up more yards than any defender this season and was tied for third worst in catches allowed." http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3688600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie5 Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 I don't see a downside. We have top drawer D coaches, London Fletcher & Shawn Springs. If he plays up his skill, it's a great move. Is it a checkmate move re: Roy Williams? To me, it's partially about keeping Hall out of Dallas (who could use him desperately). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLEED-B&G Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 You guys do know this is a check/checkmate move to Dallass getting Roy Williams don't you? Good Call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailGreen28 Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 I don't see a downside. We have top drawer D coaches, London Fletcher & Shawn Springs. If he plays up his skill, it's a great move. Is it a checkmate move re: Roy Williams? To me, it's partially about keeping Hall out of Dallas (who could use him desperately). Surprised that Dallass didn't pick him up. Don't the Pukes have a shot on waivers before we do because of our better record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackdaddydean Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Wow....great stat. I wonder what else he has accomplished?"He gave up more yards than any defender this season and was tied for third worst in catches allowed." http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3688600 I would too if I was doomed to play for the Raiders. Yes, I believe it is THAT bad there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie5 Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Surprised that Dallass didn't pick him up. Don't the Pukes have a shot on waivers before we do because of our better record? But if they'd claimed him, wouldn't they be working under his bloated OAK contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onnie007 Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Wow....great stat. I wonder what else he has accomplished?"He gave up more yards than any defender this season and was tied for third worst in catches allowed." http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3688600 Again, you must scratch the surface before you pass judgment. Oakland is a place where good players rot. Randy Moss is an amazing WR but he played awful out there. Dominic Rhodes spent a year rotting out there. Warren Sapp (a HOFer IMO with the amount of sacks he had from the DT position) rotted out there and walked away from the game because of it. In fact he looks at himself as a Buccaneer not just because of the Super Bowl he won while in Tampa but also so he doesn't have to remember his stint with Oakland. That is just a franchise down in the dumps right now and it can crush even the ambitions of Pro Bowlers. Its a shame because although I am a huge Redskin fan, Tim Brown was my idol because of his talent and how he conducted himself. I'm sure he and Howie Long are not happy with where the franchise is now. D. Hall was playing in a secondary with Nnamdi Asomugha and Gibril Wilson. That secondary should have been top 10 in the league. The Raiders are a black hole right now and nobody wants to be out there. Nobody. I wouldn't be surprised if D. Hall was tanking it on purpose (ala Manny Ramirez and his departure from Boston to L.A.). I expect D. Hall to compete to get on the field and prove he is worthy of another big contract. I would expect that especially because he is coming back to where he grew up which is what inspires most players play exceptional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangSteve Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 And when Carlos drops an int, it's usualy one he can return for a TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siven Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 And when Carlos drops an int, it's usualy one he can return for a TD. it's like a wide receiver thinking about running before he catches the ball, or for me personally, thinking about shooting on goal before i settle the ball in soccer. It's not Rogers hands I don't think, I think it's a concentration issue. Rogers is probably thinking about running it back for a TD before he actually catches it, much like I am thinking about scoring the goal before actually getting my first touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mothmonsterman Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 Surprised that Dallass didn't pick him up. Don't the Pukes have a shot on waivers before we do because of our better record? it's my understanding that whoever picked him up on waivers would have to continue his Oakland contract. that may not actually be true but if not why didnt we pick him up on the waiver instead of waiting for FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21KO Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 thats an interesting stat but not too shocking. he is a ball hawk when he plays hard but the problem isnt his skills. its his heart and dedication. Agreed, but tough to have heart in that craphole, especially with a senile owner. I bet he gets fired up here - especially after we beat DAL & SEA and are 8-3. :logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raub Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 Since 2004, the year he came into the league, Hall has 20 INTs. That's only 3 less than our top 3 CBs combined. Since 2004, Springs has 11, Rogers has 5 and Smoot has 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 I'd rather have a guy who shuts down his opponent but can't catch(Rogers)than a guy who gambles and gets beat regularly while occasionally catching picks(Hall). Still I guess as a #3/4 CB it's not a bad acquisition... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailGreen28 Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 it's my understanding that whoever picked him up on waivers would have to continue his Oakland contract. that may not actually be true but if not why didnt we pick him up on the waiver instead of waiting for FA.Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnhay Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 I'd rather have a guy who shuts down his opponent but can't catch(Rogers)than a guy who gambles and gets beat regularly while occasionally catching picks(Hall).Still I guess as a #3/4 CB it's not a bad acquisition... You guess it's not bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana_Fan Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 Wow....great stat. I wonder what else he has accomplished?"He gave up more yards than any defender this season and was tied for third worst in catches allowed." http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3688600 He now plays with one of the best CB coaches in the league, who can be a good teacher to Hall. Not to mention, we have the #4 defense, something much better than any team he's played on before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepforsantana Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 You guess it's not bad? yeah he should prolly get used to seeing him...i really think were gonna lock him up lock term..i feel like this move was pretty much getting him to wait for springs to be done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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