The_cavalierman Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 By Jim Rutenberg, Marilyn W. Thompson, David. D. Kirkpatrick and Stephen Labaton WASHINGTON - Early in Senator John McCain’s first run for the White House eight years ago, waves of anxiety swept through his small circle of advisers. A female lobbyist had been turning up with him at fund-raisers, in his offices and aboard a client’s corporate jet. Convinced the relationship had become romantic, some of his top advisers intervened to protect the candidate from himself — instructing staff members to block the woman’s access, privately warning her away and repeatedly confronting him, several people involved in the campaign said on the condition of anonymity. When news organizations reported that Mr. McCain had written letters to government regulators on behalf of the lobbyist’s clients, the former campaign associates said, some aides feared for a time that attention would fall on her involvement. Click here for the rest of the story What does this mean for the straight talk express? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I hate these types of politics. Doing stuff like this is wrong. But, its also not something I put high on my list. Its nowhere near the level of not putting your hand over your heart during the SSB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_cavalierman Posted February 21, 2008 Author Share Posted February 21, 2008 I think McCain's sins are gonna come back to haunt him. It is going to be interesting to see how republicans deal with swiftboat tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I saw her on CNN this morning. I'd hit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie4redskins Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I saw her on CNN this morning. I'd hit it. Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81artmonk Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Doesn't anyone find this odd that the Times would endorse McCain and basically be his cheering section for years and than sit on this story while they were endorsing him, than attack him like this now?? Something stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 2nd thread today: Also, its based on nothing, with 2 unknown sources and was the prosecutor that was trying this couldn't find anything. Also i believe he voted against her lobbying firm twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_cavalierman Posted February 21, 2008 Author Share Posted February 21, 2008 Doesn't anyone find this odd that the Times would endorse McCain and basically be his cheering section for years and than sit on this story while they were endorsing him, than attack him like this now??Something stinks. It's called balance... Just because a paper endorses you does not mean they wont clean your clock when/if you screw up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmySmith Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 This article is a total hatchet job. Scraping the bottom of the bowl for any perceived impropriety. 8 years back, both deny anything happened, none of the so-called sources even say anything happened. Where's the story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_cavalierman Posted February 21, 2008 Author Share Posted February 21, 2008 I saw her on CNN this morning. I'd hit it. If McCain tries to hit it....instant dirt nap She is a heart attack waiting to happen for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinInsite Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Is this like the story about McCain fathering a black baby the Bush people made up in South Carolina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 If McCain tries to hit it....instant dirt napShe is a heart attack waiting to happen for him That's probably the only truth in this whole story. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Is this like the story about McCain fathering a black baby the Bush people made up in South Carolina.I thought that was Bill Clinton, not McCain?Oh wait, I'm thinking of the movie Primary Colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helptheSKINS Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I think McCain's sins are gonna come back to haunt him. It is going to be interesting to see how republicans deal with swiftboat tactics. Do you ever care about having proof before bashing someone? The vast majority of the posters here know what you are about. Please tell what his sins are since you assume he has so many. Tell me, will the democratic nominee also suffer from this? I haven't seen any posts from you about that (ever). You are exactly the type of person papers like the NYT's count on. You will bite at anything. I'm sure if someone wrote something about you or your family with ZERO evidence you would change your tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Someone let me know when the NYTs actually makes an allegation and backs it with something. At this point it's tabloid journalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_cavalierman Posted February 21, 2008 Author Share Posted February 21, 2008 Do you ever care about having proof before bashing someone? The vast majority of the posters here know what you are about. Please tell what his sins are since you assume he has so many. Tell me, will the democratic nominee also suffer from this? I haven't seen any posts from you about that (ever). You are exactly the type of person papers like the NYT's count on. You will bite at anything. I'm sure if someone wrote something about you or your family with ZERO evidence you would change your tune. Yeah because I am always short on links:rolleyes: 1. McCain Corruption 2. McCain Corruption 3. I have more but I'll allow you some time to come up with vigorous denials for the first three. If you have a problem with the New York Times then take it up with them. Apparently they are sticking with their version of the facts and their lawyers are ready should McCain pursue a legal course of action. Thus far McCain's camp is silent.....Hmmmmmmm:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpyaks3 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Do you ever care about having proof before bashing someone? The vast majority of the posters here know what you are about. Please tell what his sins are since you assume he has so many. Tell me, will the democratic nominee also suffer from this? I haven't seen any posts from you about that (ever). You are exactly the type of person papers like the NYT's count on. You will bite at anything. I'm sure if someone wrote something about you or your family with ZERO evidence you would change your tune. Being part of the Keating Five. The only way this story will have any impact is if it is shown that he did her any special favors being a lobbyist. This is in stark contrast to his "turnaround" on special interest groups following the Keating Five. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helptheSKINS Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Yeah because I am always short on links:rolleyes: 1. McCain Corruption 2. McCain Corruption 3. I have more but I'll allow you some time to come up with vigorous denials for the first three. If you have a problem with the New York Times then take it up with them. Apparently they are sticking with their version of the facts and their lawyers are ready should McCain pursue a legal course of action. Thus far McCain's camp is silent.....Hmmmmmmm:D Wow, this was pathetic. Tell me again where the facts are. I'm not seeing it here. Seriously, where are the facts? You have nothing. You're not helping your image here. Not hurting either I guess :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMK9973 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 This was a shot across the bow. I think this is a non story. I also think this is the democrats sending a warning to Repubs. "We are going to get as dirty as you. We are not going lay back and let you "Swift boat" our candidate again. We will came at you with every baseless rumor, just like you have". I think this story has as much legs as the "Obama is a Muslim" story. Just like repubs on this board say "Well - I don't have a issue with it. But many think Obama is a Muslim due to his ties...." Dems will start saying "I don't think it's a story. But many think McCain might not be as honest due to the rumors..." I'm hoping the campaign doesn't get nasty. But if 529's start popping up pushing baseless rumors about the dem, you bet your *** I hope they hit back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 This was a shot accross the bow. I think this is a non story. I also think this is the democrats sending a warning to Repubs. "We are going to get as dirty as you. We are not going lay back and let you "Swift boat" our canidate again. We will came at you with every basesless rumor, just like you have". I think this story has as much legs as the "Obama is a Muslim" story. Just like repubs on this board say "Well - I don't have a issue with it. But many think Obama is a muslim due to his ties...." Dems will start saying "I don't think it's a story. But many think McCain might not be as honest due to the rummors..." I'm hoping the campign doesn't get nasty. But if 529's start popping up pushing baseless rumors about the dem, you bet your *** I hope they hit back. When it comes to politics, the Golden Rule definitely gets thrown right out the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefhogskin48 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 The_Cavalier, you are becoming just another Rush Limbaugh of the left. Where's the beef? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMK9973 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 When it comes to politics, the Golden Rule definitely gets thrown right out the window. The challenge is that while American say they hate negative advertising, and saw they would rather discuss issues. They respond very well to negative advertising. So therefore the guy who tries to stay above it, and doesn't respond, is the one that actually is punished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 The challenge is that while American say they hate negative advertising, and saw they would rather discuss issues. They respond very well to negative advertising. So therefore the guy who tries to stay above it, and doesn't respond, is the one that actually is punished. True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air Force Cane Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 it is backfiring as the conservative media is now taking JMac's side and donations are flowing in. McCain and the RNC are already sending out emails slamming the Times and asking for money.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_cavalierman Posted February 21, 2008 Author Share Posted February 21, 2008 Wow, this was pathetic. Tell me again where the facts are. I'm not seeing it here. Seriously, where are the facts? You have nothing. You're not helping your image here. Not hurting either I guess :laugh: :laugh: You do realize that many of the swift boaters that accused Kerry have since recanted their accusations... So since when has the truth been important to republicans??? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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