JoeWolf990 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Lara beat Paul Williams ass, but he lost the fight on the cards (dodgy scoring, I know). THats not a win. Lara is a nobody. Why doesnt Manny fight Lara? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexx1240 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 And people always use the "cold war" copout. I thought Mayweather was his own boss and he and he alone decides who he fights. Just because the man is his own boss doesn't mean he can sit at the table and negotiate a contract with his shadow. It takes two to tango. Plus Manny and Bradley have inked a date for 4/12 which takes them off the table for 5/3. Maybe this can be re-visited in Sept; however, I wouldn't hold my breath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Lara's a nobody? He might not be famous, but he's not a nobody. If he's a nobody, then I guess Alvarez was a nobody. Also, Pacquiao fights all his fights at 147. Mayweather has a belt at 154. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWolf990 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Manny fought and won a 154 fight when he beat Margarito. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 How many years ago was that? Floyd just beat Alvarez in Sept at 152 I believe.and he holds a title at 154. Come on, you all know this is bush what Floyd is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
520skins Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Lmao i find it amusing that u guys still entertain arguing w dm72. Dudes the BIGGEST mayweather hater n pac nut swinger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Anybody who criticize somebody is obviously a hater. The word hater has really gotten old. Unlike you, I'm a real boxing fan that I don't really have a dog in the Pac/May rivalry. I want to see the best fights. And you call me a nut swinger? Are the people who back May nut swingers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) Manny fought and won a 154 fight when he beat Margarito. That fight was a 150lb catchweight bout. Edited February 3, 2014 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWolf990 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 That fight was a 150lb catchweight bout.Im well aware it was a catchweight 150lb bout, but DM72 despises Mayweather and is saying he should stay at 154 because he just beat Alvarez. I am making hte same case for Manny, and he decided to deflect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWolf990 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 The word hater has really gotten old. Unlike you, I'm a real boxing fan that I don't really have a dog in the Pac/May rivalry.stop lying. Every post on this topic shows you have a clear dog in this discussion. We arent stupid. I want to see the best fights.yet you also criticized Floyd and Goldenboy for doing that with their undercards and applauded Pacquaio for not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) stop lying. Every post on this topic shows you have a clear dog in this discussion. We arent stupid. yet you also criticized Floyd and Goldenboy for doing that with their undercards and applauded Pacquaio for not. No, I'm not up his backside like you. I happen to know BS when I see it. You're running your mouth and don't even know what you're talking about. I actually like the loaded undercards GB presents. TR should do the same. My only gripe is when ya boy Floyd tries to take all the credit when the PPV does well. Let him be on a PPV that's not stacked and we'll see just how much of a PPV star he really is. Pacquiao, for the most part, has to sell his PPV's all by himself. I honestly think TR is stupid for not putting a fight like Mikey Garcia vs Gamoa on the undercard of Pac/Bradley. Arum says, "nobody cares about the undercard." True, if you continue to put on crappy undercards. And you act as if YOU don't have a dog in this discussion. Please. Im well aware it was a catchweight 150lb bout, but DM72 despises Mayweather and is saying he should stay at 154 because he just beat Alvarez. I am making hte same case for Manny, and he decided to deflect. And where did I ever say that Floyd should stay at 154? I said he should/could fight Lara at 154. And he is a champion at 154. You wanna discuss that? Does Pacquiao own a title at 154? If he did, I'd say the exact samething. But he doesn't, nor has he ever fought at 154. So saying Pacquiao should go up to 154 at this stage is ridiculous. Edited February 4, 2014 by DM72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) No, I'm not up his backside like you. I happen to know BS when I see it. You're running your mouth and don't even know what you're talking about. I actually like the loaded undercards GB presents. TR should do the same. My only gripe is when ya boy Floyd tries to take all the credit when the PPV does well. Let him be on a PPV that's not stacked and we'll see just how much of a PPV star he really is. Pacquiao, for the most part, has to sell his PPV's all by himself. I honestly think TR is stupid for not putting a fight like Mikey Garcia vs Gamoa on the undercard of Pac/Bradley. Arum says, "nobody cares about the undercard." True, if you continue to put on crappy undercards. Stacked undercards are a relatively new invention, promoters only started to get concerned about it within the last year or two. Mayweather & Pacquiao have sold PPV's with ****ty undercards multiple times. The fact of the matter is the undercard doesn't move the PPV needle. Its more of a way for boxing promoters to give something back to fans who will shell out the PPV money. Mayweather/Canelo still would have done well over 2mil buys without Garcia/Matthysse as a co-headline. When Bob Arum says over 90% of the people buying ppv's don't care about the undercard, he's largely right. That fact does not mean it should be ignored. Boxing fans don't expect to get something as good as Garcia/Matthysse every time out, but we should get more than a squash match for the promoters next rising star. Edited February 4, 2014 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) Stacked undercards are a relatively new invention, promoters only started to get concerned about it within the last year or two. Mayweather & Pacquiao have sold PPV's with ****ty undercards multiple times. The fact of the matter is the undercard doesn't move the PPV needle. Its more of a way for boxing promoters to give something back to fans who will shell out the PPV money. Mayweather/Canelo still would have done well over 2mil buys without Garcia/Matthysse as a co-headline. When Bob Arum says over 90% of the people buying ppv's don't care about the undercard, he's largely right. That fact does not mean it should be ignored. Boxing fans don't expect to get something as good as Garcia/Matthysse every time out, but we should get more than a squash match for the promoters next rising star. I was just thinking about this and you're right, Bob Arum has a point. I get PPV's all the time and people don't start arriving until the main event. Even with the stacked PPV of May/Alvarez, guest didn't arrive until the main event. And you're absolutely right, May/Alvarez would have done great business no matter what the undercard was. But let May/Khan not have a stacked undercard. I'd be surprised if Broner's not on the undercard. If Mayweather does choose Khan, I'd also be surprised if Broner/Maidana II isn't the co-feature. Edited February 4, 2014 by DM72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Still a chance that Maidana gets that fight with Mayweather. Mayweather opened up a poll to see who his fans wanted him to fight, Maidana is killing Khan in the voting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I said it once and I'll say it again. Floyd is VERY calculating. Follow me. Floyd made this poll knowing good and well who most fans would want him to fight. On the surface, Maidana is the obvious choice AND he's more deserving. BUT(and I've been thinking about this), Khan would be the tougher fight and Floyd knows it. I admit, I already said I don't want to see May/Khan because Khan simply doesn't deserve it. He's 2-2 in his last 4 fights. IMO May/Maidana would be no different than May/Alvarez. Floyd will have no problems outpointing Maidana to a relatively easy decision. a lot of people would be waiting for Maidana to land a big punch that will never come. Khan on the otherhand, for all the gripe we give him, does have hand speed. And Floyd has had trouble with guys that have good hand speed, particularly in the early rounds. Still, I believe Floyd would beat Khan relatively easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) May beats Khan & Maidana easy IMO, but it happens in different ways. Khan has the technical skills & handspeed to potentially bother Mayweather, but he lacks the fight IQ to carry out a gameplan against someone as crafty as Mayweather. If Garcia and Julio Diaz found their timing pretty easy against Khan, Floyd would have him frustrated and flustered inside of 3 rounds. Khan's porous defense and lack of chin could result in a rare KO above 135 for Floyd. Maidana has power to damage if he were able to hit Floyd clean, but thats a tall task. Mayweather probably looks better offensively against Maidana because he lacks the lateral movement which would allow Floyd to unleash some counter combos instead of his usual one/two reset action. Maidana's been dropped before, but I don't think Floyd could hurt him as bad as he could Khan. I do think Floyd could get a stoppage through the ref or Maidana's corner late in the fight. I would rather see Maidana get the fight simply because he's done more to earn it. Even though Khan holds a legit win over Maidana, I absolutely hate the way Khan has gone about positioning himself for a fight with Floyd. It makes complete sense from his perspective, but I don't have to like it, and I don't. Edited February 4, 2014 by StillUnknown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexx1240 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 VIDEO Floyd Sr training another young Mayweather: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexx1240 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I have a question and anyone with any knowledge of the situation please feel free to answer: With the Pac-Bradley contract for the 4/12/14 date having already been signed by both fighters (including the signing of a Top Rank contract extension for Bradley), tour dates already set, promotion already fully underway, and the actual fight only 2 months away, WHY IN THE WORLD ARE THERE STILL NEGOTIATIONS ONGOING FOR DRUG TESTING?? I just don't understand how this makes any sense, help please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexx1240 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Even though we all knew, it's official as of today: http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/latest/news/dreams-can-come-true-for-amir-khan-as-he-beats-marcos-maidana-in-race-to-fight-floyd-mayweather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Not official yet. But it's funny that Khan would have lost this poll if he didn't tell his fans about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexx1240 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Not official yet. But it's funny that Khan would have lost this poll if he didn't tell his fans about it. Khan currently with 60% and voting done today, it's official buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Khan currently with 60% and voting done today, it's official buddy. Until Floyd and Golden Boy announces it, it's not official. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I wonder how much Khan paid that army of kids to spam the vote........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConcordNCSkinsFan Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Please let Khan get the fight. I don't want to see Mayweather run circles around another flat footed puncher like Maidana for a boring 12 round snoozefest. At least Khan would bring a different dynamic as an Mayweather opponent and Floyd might actually get a spectacular knockout which hasn't happened since Ricky Hatton (of course I don't consider the Ortiz BS a real knockout). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexx1240 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/319037-mike-alvarado-agrees-to-may-17-juan-manuel-marquez-bout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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