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take a gander: heres all QB "busts" from the 1st round from 2000-2005, and how much "patience" they got:

David Carr (2002): 75 starts, 22-53 record

Joey Harrington (2002): 55 starts, 18-37 record

Patrick Ramsey (2002): 23 starts, 9-14 record

Byron Leftwich (2003): 44 starts, 24-20 record

Kyle Boler (2003): 42 starts, 20-22 record

Rex Grossman (2003): 31 starts, 19-12 record

JP Losman (2004): 33 starts, 10-23 record

Alex Smith (2005): 35 starts, 13-22 record

Jason Campbell (2005): 46 starts, 18-28 record

only two guys got more starts than campbell did, harrington and carr, both were abysmal failures. campbell will end up with 51 starts and a record close to joey harrington. yet this is the guy some of you want to keep around and build around? thats not even funny.

I never advocated building around JC. That's your hate thinking that because I defend him that I think he is the answer.

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Not to mention that Harrington got his starts in 2-3 different cities (unless you just pulled his stats with Detroit).

thats just with detroit. i only did guys on their original teams. they let him hang around for awhile. i guess they figured starting harrington ensured them a top 3 draft pick?

maybe thats what vinny is trying to do? lol

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so, youre saying:

we shouldnt build around him.

hes not the answer

is this right?

I'm saying that he is not the main/only problem and that we don't know what he can do because the rest of the offense sucks too. The only person that gave 110 percent game in and game out (Cooley) regularly got the ball.

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I'm saying that he is not the main/only problem and that we don't know what he can do because the rest of the offense sucks too. The only person that gave 110 percent game in and game out (Cooley) regularly got the ball.

so after 46 starts, you still dont know what campbell is capable of? were going on half a decade and you still think there might be an NFL QB in there?

he'll never be in a perfect situation. no QB ever is. its impossible to have a perfect situation on either side of the ball. campbell has been given so many weapons, so much time, so much coaching, and he still sucks.

if you cant see that by now, youre just refusing to look.

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Letting teams hang around is on the coaches as well as the players. The Redskins are notorious for getting leads and then running the ball to try to outlast their opponent.

Only with Campbell.

Since he has been on the team:

Campell: 2 for 47 winning by more than 1 score. 4.25% of the time

Brunell: 6 for 24 winning by more than 1 score. 25% of the time.

Collins: 3 for 3 winning by more than 1 score.100% of the time.

The only one notorious is JC.

Scoring over 30 is similar:

Campell: 2 for 47 scoring over 30. 4.25% of the time. (including a safety and pick 6 against Detroit to put it over 30)

Brunell: 7 for 24 scoring over 30. 29.17% of the time.

Collins: 1 for 3 scoring over 30. 33.33% of the time.

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Where do you guys get this five year crap from? He didn't start until 06.

:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:

Last year people posted where do you get this 4 year crap from?

The year before people posted where do you get this 3year crap from?

and so on.

Does it matter? Not in the least. He has not improved with each year in terms of wins.

He is the same loser he was in 2006. Around a .400 losing percentage.

An extra year in the games or on the bench make no difference. He is always the same.

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:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:

Last year people posted where do you get this 4 year crap from?

The year before people posted where do you get this 3year crap from?

and so on.

Does it matter? Not in the least. He has not improved with each year in terms of wins.

He is the same loser he was in 2006. Around a .400 losing percentage.

An extra year in the games or on the bench make no difference. He is always the same.

Of course it matters, if people can't even get that right about him, what makes them so right about everything else? Hell, why not make it six or seven years?

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Of course it matters, if people can't even get that right about him, what makes them so right about everything else? Hell, why not make it six or seven years?

Anyone taking that long to determine Jason Campbell is not a winning QB needs to be taken out behind a shed and Old Yeller'd.

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7-12 his first 19 games.

5-14 his last 19 games.

Pretty much the same

Anyone taking that long to determine Jason Campbell is not a winning QB needs to be taken out behind a shed and Old Yeller'd.

guys, remember that hes a rookie every year because one thing changes that sends him back to 0. new coach, new system, new kick returner, new pair of shoes, new mustache comb, etc. all of these things are variables that set the clock back for campbell.

i am eagerly awaiting his first start this weekend to see what he can do.

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Aaron Rodgers was drafted at #24 in 2005. He didn't play at all until Brett Favre 'retired' before 2008. Campbell was drafted in 2005 and saw action starting in 2006.

I think it's fair to say that while Campbell has not had the supporting cast that Drew Brees has, he has at least had the chance to show some playmaking ability and potential of what he could be with upgrades elsewhere.

Instead, Campbell has shown to be what he was almost from the start. A guy that can run a conservative run first attack with the threat of the occasional deep ball if given good protection.

He does not read defenses well enough to be in a pass-first offense. He doesn't throw the short and intermediate passes well enough to drive a team 60-70 yards consistently for a TD.

Meanwhile, Rodgers gets on the field and after a little experience lights it up.

The bottom line here is talent.

Rodgers was supposed to be neck and neck with Alex Smith in 2005 but fell out of favor on draft day and the Packers got a steal at #24.

The Redskins on the other hand moved UP in the draft to take Campbell with a #1 pick when most GMs had him rated as a second or third round player.

Typical Redskins move in the 2000's.

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Aaron Rodgers was drafted at #24 in 2005. He didn't play at all until Brett Favre 'retired' before 2008. Campbell was drafted in 2005 and saw action starting in 2006.

I think it's fair to say that while Campbell has not had the supporting cast that Drew Brees has, he has at least had the chance to show some playmaking ability and potential of what he could be with upgrades elsewhere.

Instead, Campbell has shown to be what he was almost from the start. A guy that can run a conservative run first attack with the threat of the occasional deep ball if given good protection.

He does not read defenses well enough to be in a pass-first offense. He doesn't throw the short and intermediate passes well enough to drive a team 60-70 yards consistently for a TD.

Meanwhile, Rodgers gets on the field and after a little experience lights it up.

The bottom line here is talent.

Rodgers was supposed to be neck and neck with Alex Smith in 2005 but fell out of favor on draft day and the Packers got a steal at #24.

The Redskins on the other hand moved UP in the draft to take Campbell with a #1 pick when most GMs had him rated as a second or third round player.

Typical Redskins move in the 2000's.

gibbs liked his character and his arm. hes a nice "gee golly oh shucks" kinda guy with a big heart, a cannon for an arm and gibbs figured if he built up a ridiculous run game and a good defense, we could take the pressure off campbell and place it elsewhere.

he was wrong, and we still havent moved on.

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