skinzfan4life Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Yipppppppppppeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass_SkinsFan Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 I tend to disagree.Cooley can catch. Cooley can run. Cooly can break tackles...basically his YAC is incredible. He is also a solid blocker at the TE spot. Put it in perspective Daniel Grahm got a 5 year 30 million dollar deal this offseason that includes $15 million in guaranteed money and he is not even close to cooleys league. From what I've seen Cooley's blocking skills are nowhere near what I expect out of a Tight End. In my mind the position is basically the Offensive Tackle with the best hands on the team. Yes, he is a good receiver, but that's not really what my main focus is when I look for a Tight End. While I agree with you that Graham isn't in Cooley's league as a pass catcher... he's essentially a sixth offensive lineman when he lines up with his hand down. In my mind, that makes his skill set more valuable than Cooley's though the fact that he's been a Patriot makes him personally worthless to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemocystem Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 this is a very good day!!! locking up Cooley was a must & i was as afraid as many others on this board that we would procrastinate too long on this deal. i'm very excited to know that we have Cooley for a looooong time in a Redskins uniform. good day indeed! now lock up Sean Taylor!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Wow. Honestly, we underpaid him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell Shotgun Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Great news! It's great that the FO realized what they have in Cooley! Now we can focus on the season. HTTR! Thank you Cooley for all you've done so far for us fans - you've earned this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmeriplanDentalMan Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Campbell and Cooley are going to team up for 100 receptions this year. I've said it before. THis is Al Saunders offense and the tight end is the main focal point in the passing game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsn24 Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 From what I've seen Cooley's blocking skills are nowhere near what I expect out of a Tight End. In my mind the position is basically the Offensive Tackle with the best hands on the team. Yes, he is a good receiver, but that's not really what my main focus is when I look for a Tight End. While I agree with you that Graham isn't in Cooley's league as a pass catcher... he's essentially a sixth offensive lineman when he lines up with his hand down. In my mind, that makes his skill set more valuable than Cooley's though the fact that he's been a Patriot makes him personally worthless to me. Well i guess we have a big difference in what we want out of our TE then. I think guys like Gonzo and Gates who are pass catches are much more valuable than the blocking TE. Hell we can line up an extra lineman or Sellers there if we really want that much blocking. Cooley is our only possesion option and he moves the chains and that is what counts for me. Hell, Cooley has changed games single handley by himself and won games by himself, that is something that I cannot put on the same level as an extra blocker like DG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 That's a LOT of cash for a one-tool player. Especially when it's not the tool I consider to be of the utmost importance for a Tight End. It's nice that we've extended him... I just think that's too much money. It happens to be the tool that makes him very valuable as a TE. Think of him as a very large, slower WR that can make all the catches. I knew they'd get it done and I'm glad to see that monkey off the team's back. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass_SkinsFan Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 I'd like to know exactly what the numbers are before I start dancing on this one. I've seen a couple different sets of them now and I'm not real happy with all of them. If we gave him more than a couple million a year (maybe as high as $2.5 Mil) that's fine and I'll agree it's a good move. If we gave him more than that, considering he's a receiving TE almost exclusively, I think we paid too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDevil Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Yes Yes Yes!!! Coooooooley! We Love Ya Man! Dont Ever Leave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsn24 Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 It happens to be the tool that makes him very valuable as a TE. Think of him as a very large, slower WR that can make all the catches.I knew they'd get it done and I'm glad to see that monkey off the team's back. Jason Jason, Me and you agree on something for sure now. His possesion skills make him priceless along with the fact that he can take a 7 yard in and turn it into a game winning 3 tackle breaking score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Sweet, now I can go buy a #47 Jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torch7 Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 COOOOOOOOOooooooooooLEEEEEEEEeeeeeY!!!!!! :applause: :notworthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackest Eyes Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 we underpaid him? He just got 14 million dollars folks. That is like winning the lotto imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackMagic21 Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 O THANK GOD about time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Pressure Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 From what I've seen Cooley's blocking skills are nowhere near what I expect out of a Tight End. In my mind the position is basically the Offensive Tackle with the best hands on the team. Yes, he is a good receiver, but that's not really what my main focus is when I look for a Tight End. While I agree with you that Graham isn't in Cooley's league as a pass catcher... he's essentially a sixth offensive lineman when he lines up with his hand down. In my mind, that makes his skill set more valuable than Cooley's though the fact that he's been a Patriot makes him personally worthless to me. I think Al Saunders' main focus is to get a tight end that can catch passes, generate YAC, and do an average job blocking. Chris Cooley is a better blocker than Tony Gonzalez... We paid for a guy who fits into our system, was our leading receiver last season, loves being a Redskin, has a great work ethic, has never been injured, and if he gets more than 700 receiving yards or goes to the pro bowl this season, we underpaid for him compared to TE's on other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Day Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 I'd like to know exactly what the numbers are before I start dancing on this one. I've seen a couple different sets of them now and I'm not real happy with all of them. If we gave him more than a couple million a year (maybe as high as $2.5 Mil) that's fine and I'll agree it's a good move. If we gave him more than that, considering he's a receiving TE almost exclusively, I think we paid too much. Let me put it too you this way, Daniel Grahams contract was for equal overall money, larger guaranteed money and less years. This is a steal for the skins. The Broncos outbid the Seahawks for Patriots tight end Daniel Graham in negotiations that went well into Tuesday night. Graham ended up with a five-year, $30 million deal from the Broncos that included $15 million in guarantees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 I'd like to know exactly what the numbers are before I start dancing on this one. I've seen a couple different sets of them now and I'm not real happy with all of them. If we gave him more than a couple million a year (maybe as high as $2.5 Mil) that's fine and I'll agree it's a good move. If we gave him more than that, considering he's a receiving TE almost exclusively, I think we paid too much. Agree we need to see the final numbers but unless they are way higher than what we have seen we have paid lower end top 10 money based on this years salary cap for a guy just aout everyone agrees is a top 10 NFL TE. If Cooley has the year we are expecting/hoping it would have cost us a LOT more to sign him long term next year and if we had franchised him it would have spoiled the relationship and maybe put us in a holdout situation. This is a good thing we have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never21Forgotten36 Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Well I am glad there will actually be some universal peace in the forum for a couple of hours. Everyone seems genuinely happy and thankful for the re-up of Cooley. But Ill be willing to bet $10 that everyone will be moaning and groaning again at 4 when we find out who didn't/did make the team. Everyone will go right back to hating on the FO. Bank on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Wowowowowowoowowowowowo +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Yeah that is great news, great job reporting it here on EXTREME Skins too, thanks. Our front office has closed a deal truly important to the fans. Kudos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHOPSkins Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 .....He (Cooley) is also a solid blocker at the TE spot... His blocking is just OK I am not saying he ain't worth resigning He finds a way to get open.......clutch is good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunny Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Great news! Now I can buy his jersey, and know it will for surely last me awhile. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass_SkinsFan Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Well i guess we have a big difference in what we want out of our TE then.I think guys like Gonzo and Gates who are pass catches are much more valuable than the blocking TE. Hell we can line up an extra lineman or Sellers there if we really want that much blocking. Yes we do have a big difference in what we look for. Nothing wrong with that, just different ways of looking at the position. I think it's great that Cooley has good speed and hands. His ability to catch the ball would be a great addition if he could utilized as a check-down option or a change of pace receiver. That's the role I prefer to see out of the TE position. If you're FEATURING a TE in your passing offense, it's probably not one I'm going to find a lot of things to like in. Cooley is our only possesion option and he moves the chains and that is what counts for me. That's a matter of the issue that we have the world's largest single collection of #4 WR talent. We have Moss and a group of guys who aren't even worthy of being #3 receivers on most decent teams. The fact that we have to use our TE for that job isn't really a positive in my book. Hell, Cooley has changed games single handley by himself and won games by himself, that is something that I cannot put on the same level as an extra blocker like DG. I'd suggest the fact that he has changed games and had to win them speaks volumes about the ineffectiveness of our offense; both systemically and personnel-wise over the last several years. It happens to be the tool that makes him very valuable as a TE. Think of him as a very large, slower WR that can make all the catches. That's fine. Then line him up off the end of the line and call him a #4 WR. When he lines up tight to the formation, just outside the OT, he's a tight end and so far as I'm concerned it's more important that he can beat the piss out of that defensive end or blitzing outside linebacker than the fact that he can catch the ball really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsn24 Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 I'd like to know exactly what the numbers are before I start dancing on this one. I've seen a couple different sets of them now and I'm not real happy with all of them. If we gave him more than a couple million a year (maybe as high as $2.5 Mil) that's fine and I'll agree it's a good move. If we gave him more than that, considering he's a receiving TE almost exclusively, I think we paid too much. 6 year 30 mill, 14 garenteed. Min salary for the first 2 years. Cheer up, he is a top receiving TE in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Day Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Lets look at this way, Cooley as a FA is a 50 million dollar contract next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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