Koolblue13 Posted October 24, 2008 Author Share Posted October 24, 2008 No, by teaching little children about sex, of course. Don't put words in my mouth please. Last time we talked about this, it came down to you saying "because I like him better" and then I was called out in another thread for not answering you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 24, 2008 Author Share Posted October 24, 2008 If Obama does great, expect Michele Obama to run in 2016. You heard it here first (unless you heard it somewhere else before). That Linda Chenney has a lot of charisma. Could make for quite the cat fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF44 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I just lament the passing of the Republican party from a monetarily conservative party to a values driven fundamentalist party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexey Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Do you believe the government will get smaller under Obama? There is a lot more to this question than bigger vs smaller. Focusing on size and not function leads to making stupid cuts such as killing the Office of Technology Assessment. There is a good chance that it will get smarter. Doing things smarter costs less money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosperity Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I'm excited because the Republicans and Neo-Cons will get trounced. Obama is an afterthought to me. well I'm excited for two reasons: One, I think Obama is an intelligent man with a strong moral back bone (for a politician anyway), this is what I want out of my leader. (something we have been missing for longer than I remember) Two, A landslide victory for the liberals may get the Republicans to reflect and change their strategy. They were an overly nationalistic and frighteningly populist path. This wing of the party has to be reigned in, they make good followers, but once they start dictating policy everybody loses. this country needs a two viable parties. The Republicans may actually do better and learn from their mistakes... hopefully their lesson won't be get slimier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexey Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 accept that naughty tyranny that takes money from one group of citizens in order to benefit from another, all by force. Do not equate having a government to tyranny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexey Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Last time we talked about this, it came down to you saying "because I like him better" and then I was called out in another thread for not answering you. Last time we talked about this you ran away crying like a little girl. Got a link for that quote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubbs Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Do you believe the government will get smaller under Obama? Sadly, our only current choices are "the party that will expand the government" and "the party that will expand the government at a slightly slower rate." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Do not equate having a government to tyranny. I dont, I equate tyranical government with tyranny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 For years in this country we've had socialism for corporations and capitalism for the citizens. Now were talking about extending some of the socialism to the citizens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 For years in this country we've had socialism for corporations and capitalism for the citizens.Now were talking about extending some of the socialism to the citizens. True, both suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexey Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I dont, I equate tyranical government with tyranny Any government falls under the definition if the standard for "tyranny" is "government that takes from one group to benefit another." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Any government falls under the definition if the standard for "tyranny" is "government that takes from one group to benefit another." That is one standard, true, but all governments do not do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandymac27 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Oh what the hell, HECK YEAH!! Bring it on! Anything is better than what we have now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Oh what the hell, HECK YEAH!! Bring it on! Anything is better than what we have now! what we have now is mild socialism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexey Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 That is one standard, true, but all governments do not do this. I am not aware of any government that does not collect taxes, provide services, or have any employees. edit: talking about civilized countries here, not things like tribes in Africa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandymac27 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 what we have now is mild socialism Well, then I guess we need the whole kit and kaboodle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I am not aware of any government that does not collect taxes, provide services, or have any employees.edit: talking about civilized countries here, not things like tribes in Africa. who said that collecting taxes is tyrannical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 24, 2008 Author Share Posted October 24, 2008 well I'm excited for two reasons:One, I think Obama is an intelligent man with a strong moral back bone (for a politician anyway), this is what I want out of my leader. (something we have been missing for longer than I remember) Two, A landslide victory for the liberals may get the Republicans to reflect and change their strategy. They were an overly nationalistic and frighteningly populist path. This wing of the party has to be reigned in, they make good followers, but once they start dictating policy everybody loses. this country needs a two viable parties. The Republicans may actually do better and learn from their mistakes... hopefully their lesson won't be get slimier. I could not disagree with your first point any more, but the second one is dead on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexey Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 who siad that collecting taxes is tyrannical? If you collect taxes, then you are taking from one group to benefit another unless everybody takes exact same advantage of services that you provide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 If you collect taxes, then you are taking from one group to benefit another unless everybody takes exact same advantage of services that you provide. correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 24, 2008 Author Share Posted October 24, 2008 Oh what the hell, HECK YEAH!! Bring it on! Anything is better than what we have now! From the gal who said she was voting Obama because it was "good for the black people".:doh: For years in this country we've had socialism for corporations and capitalism for the citizens.Now were talking about extending some of the socialism to the citizens. Ah, "we"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I'm excited because the Republicans and Neo-Cons will get trounced. Obama is an afterthought to me. Ditto The cultural impact of a black man winning the president excites me as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandymac27 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 From the gal who said she was voting Obama because it was "good for the black people".:doh: Show me. Where did I say that. Put your money where your mouth is.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 24, 2008 Author Share Posted October 24, 2008 Last time we talked about this you ran away crying like a little girl. Got a link for that quote? Insults eh? Nice. You posted two links yesterday. The second didn't work. The first one I answered in THAT thread and then left for a wedding I was in. YOU go find the links. I answered your questions. You are going on gut and opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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