radagast5 Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 With the assorted injuries we're currently facing, and the roster-shuffling problems they create, something dawned on me: When an injured NFL player goes on IR, it's for the entire season. Why does the NFL not adopt a policy of 15- and 30- and 60-day IR status? Why does IR have to be the remainder of the season? Is it because such parameters on IR create salary cap loopholes? Anyone have any insight on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNoles21 Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 because the season isnt 8million days long like baseball. Plus, they already have the inactive list, so there is no need for it. If you have to make six guys inactive every week anyways, youd assume that those that are injured will just be on the inactive list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 I know the CFL has a 9 game list which is half the season, I would love to see the NFL something like this, 8 games would make sense. I hate how IR is the whole season, especially when a guy get hurt early like Thomas did. I remember in 2005 Patten was put on IR and was healthy enough to come back for the playoffs but couldn't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radagast5 Posted September 28, 2007 Author Share Posted September 28, 2007 I know the CFL has a 9 game list which is half the season, I would love to see the NFL something like this, 8 games would make sense. I hate how IR is the whole season, especially when a guy get hurt early like Thomas did. I remember in 2005 Patten was put on IR and was healthy enough to come back for the playoffs but couldn't play. This happened with Jansen in 2004. He had the Achilles injury very early in preseason and was (according to him at least) ready to play by the last three weeks of December, but was on IR rendering the point moot. Same thing happened to Jerry Rice back in 1995 or so. He blew out his knee opening week and they kept him on the active roster. He made it back in time for the final week of the season. It would make sense, to me, to have *some* sort of mid-term IR option like the one you referenced in the CFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanboyOf91 Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 An 8-game inactive list would be awesome considering how everyone in the league (except the frigging Patriots) is getting hit by injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKM311 Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 because the season isnt 8million days long like baseball. Plus, they already have the inactive list, so there is no need for it. If you have to make six guys inactive every week anyways, youd assume that those that are injured will just be on the inactive list. But I believe the even if they are inactive, they still count towards the salary cap and roster spot. If you IR someone, it free's up the roster spot which is why people do it. I agree that an 8 game IR, would benefit all teams and help out with bringing people back slowly. However, there is the PUP, where they are out the first 6 weeks of the seaosn and then can come back. But I am not 100% sure how it works during the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor 36 Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 because the season isnt 8million days long like baseball. Plus, they already have the inactive list, so there is no need for it. If you have to make six guys inactive every week anyways, youd assume that those that are injured will just be on the inactive list. Just what I was going to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xempt Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 its because guys like joe gibbs would abuse a system like this to stash players and such, like back in his first stint here guys would go on IR for a hangnail type injury just so we could hold their rights and develop them in closed practices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mania Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 because they aren't MLB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointyfootball Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 ...everyone in the league (except the frigging Patriots) is getting hit by injuries. That's because they cheat...by taking HGH to recover from injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNoles21 Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 its because guys like joe gibbs would abuse a system like this to stash players and such, like back in his first stint here guys would go on IR for a hangnail type injury just so we could hold their rights and develop them in closed practices Like Derrick Blaylock? He might actually be down for the year but hell if I know because I never hear anything about his injury and then all of a sudden hes done for the year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radagast5 Posted September 28, 2007 Author Share Posted September 28, 2007 its because guys like joe gibbs would abuse a system like this to stash players and such, like back in his first stint here guys would go on IR for a hangnail type injury just so we could hold their rights and develop them in closed practices Simple, you have league officials monitor practices on an unannounced, spot-check basis and if the team is caught practicing one of these IR-d players, then they're liable for crippling penalties and punitive damages (loss of draft picks, etc.) That would avail a 30-day IR option for its intended use while hedging against abusing the system to stash players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCranon21 Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 NFL's version of the 15 and 30 day DL is the PUP list. A player has up to 6 games not to suit up(Richard Seymour and Holmes are on it right now) and after the 6 games, the team either has a choice to IR them for the rest of the way or put them on the 53 man roster. Correct me if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 There is a PUP list. Where you can stash a guy until week 7~8. The season is short. There are 53 people on the roster, more than enough to fill a void when a starter needs to only sit out for 15 or 30 days, which equates to 2-4 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 the NFL doesn't have a farm system. those 60 day DL calls are made and teams bring up players from AA or AAA to the major league roster. the only support system teams have in the NFL is the practice squad. but with only 8 spots, many positions on the NFL roster are not covered with depth on the PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuryYourDuke Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 its because guys like joe gibbs would abuse a system like this to stash players and such, like back in his first stint here guys would go on IR for a hangnail type injury just so we could hold their rights and develop them in closed practices DING DING DING... Abuse is the main reason. It would be WAY too easy to totally destroy the current roster limits if you could just stick people on IR and bring them back all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEavyJumbo85 Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 DING DING DING...Abuse is the main reason. It would be WAY too easy to totally destroy the current roster limits if you could just stick people on IR and bring them back all the time. The IR rules as they are now are specifically directed at Joe Gibbs. He used to Redshirt players on IR because they were allowed to practice in the old days. That's how we developed Quarterbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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