speardog1 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I don't think Snyder is dumb enough to fire Gibbs. If anything Gibbs will decide to step down himself. I don't want him gone. I would rather have stability from year to year. If we get a new head coach, then Al Saunders might go then Williams. They'll take all their assistants with them and we're left with nothing. The players have to learn a whole new system and we'll suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kocomoe Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Please don't forget games are won or lose by your defense , offense can score def. has to stop the other team so I wouldn't look at the head coach as much as the def've coach IMO Go SKINS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel1 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 See it through the Time Table that was set.........it is a rebuild and what has taken 14 years to create up until 4 years ago may take another to fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsaneBoost Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I didn't know Gibbs was in control of protecting the ball, which is pretty much why we lost all of our games, Green Bay, Tampa Bay, Eagles. The others we lost ourselves, along with Gibbs, they call it a team for a reason, not an I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uno Mas Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I would love for the 'skins to make a run these last four games and do some damage in the playoffs just for Joe's sake and of course Sean's.If not, I want Joe to retire so he doesn't have to put up with this BS anymore. He deserves better. Why does he 'deserve better'? If his name wasnt Joe Gibbs, would he still have a job, or would there be any question whether he'd be fired at the end of this season? Hell NO. Why does he get a free pass for what he did 20 years ago? Thats a losers mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laxpck Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 just because you asked nicely, ill pipe it down for now, but if another thread pops up later in the day i cant make any promises.will you be on the board tonight after the game? or are you going to the game? Unfortunately my company gave our tickets to the Bears game away to a client way back in August. A pack of buddies and I are going to Machester Lakes in Va to watch the Game at Lucky's. We got a friend who just finished OCS school so we are going to party for them. If I dont get a chance to get on the computer tonight, then you can start your venom toward JG tommorow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Surprised nobody else posted this, but this is yet another skewed stat. Just like the "blown lead" stat dredged up before, this one is BS as it doesn't tell you the whole story. Week 3: NY Giants- up 14 points at half Week 6: Green Bay- up 7 points, lost b/c of Moss fumble Week 10: Philly- up 5 points, lost off one lucky screen Week 11: Dallas- up 3, lost b/c TO didn't have to worry about ST (injured at the time) Week 13: Buffalo- up 7 So, while the Giants game was inexcusable, the rest of our leads "blown" we're only 7 points or less. Also, you can see these losses did come down to bad O-line and not having ST. The Giants game could have gone to OT if we had all our starters in. Green Bay, the O-line gave Moss zero protection on the end around. Philly, ST went out with an injury, otherwise would have been in a position to stop Westy. Dallas, TO had 4 TDs. Even the biggest hater knows TO wouldn't have had 4 if ST had been in. Buffalo was all on our line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Coach Gibbs will know when it's time. Until then he has my unending support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsfan1311 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Why is anybody shocked, for surprised? If memory serves, our very own "fans" were doing the "Joe must Go!" chant.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brasi Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 yep same people whining when Norv was fired under way better circumstances and much more deserving than this....classless and clueless folks at HBO...stupidest move ever would be for Gibbs to leave...Campbell on his second full season next year...Skins with full compliment of draft picks. The Skins have moved the ball so effectively in the first half most games if they had scored TD's the bad second half probably wouldn't have even mattered much. Skins are totally on the right track..they just need to score in the red zone to do a complete 180. Playing half a game and difficulty in the red zone is not uncommon for young teams turning it around. geez.... Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nneece Posted December 6, 2007 Author Share Posted December 6, 2007 Surprised nobody else posted this, but this is yet another skewed stat. Just like the "blown lead" stat dredged up before, this one is BS as it doesn't tell you the whole story.Week 3: NY Giants- up 14 points at half Week 6: Green Bay- up 7 points, lost b/c of Moss fumble Week 10: Philly- up 5 points, lost off one lucky screen Week 11: Dallas- up 3, lost b/c TO didn't have to worry about ST (injured at the time) Week 13: Buffalo- up 7 So, while the Giants game was inexcusable, the rest of our leads "blown" we're only 7 points or less. Also, you can see these losses did come down to bad O-line and not having ST. The Giants game could have gone to OT if we had all our starters in. Green Bay, the O-line gave Moss zero protection on the end around. Philly, ST went out with an injury, otherwise would have been in a position to stop Westy. Dallas, TO had 4 TDs. Even the biggest hater knows TO wouldn't have had 4 if ST had been in. Buffalo was all on our line. This is oversimplyfying it. We should have won the Philly game and the Buffalo game. Our problems come back to not being able to score in the red zone. This is based in part on ultraconservative play calling on the part of Gibbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKIN4WAHOOZ Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 marino....lol I love how he couldnt take the fact that farve broke his records. He hated it. That is all he had. poor guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECU-ALUM Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 marino....lol I love how he couldnt take the fact that farve broke his records. He hated it. That is all he had. poor guy! Not to mention he had the role in "Ace Ventura" and then Favre caem along and did "There's Something about Mary."...that should've been the first sign that Favre would one day pass him by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hail2thegibb Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 i agree losing 5 games after a halftime lead thats horrible coaching I don't think that is coaching.. I think the players are getting a little lax.... When the offense can't stay on the field in the 4th qtr it starts with them producing not the coaches.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I can't wait until someone writes a book about the whole Gibbs II fiasco a few years from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Coach Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I don't think that is coaching.. I think the players are getting a little lax.... When the offense can't stay on the field in the 4th qtr it starts with them producing not the coaches.. It most certainly is coaching. The offense they run with the lead (a small one at that) is nowhere near the offense they ran in order to get that lead. After huge first halfs, they don't even look Cooley's way until an occasional 3 and long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Coach Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I can't wait until someone writes a book about the whole Gibbs II fiasco a few years from now. I have a feeling that if such a book does come out, that we haven't even heard the worst of it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neophyte Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 It most certainly is coaching. The offense they run with the lead (a small one at that) is nowhere near the offense they ran in order to get that lead. After huge first halfs, they don't even look Cooley's way until an occasional 3 and long. Maybe they are looking his way and his covered? Other teams have been known to make halftime adjustments too. I'm just saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsfor4 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Its both playcalling and execution by the players that have lead to our red-zone woes.Other teams adjust at halftime,ours not so much.Maybe tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeGreen Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I can't wait until someone writes a book about the whole Gibbs II fiasco a few years from now.I have a feeling that if such a book does come out, that we haven't even heard the worst of it yet. More like we haven't heard the half of it. Why do I say it that way? Because 95% of us on here have no real idea what happens behind the scenes. Yet we're all able to make our *expert* opinions about who should stay and who should go just from watching 16 games a season. If anything, our constant expectation for instant gratification translates to the football field too. No one has the patience to win through building and steady progress. Don't win the Super Bowl in 3 or 4 years, clean house and start over again. After another 4 years, rinse and repeat. Or if it's really bad, start over in two. Should Gibbs stay or go? Not my decision, although I have my druthers. That decision rests entirely on two people: Snyder and Gibbs himself. We don't have to agree, we don't have to like it, heck, we don't even need to stay fans. The Cowboys' bandwagon is always open as we know, that's where most of their fan base comes from anyway. I'll say this much about Snyder, he seems to be learning from his mistakes. If nothing else, this past week in dealing with Taylor's death has shown us in many ways he gets it now. Not making excuses, but key injuries, 1st full-time year for QB, and countless other things have factored into this year's lack of success. This team is playing close games and remaining competitive, and that's a good step towards winning. You've heard this before, but sometimes the line between winning and losing is almost invisible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zallera Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Carter bet against us going to the playoffs two years ago. He said that he would sing "Hail to the Redskins" if we made it, and he never did. He's a Redskins hater. Marino never won a Super Bowl and is jealous. Collingsworth is a former Cowboy. And Costas is better suited for covering the Olympics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoCommiesGo Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 In 3.5 years we have only won 7 games were we where losing or tied at the half... I don't know what that means but I find it to be low especially since we have lost twice that number when leading at the half. Food for thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskin48 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Sorry I just dont think it is the coach. The players have to exicute. For instence when the coach desides to go for it on 4th down you can not line up and have a false start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamaGoliath Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 They may be right, but it's Inside the NFL...so eff' em! I could give 2 :pooh: what those clowns think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Shot Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 **** inside the nfl, i hate that show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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