no1fanofno21 Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 whos to say that the same people don't give to both? Don't forget, those things you mentioned are often financed through taxes. im not saying they don't. IMO its just a waste of money to finance someone's canidancy. They should be able to afford it themselves. im not picking on anyone, just like all the money going to the war is a waste, there are many wastes of money, i was just pointing it out w/o starting a whole new thread rant about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan999 Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 They should be able to afford it themselves. Yeah, let's just let the wealthy be the only ones to hold political positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImmortalDragon Posted September 28, 2007 Author Share Posted September 28, 2007 The PBS debate stream http://www.pbs.org/kcet/tavissmiley/special/forums/?campaign=pbshomefeatures_1_allamericanpresidentialforums_2007-09-27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 The PBS debate streamhttp://www.pbs.org/kcet/tavissmiley/special/forums/?campaign=pbshomefeatures_1_allamericanpresidentialforums_2007-09-27 thanks bro! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 For someone who has no chance, he sure does seem to get the majority of applause in every debate I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 The Libertarian movement is not about 2008, it's about 2016/2020/2024. Liberty people are trying to capture youth (people like me) who agree with the things that they are saying. Recently I listened to a radio show called "Free Talk Live" via podcast... and I think I'll continue listening because just about most of what they are saying resonates with me. I've also heard a few Dan Carlin's "Commen Sense" podcast, and that also resonated with me. I'd be interested in similar PodCast recommendations. I've found that Ingraham/O'Reilly/Rush all parrot the same arguments over and over again... and I'm sure it's not that different on the left side. I think as us younger generation see how much both parties of the govt screw us (especially on SOCIAL SECURITY) we'll be more inclined to vote for Ron Paul or like-minded candidate. Before listening to a recent FTL podcast I wasn't aware of the Automated Targeting System. Just what I want... the government keeping a massive database of my travel history, who I traveled with, where I'm sitting, if I showed up or not, what hotel I stayed in, yadda yadda. It's not hard to see the light... now I hope there is more of a movement towards libertarian ideas in our government... but I don't see Dems and Pubbies pushing as hard for the youth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan133 Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 The Libertarian movement is not about 2008, it's about 2016/2020/2024. Liberty people are trying to capture youth (people like me) who agree with the things that they are saying. Recently I listened to a radio show called "Free Talk Live" via podcast... and I think I'll continue listening because just about most of what they are saying resonates with me. I've also heard a few Dan Carlin's "Commen Sense" podcast, and that also resonated with me. I'd be interested in similar PodCast recommendations. I've found that Ingraham/O'Reilly/Rush all parrot the same arguments over and over again... and I'm sure it's not that different on the left side. I think as us younger generation see how much both parties of the govt screw us (especially on SOCIAL SECURITY) we'll be more inclined to vote for Ron Paul or like-minded candidate. Before listening to a recent FTL podcast I wasn't aware of the Automated Targeting System. Just what I want... the government keeping a massive database of my travel history, who I traveled with, where I'm sitting, if I showed up or not, what hotel I stayed in, yadda yadda. It's not hard to see the light... now I hope there is more of a movement towards libertarian ideas in our government... but I don't see Dems and Pubbies pushing as hard for the youth... that goes along with the new V-CHIPS added with every new passport right? I really don't like where the government is going these days, with both parties in power, one that ignores its principles and one that preaches pure evil. its funny though that none of you will be able to figure out which party belongs to which description. wake up people they've become ONE party really and we are pandering to their game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Williams Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 Ron Paul is against the merger with Canada and mexico and he is also against the Real Id Act that within the next 2-3 years is gonna trigger the RFID chip. If you are scratching your head right now ask yourself this: Will you get a chip placed in your hand that tracks everything you do, everywhere you go and everyone you are with? If you don't , you won't be able to buy or sell. Along with this the UN is looking to make it a criminal act to hire you or allow you to enter ANY federal building or travel ( EVEN in your own car ) If this sounds familiar at all, that's because it's all in YOUR Bible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 Wow! This is insane! He got another $200K. Since I last posted! These spammers are wealthy! Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 who, in your opinion, does have a "snowball's chance"?(I'd actually put quite a few in that bracket) Ummm...Ron Paul? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImmortalDragon Posted September 28, 2007 Author Share Posted September 28, 2007 John Edwards has a similar thing going to get 1 million in 10 days Ron Paul - 5 days - $721,669.81 (as of 2:55 pm EST) John Edwards - 8 days - $813,550 (as of 11 am EST) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Williams Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 724k..............i would love to see this underdog win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 Ummm...Ron Paul? I think you misunderstood my question. I apologize for not asking it clearly. Who do you feel has any chance at all of the GOP nomination and why (specifics beyond flawed polling numbers like Gallup, et al.) Factors to include could be real votes from real people in straw, financials, etc. You know, actual barometers of real support. again, I think that many of the candidates would qualify under certain metrics, Ron Paul included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainmkr Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 what a waste of money. Can you imagine if the people who give money to the canidates gave it to fight real stuff like Darfur and aids in africa or even poverty in our own country how much better the world would be.For the most part people are gonna vote republican/democrat/green party. Going to each state and saying the same things to different crowds is a waste of time and money. He is a republican candidate so that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 He is a republican candidate so that makes sense. ??? Please explain?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainmkr Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 ???Please explain?? He said it was a waste of money, I stated Ron Paul is a Republican which is one of the parties he listed. Translation: Ron Paul is not running in a separate independent/libertarian/whatever party, therefore it is not a waste of money according to the OP's logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 He said it was a waste of money, I stated Ron Paul is a Republican which is one of the parties he listed.Translation: Ron Paul is not running in a separate independent/libertarian/whatever party, therefore it is not a waste of money according to the OP's logic. gotcha....and thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 He passed Edwards (who was also running a similar challenge) this morning. I think he's at $830K now with over 24 hrs left. It will be a stretch to hit $1M, but this is amazing none-the-less. Recall that the original goal was blown away already. Even the hatefull media from both right and left will have to notice numbers like that from a supposed "2nd tier" candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan999 Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 He's at over $980,000, with about 1 day and 2.5 hours left. I think it's safe to say he'll break the 1 mil mark. It'll probably get done before midnight tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 One Million Hit with more than a day to go !!! Thats One Million dollars in less than a week in just online donations at an average donation of less than $100 This campaign cannot be ignored any longer I am stunned and on cloud 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 I just came back from a fundraiser of his where a signed Constitution of his went for 1500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImmortalDragon Posted September 30, 2007 Author Share Posted September 30, 2007 $1,000,000 just before the 7th day started Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 I just came back from a fundraiser of his where a signed Constitution of his went for 1500. I've been hearing of those alot lately. They seem to be a popular item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan133 Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Hurray America, you do love freedom! $1,027,680.42 at 1:21 AM Sept. 30th! I'll be damned, he did it! edit: I dontated 10 of my hard earned dollars, which is in itself a big conrtibution for me cause i make only $130 a week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Hurray America, you do love freedom! $1,027,680.42 at 1:21 AM Sept. 30th! I'll be damned, he did it! edit: I dontated 10 of my hard earned dollars, which is in itself a big conrtibution for me cause i make only $130 a week Hey, Thanks for your contribution! Don't ever belittle your efforts! It's more than money you sent. You sent a message of your desire for honest liberty that old media and the "annointed" cannot ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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