ACW Posted July 25, 2008 Author Share Posted July 25, 2008 http://www.youcastr.com/casts/archive/digital25-boxing-along-the-beltway-batb-news-and-commentary-7-24-08 Digital thinks Paschall has a sweet deal: -National TV debut on a pay cable network, on the biggest show on that network -Gets huge payday -No-lose: if he loses, it's expected (if he even shows well, he'll get more TV bouts) -If he wins, household boxing name and possible Top 10 or at least Top 15 fighter in the world BTW, Digital's blog is approaching it's 3-year anniversary :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Bait Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 I think Oscar will choose Pacquiao because it'll be an easier fight they would fight at 147? That is too large of a jump for Pacquiao....he just moved up to 135 recently...I think he should stay there for a while. I would like to see Oscar fight Paul Williams and the winner of that fight the winner of Saturday's fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 they would fight at 147? That is too large of a jump for Pacquiao....he just moved up to 135 recently...I think he should stay there for a while. I would like to see Oscar fight Paul Williams and the winner of that fight the winner of Saturday's fight they would fight at 147. Freddie Roach has gone on record saying that Pacquiao can hurt and KO Oscar at 147. Pacquiao believes in Freddie Roach. Oscar only has 1 fight left and Paul Williams isn't the biggest possible fight to be made. just my opinion, but i think Oscar has narrowed his choices to Pacquiao or the winner of saturday's fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Bait Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 they would fight at 147. Freddie Roach has gone on record saying that Pacquiao can hurt and KO Oscar at 147. Pacquiao believes in Freddie Roach. Pacquiao would have to out box Oscar and he would have to be the much quicker man. I'm not so sure Pac-man would be too much quicker than Oscar at 147....I'd like to see the fight though! That fight would probably be the biggest money making fight in history....Pac-man and Oscar have two of the biggest followings in boxing. just my opinion, but i think Oscar has narrowed his choices to Pacquiao or the winner of saturday's fight I think you are right....more than likely will be Cotto another chapter of Mexico vs. Puerto Rico! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Pacquiao would have to out box Oscar and he would have to be the much quicker man. I'm not so sure Pac-man would be too much quicker than Oscar at 147....I'd like to see the fight though! That fight would probably be the biggest money making fight in history....Pac-man and Oscar have two of the biggest followings in boxing.I think you are right....more than likely will be Cotto another chapter of Mexico vs. Puerto Rico! i've gone back and forth on saturday's fight, but i've settled on Margarito by late round TKO. no real rhyme or reason to it. pretty evenly matched fight, but i'm thinking even though Cotto is the better boxer, his lack of head movement against Margarito's power shots may present a problem late in the fight. then again, i don't think Margarito has ever faced the type of barrage to the body he could see against Cotto. i can see either winning the fight in spectacular, but i'm riding with Margarito as my official prediction.:2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReaper21 Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 ACW, I saw the Casamayor Santa Cruz fight and it was indeed a robbery!! Not even close. Don't get so caught up on the alphabet titles. They're meaningless. Immerse yourself in the ring rankings if you dont already do so. Those are the true champs and the only champions anyone true boxing fan recognizes. If people stop recognizing those terrible organizations, they will have less credibility. http://thering-online.com/ringpages/ratings2.html Also, Direll is going to smoke Paschall, and Direll isn't even in the top 10 at 168. Taylor-Lacy is a go for Nov. 15. http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/notebook?page=notebook/boxingjuly25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted July 25, 2008 Author Share Posted July 25, 2008 21, I know about the Ring rankings. If I had total power, besides reducing the number of weight classes, I'd have the Ring rank the contenders and use THOSE. How the hell can a boxer (e.g. Pacquiao) be ranked in more than one weight class though? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 I've got Cotto tomorrow...I'm thinking 8th round. By the way Finkle....Jeff Lacy? After the way Calzaghe handled him, I don't know if I'll ever take him seriously, unless that was just a bad night. I agree that Jermaine Taylor would probably bust him up inside of 6 rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReaper21 Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 ACW, Pacman is ranked in two weight classes because he's the champ at 130 and ranked at 135. Thats whats great about the ring, they dont strip champs, so when Pacman vacates, he'll be ranked at only 135. Also, Calzaghe is the champ at both 168 and 175. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted July 25, 2008 Author Share Posted July 25, 2008 I still don't get it. Regardless of which of the Big 4 it is, it's not possible to be a champ of more than one class? :confused::confused::confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReaper21 Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 No, we're not talking about the big 4, bc "the big 4" is a big joke. All boxing writers, myself included, consider them a joke as they have ridiculous madatories and are just in it to make a buck. The Ring champs are the true champs, because there are no sanctioning fees and everyone is rated. Whereas in the "big 4", they don't rate champs of each organization. Champ means one and only CHAMP. there can't be four champs. So, Calzaghe can defend the light heavyweight title, which he is against roy jones jr on Nov. 8 and then defend the super middleweight title against Pavlik next year, which he is also expected to do. I know this stuff is really complicated, a big reason boxing isn't as big as it used to be. Any questions let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted July 25, 2008 Author Share Posted July 25, 2008 No, we're not talking about the big 4, bc "the big 4" is a big joke. All boxing writers, myself included, consider them a joke as they have ridiculous madatories and are just in it to make a buck. The Ring champs are the true champs, because there are no sanctioning fees and everyone is rated. Whereas in the "big 4", they don't rate champs of each organization. Champ means one and only CHAMP. there can't be four champs. So, Calzaghe can defend the light heavyweight title, which he is against roy jones jr on Nov. 8 and then defend the super middleweight title against Pavlik next year, which he is also expected to do. I know this stuff is really complicated, a big reason boxing isn't as big as it used to be. Any questions let me know. He can do that? Huh, interesting. Oh wait, I get it; so if, say (unrealistic I know), Pacquiao moved up to heavyweight, he could be both super featherweight champ and heavyweight champ? Weird.You're a boxing writer? For what? Thanks EDIT: Question though: would one of the Big 4 have to saction the fights w/ RJJ and Ghost since they're different weight classes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReaper21 Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 I write for secondsout.com and am covering the fight at Ibiza on August 7th, that Digital will be at. And yes, theoretically Pacman could be both. Now, it's not needed for any of those corrupt organizations to sanction any fight, it will still be for a world title. For example, a few years ago, Tarver and Johnson were the two best light heavyweights in the division. Tarver had the WBC title and Johnson the IBF and WBA. Something like that. They wanted to fight each other, but the WBC said that Tarver had to fight the no. 1 contender, as rated by the WBC, which of course was some bum. Ditto for Johnson with the WBA, another bum. So both said, screw it, threw their titles in the trash can, literally, and went on to fight each other. They were both stripped of their titles, and the highest rated bums fought for the fragmented titles. And Johnson beat Tarver and he was THE LIGHTHEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD!! And he was considered as such. As such, he held the ring title. So he is the lineal champ so to speak. Roy Jones was the champ for so long, Tarver beat Roy, Johnson beat Tarver, Tarver beat Johnson in the rematch, Hopkins beat Tarver, and then Calzaghe beat Hopkins. So Calzaghe is THE CHAMP. Yet he doesn't own a single light heavy belt by one of those corrupt sanctioning bodies, he does hold the prestigious ring magazine title. ESPN only recognizes the ring rankings. I realize it can be confusing, I have been a diehard boxing fan since 2001 and now write for the sport and have attended dozens of big time fights in the Garden and Atlantic City. I didn't realize about all this crap for about 2 years, as it is really confusing and turns many a fan off to the spot. Any more questions feel free to ask... By the way, I see you live in Arlington, what are you doing for the fight tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReaper21 Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Sorry, also, if Pavlik and Jones fought, they would have to fight at the same weight, or as contracted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted July 26, 2008 Author Share Posted July 26, 2008 Thanks for the explanation I get it now (of course, if you had said theoretically said Pacman COULDN'T be both I'd be REALLY confused). As for tonight's fight, I probably WOULD see it at Bailey's, except my dad and I are seeing the Eagles tonight at Verizon Center. BTW, I'm probably also going to the card at Ibiza ("Dis-com-bob-u-lating" Jones is the ring announcer; cool guy, and his book his really good). We'll have to meet up if I go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sith lord Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 I'm at a lost for words. Here we have what could pontentially be the fight of the year with Cotto and Margarito and everyone's talking Jones, Pavlic and Pacman. Unlike most PPV fights, this one actually might live up to the hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted July 26, 2008 Author Share Posted July 26, 2008 All I know is, Big 4 and such be damned, if Margarito wins, Punisher deserves the first shot (after a possible rematch). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 All I know is, Big 4 and such be damned, if Margarito wins, Punisher deserves the first shot (after a possible rematch). if Margarito wins, i'm fairly certain Punisher will get the first shot. Margarito won't see as many PPV's as Pacquiao so i'm thinking Oscar will go that route if Marg wins. add on to the fact that Margarito probably wants some redemption for that loss to Williams, it adds up to that being the next fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReaper21 Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 pumped for tonights fight, i'm so sick of virginia though, no sports bars show big boxing fights on ppv, only ufc fights...in new york, no one really gives a crap about ufc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjcdaman Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Unlike most PPV fights, this one actually might live up to the hype. Totally agree. Can anyone please give me a SopCast channel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scskin Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 bump for sopcast channel??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metskins Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Is there a UFC fight on tonight? To go up against the EliteXC stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Cotto is outboxing Margarito while moving backwards. the clean punches are clearly the difference right now. the judging may end up funny though because Cotto is doing alot of backtracking with Margarito constantly coming forward on another note Jim Lampley is firmly attached to the nuts of Cotto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Margarito is taking over the 2nd half of this fight, all the early pressure seems to be getting to Cotto. very close fight going into the 10th round Lampley still refuses to let go of Cotto's nuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Cotto dropped to knee in the 11th, he looks dead in the ring edit: Margarito wins by TKO in the 11th. Cotto was ahead early, Margarito punished him late Cotto hit him with bombs early, Margarito walked through them official scorecards had Margarito up on two cards and even on the third at the time of the stoppage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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