campbell, west coast offense, audibles

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

Last year i complained a ton about the fact that campbell never called audibles. i was told it was because of the way saunders/gibbs offense was run and that audibles just werent part of the scheme (which i find ridiculous considering how helpful they can be if a D reads your formation to a T). my question is do you guys think campbell will be given more free reign regarding audibles this year? i think theyre a very important part of an offense and last year without them was just another piece holding us back.

so in short, will campbell be able to call audibles in this west coast offense?

[downbeat87]

yes he will. i dont have a link to prove it, but im pretty sure at last 90% of the qbs in the league call them at some point.

so in a word, yes.

[skindogger47]

He'll probably have a longer leash than he did under Gibbs.

[ucfSKINS]

I bet with Zorn being a former QB, he knows the value of audibles.

That being said, we probably won't see too much in the first 5 weeks, given the severity of the NFCE road games.

However, I do believe once he becomes more comfortable in the WCO, we will see more.

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

it always seems whenever a QB calls an audible, the play works out more times than not. i remember watching eli calling audibles against us in week 3 last year and just shredding us in the 2nd half. it always bothered me that campbell was so chained and not able to change the play. i mean give the guy 5 plays that hes totally comfortable with and let him call them when he thinks the play thats called is gonna be shelled.

[TK]

Wasn't there a play last year where JC didn't get or couldn't hear the entire play that was called, so he called his own play & it resulted in a TD?

[the krabber]

Wasn't there a play last year where JC didn't get or couldn't hear the entire play that was called, so he called his own play & it resulted in a TD?

That was in '06 against the Panthers. It was the Cooley TD.

[#98QBKiller]

He'll probably have a longer leash than he did under Gibbs.

:fingersx: fingers crossed for that one

[SoCalSkins]

JC was given chances to audible in crucial situations in at least 2 games last year. Each time he refused to put the ball in his own hands. You can't play scared and succeed.

Against Philly on a 3rd down at the end of the game JC called a draw to Portis instead of a pass. Eagles stop us and we lose. He had a similar situation aginst another team last year as well. Might have been Giants or Tampa.

[corrupt3d]

JC was given chances to audible in crucial situations in at least 2 games last year. Each time he refused to put the ball in his own hands. You can't play scared and succeed.

Against Philly on a 3rd down at the end of the game JC called a draw to Portis instead of a pass. Eagles stop us and we lose. He had a similar situation aginst another team last year as well. Might have been Giants or Tampa.

That's false. In Dallas, he was told that if the defense had eight in the box, to pass and if they didnt, than to do a draw play. He's been given chances to change plays, but only according to how the coaches deemed them fit.

I expect, with Hasselbeck calling a decent amount of audibles, JC will be given the chance.

[IbleedBnG83]

I recall hearing that he was the one calling plays in the hurry up offense, and he ran those well...untill throwing a couple of ints:(

[SkipJackSkin]

He'll get more freedom. Hopefully resulting in better performance and more TD's!

[the krabber]

I recall hearing that he was the one calling plays in the hurry up offense, and he ran those well...untill throwing a couple of ints:(

Which will hopefully be fixed by having more than one legitimate red zone target .

[GSF]

Zorn used to call a lot of his own plays back in his playing days. Don't know if that means anything now. I would assume the more experienced JC becomes the more he'll do those kinds of things.

[SkipJackSkin]

Zorn used to call a lot of his own plays back in his playing days. Don't know if that means anything now. I would assume the more experienced JC becomes the more he'll do those kinds of things.

Right. First Zorn probably wants to make sure he can trust JC.

[HailSkinz1]

The deal is that JC cannot read defenses so Gibbs and Saunders didn't want him to audible because that requires the ability to read defenses. As the season progressed and they became more confortable with JC, he was given more freedom, especially with the hurry up (when defenses cannot switch and disguise coverages). The only reason a coach would not allow a QB to audible is if the coach does not have confidence in the QB.

If JC proves that he can read defenses, I'm sure Zorn will let him audible.

Hail,

H

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

Wasn't there a play last year where JC didn't get or couldn't hear the entire play that was called, so he called his own play & it resulted in a TD?

thats hardly an audible. thats a bizare technical problem that resulted in a great play. im talking about where campbell knows the play called, walks to the LOS, realizes it wont work, calls his own play, and executes it.

[SkipJackSkin]

The deal is that JC cannot read defenses so Gibbs and Saunders didn't want him to audible because that requires the ability to read defenses. As the season progressed and they became more confortable with JC, he was given more freedom, especially with the hurry up (when defenses cannot switch and disguise coverages). The only reason a coach would not allow a QB to audible is if the coach does not have confidence in the QB.

If JC proves that he can read defenses, I'm sure Zorn will let him audible.

Hail,

H

Exactly. Like I just said, Zorn needs to know that he can trust him.

[Antwaan Randle El Nino]

steamin' willie beamon called audibles for himself all the time and it made al pacino mad.

its tough for a young qb to call audibles, but i think hes about ready to take over more and starting calling them. more importantly, he has better personnel out there with him to make more options and more audibles work.

[elkabong82]

I think JC will have a set of audibles to choose from, and that set will expand as he does better in the WCO. He definitely will be able to call audibles, in a WCO you really need to be allowed to do that.

And Jason shouldn't have a problem with it either. Remember last season JC ran the "no huddle" offense very well, and during those stretches he called some plays himself given the strain on time.

Calling audibles also means the QB has to have a very good understanding of the offense he is running, otherwise the play won't do anything. So I would imagine teaching those audibles and letting JC call them when the opportune moment comes, will only help advance JC's learning and understanding in the WCO.

[Antwaan Randle El Nino]

I think JC will have a set of audibles to choose from, and that set will expand as he does better in the WCO. He definitely will be able to call audibles, in a WCO you really need to be allowed to do that.

And Jason shouldn't have a problem with it either. Remember last season JC ran the "no huddle" offense very well, and during those stretches he called some plays himself given the strain on time.

Calling audibles also means the QB has to have a very good understanding of the offense he is running, otherwise the play won't do anything. So I would imagine teaching those audibles and letting JC call them when the opportune moment comes, will only help advance JC's learning and understanding in the WCO.

I definitley agree, he was great in the no huddle.. and now maybe he can call the plays inside the 5 yard line to on occasion rather than having him get them down field on the no huddle then have the coach call the shots inside the five, resulting in the same play 3 times in a row...

[elkabong82]

thats hardly an audible. thats a bizare technical problem that resulted in a great play. im talking about where campbell knows the play called, walks to the LOS, realizes it wont work, calls his own play, and executes it.

I do think he started doing that as the season progressed. He did make adjustments before the snap more frequently as the season went on, sending WRs to the other side of the line, etc. I don't remember Collins calling a ton of audibles either though, but maybe that's the system or the fact TC only played in 5 games. I'm not really sure.

What I do know is that JC's success in the no huddle offense should definitely show that he could do well calling audibles. And given Zorn is a QB specialist, he probably is already working with JC on that stuff, or will soon.

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

I do think he started doing that as the season progressed. He did make adjustments before the snap more frequently as the season went on, sending WRs to the other side of the line, etc. I don't remember Collins calling a ton of audibles either though, but maybe that's the system or the fact TC only played in 5 games. I'm not really sure.

What I do know is that JC's success in the no huddle offense should definitely show that he could do well calling audibles. And given Zorn is a QB specialist, he probably is already working with JC on that stuff, or will soon.

right, and collins didnt either because i think part of the system was not calling audibles (which personally i find insane, but oh well, its over and done with). but hopefully we see some of that this year.

[Antwaan Randle El Nino]

right, and collins didnt either because i think part of the system was not calling audibles (which personally i find insane, but oh well, its over and done with). but hopefully we see some of that this year.

i am too young to know, but can someone else tell me if there were few audibles in Gibbs I? i wonder if JC couldn't cause he was young, or if Gibbs just never liked audibles. did williams, rypien, theismann, schroeder etc call audibles very much or was it rare? just curious.

[CM916]

There was a certain play, during the one game I attended that we actually won in '06, where Cooley ran until he almost ran out of gas to get the long TD and seal the victory over the Panthers. Only later did I learn that Campbell's radio broke down and he had to call that play on his own. I like the idea of him calling audibles.