Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 why dont we call audibles? watching manning in the 2nd half he was calling audibles all over the place and torching us on big plays. why isnt campbell doing this when he sees something in a defense? itd be nice to see campbell come out, change the play at the LOS, and get a big play for big yardage. im just confused as to why i havent seen any audibles called in 3 games, and with audibles being such an important part of an offense, why we dont use them. thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 one of three reasons.... There's no time. <---most likely Coaches tell him not to audible. <---wouldn't be surprising Audibles don't exist.<----wouldn't be surprising, but highly unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c4man5282 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 one of three reasons....There's no time. <---most likely Coaches tell him not to audible. <---wouldn't be surprising Audibles don't exist.<----wouldn't be surprising, but highly unlikely. bingo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RODAN1054 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 why dont we call audibles? watching manning in the 2nd half he was calling audibles all over the place and torching us on big plays. why isnt campbell doing this when he sees something in a defense? itd be nice to see campbell come out, change the play at the LOS, and get a big play for big yardage. im just confused as to why i havent seen any audibles called in 3 games, and with audibles being such an important part of an offense, why we dont use them.thoughts. Why would anyone want to let a young qb loose to call his own audibles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffxfinest Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 I thought there was no audibles in Al Saunders offense. I could be wrong though. But I believe I read that somewhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Didn't Saunders come out and say that there are pretty much no audibles in his offense and that they relied on shifting and sets to confuse the defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted October 3, 2007 Author Share Posted October 3, 2007 one of three reasons....There's no time. <---most likely Coaches tell him not to audible. <---wouldn't be surprising Audibles don't exist.<----wouldn't be surprising, but highly unlikely. why is there no time? are we that slow and stupid that we cant call a play, read a defense, and adjust? sad if true. why would gibbs/saunders tell campbell not to audible? thats a complete play killer if a defense reads us perfectly (and its not hard to read us, its all 1 WR = run or failed playaction, or 2 WR with some motion, usually a run play or weak playaction) haha, how could audbiles not exist? we cannot be that incompetent to not even give campbell the option of switching the play after reading the D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoyler23 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Saunders believes that audibles don't make sense because defenses disguise their coverage anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted October 3, 2007 Author Share Posted October 3, 2007 Why would anyone want to let a yound qb loose to call his own audibles um, because maybe our young QB is a smart kid who could make a sound football call and prove to everyone he can do it? why would anyone want to hold back our young QB from calling his own audibles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxpunk2006 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 why is there no time? are we that slow and stupid that we cant call a play, read a defense, and adjust? sad if true.why would gibbs/saunders tell campbell not to audible? thats a complete play killer if a defense reads us perfectly (and its not hard to read us, its all 1 WR = run or failed playaction, or 2 WR with some motion, usually a run play or weak playaction) haha, how could audbiles not exist? we cannot be that incompetent to not even give campbell the option of switching the play after reading the D. I'm sure we have one or two basic audibles such as switching to a run or which side etc. However audibles are not a large part of Saunders' offense. Motions are used to create mismatches against the defense and the entire play clock is needed to execute all of the motions. Audibling to a new play would not leave sufficient time to correctly run the motions, which would in turn make the play run incorrectly. I know it seems weird not audibling when we see Brady and Manning do it, but Saunders does have a little experience in the NFL putting together successful offenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigSkins47 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Saunders believes that audibles don't make sense because defenses disguise their coverage anyway. Quoted for truth. I've read in several threads about this. Also, However audibles are not a large part of Saunders' offense. Motions are used to create mismatches against the defense and the entire play clock is needed to execute all of the motions. Audibling to a new play would not leave sufficient time to correctly run the motions, which would in turn make the play run incorrectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted October 3, 2007 Author Share Posted October 3, 2007 I'm sure we have one or two basic audibles such as switching to a run or which side etc. However audibles are not a large part of Saunders' offense. Motions are used to create mismatches against the defense and the entire play clock is needed to execute all of the motions. Audibling to a new play would not leave sufficient time to correctly run the motions, which would in turn make the play run incorrectly.I know it seems weird not audibling when we see Brady and Manning do it, but Saunders does have a little experience in the NFL putting together successful offenses. well lets hope all these motions can turn our offense into a good unit, because so far weve looked pretty stale out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejaydana Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Saunders believes that audibles don't make sense because defenses disguise their coverage anyway. Peyton has proven this to be a farce (although prolly no QB in the history of the game has mastered the audible quite like him). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 ok so the consensus is that there are no audibles. there has to be something we do when the defense is yelling out our play, or shifting correctly before we run it. what do we do when the QB sees a free blitzer? how do we take advantage or compensate for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewAgeSkins Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Peyton has proven this to be a farce (although prolly no QB in the history of the game has mastered the audible quite like him). You have to also keep in mind that he, for the most part is calling his own plays, so the the audible is necessary. He's given 3 plays, and at the line, he reads the defense, and picks one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tone_dubbz Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 why dont we call audibles? watching manning in the 2nd half he was calling audibles all over the place and torching us on big plays. why isnt campbell doing this when he sees something in a defense? itd be nice to see campbell come out, change the play at the LOS, and get a big play for big yardage. im just confused as to why i havent seen any audibles called in 3 games, and with audibles being such an important part of an offense, why we dont use them.thoughts. Gibbs conservative and conventional style of play calling is making the offense predictable. Trying to keep it simple for JC, so he'll be able to "manage" the game for us. We need to him to step and win us games. I'm tired of using his youth and inexperience as an excuse for not opening up the playbook and throwing some damm points on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portis4Lfe Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Gibbs conservative and conventional style of play calling is making the offense predictable. Trying to keep it simple for JC, so he'll be able to "manage" the game for us. We need to him to step and win us games. I'm tired of using his youth and inexperience as an excuse for not opening up the playbook and throwing some damm points on the board. Gotta agree cuz this conservative crap was used even with veteran brunell in there last year and its just more of the same, besides an occasional deep ball, that is the ONLY difference now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinthePRF Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 1 word, experience. Manning calls audibles, Brady calls audibles, Farve calls audibles. Leinart on a whole does not call audibles, neither does Alex Smith, or Jackson in Minnesota. Detect a pattern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty Gut Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 I've heard conflicting reports. A couple of weeks back on Redskins Radio Gibbs clearly said they have audibles and Campbell has the freedom to use them on most plays. On the other hand, we are always told by local media that there are no audibles in Saunders' offense. I'm gonna go with Gibbs on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato Sack Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Didn't Saunders come out and say that there are pretty much no audibles in his offense and that they relied on shifting and sets to confuse the defense? HAH....if that's true, then we'll always be in nailbiters. Sorry, it's a fast league and defenses are always veiling what they're doing. We need audibles. And I can count on one hand how many shifts I saw in the last game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato Sack Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Saunders believes that audibles don't make sense because defenses disguise their coverage anyway. Yeh, Peyton Manning and the other audiblizing clones don't make sense. If this is true than our OC REALLY needs to rethink his philosophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RODAN1054 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Yeh, Peyton Manning and the other audiblizing clones don't make sense. If this is true than our OC REALLY needs to rethink his philosophy. Wow theres a great equasion, Comparing Brady Favre,and Manning to JC is like apples and oranges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willmb5 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 because we don't have Peyton Manning under center Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbnva Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 found this blurb about Sauders offense "He's told the flanker what to do, but no one else; they have to memorize their routes," Saunders explained. "We tell everybody what to do on every play, yet our verbiage is short and simple." That simplicity enables Saunders to change formations on every down if he desires. He'll switch from two backs to two tight ends to three receivers to four receivers, hoping to create mismatches. It makes halftime adjustments easier, too. Basic formations stay the same, but overbearing defenses can be compromised just by changing a route number. Where it gets tricky is that there are virtually no audibles: The quarterback and receivers must read the defense quickly and make pre-assigned adjustments. The very next line reads. At their best, Saunders' offenses never take what the defense gives; they take what they want. I am just waiting for that day to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veretax Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 I thought Saunders offense didn't operate on audibles but on certain plays had "hot reads" that receivers would make if it was believed the timing wouldn't be there for the original route called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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