Titaw Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 I know there are numerous welcome back SMOOOOOOOOOOOT! threads. This one, however, is a little different. Looking back on the whole ordeal Smoot actually hurt our team in the long run rather than helping. Here's the 2005 offseson timeline. - FA begins and Fred Smoot signs with Minnesota. - No replacement picked up in 2005 FA period. - Redskins select Carlos Rogers with the 9th pick in the draft Let's take a look at what could have been. - FA begins and Redskins resign Fred Smoot - Redskins select Shawne Merriman with the 9th pick in the draft - Redskins resign Ryan Clark because they cannot shell out a bus load of cash to Adam Archluleta due to the resigning of Fred Smoot - 2006 Draft Redskins DO NOT trade up to get Rocky and they still have a 2nd Round pick in 2007 I know this is hindsight, but our front office really needs to think aboout this and realize that sometimes retaining our homegrown talent is better than signing big name Free Agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinisterJay Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 what about Brandon Lloyd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titaw Posted March 4, 2007 Author Share Posted March 4, 2007 what about Brandon Lloyd What about him? He really had nothing to do with this whole ordeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinclair Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 i see what you are saying but more than a few things have to fall in line for that to happen just like that. First off your assuming our FO would make a good move like drafting merriman and then resigning Clark. Its hard telling really and its all a big 'what if' question now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinclair Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 what about Brandon Lloyd well....what about him..this had to do with the Defense.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor 36 Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 I know there are numerous welcome back SMOOOOOOOOOOOT! threads. This one, however, is a little different.Looking back on the whole ordeal Smoot actually hurt our team in the long run rather than helping. Here's the 2005 offseson timeline. - FA begins and Fred Smoot signs with Minnesota. - No replacement picked up in 2005 FA period. - Redskins select Carlos Rogers with the 9th pick in the draft Let's take a look at what could have been. - FA begins and Redskins resign Fred Smoot - Redskins select Shawne Merriman with the 9th pick in the draft - Redskins resign Ryan Clark because they cannot shell out a bus load of cash to Adam Archluleta due to the resigning of Fred Smoot - 2006 Draft Redskins DO NOT trade up to get Rocky and they still have a 2nd Round pick in 2007 I know this is hindsight, but our front office really needs to think aboout this and realize that sometimes retaining our homegrown talent is better than signing big name Free Agents. Actually, this falls more on Smoot than our FO. They made Smoot a very nice offer that Minn. beat out by mere pennies by NFL standards, and Smoot CHOSE to leave. Now, before anyone says that we could have countered the offer, it looks like in hindsight our FO made the RIGHT decision. Look at how well things worked out for Smoot in Minn., and now he is back for a much cheaper price than what he was offered two years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSellers45 Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 I know there are numerous welcome back SMOOOOOOOOOOOT! threads. This one, however, is a little different.Looking back on the whole ordeal Smoot actually hurt our team in the long run rather than helping. Here's the 2005 offseson timeline. - FA begins and Fred Smoot signs with Minnesota. - No replacement picked up in 2005 FA period. - Redskins select Carlos Rogers with the 9th pick in the draft Let's take a look at what could have been. - FA begins and Redskins resign Fred Smoot - Redskins select Shawne Merriman with the 9th pick in the draft - Redskins resign Ryan Clark because they cannot shell out a bus load of cash to Adam Archluleta due to the resigning of Fred Smoot - 2006 Draft Redskins DO NOT trade up to get Rocky and they still have a 2nd Round pick in 2007 I know this is hindsight, but our front office really needs to think aboout this and realize that sometimes retaining our homegrown talent is better than signing big name Free Agents. Thats interesting. I always wanted Merriman in the B&G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goaldeje Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Hindsight is always 20/20, though you make some good points. I'm not actually sure that signing Smoot would have prevented us from signing AA, however. Once we get it into our heads that we like a certain player, well, it pretty much happens at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Jones Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 You also have to factor in the way MN structured the contract. They put a lot of that money up front making it difficult for the skins to match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskeypeet Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 What about John Hall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexxskins Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 The what ifs look nice. But Smoot admitted it himself that it was all about the money the first time. Which basically to me means that it was his fault why he left and not our FO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
909997 Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 what about mark brunell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 In re-signing Smoot back then, we would not have had the cap to sustain the Coles hit in the trade for Moss, and still get Rabach, and still sign two first round picks in Merriman and Campbell. We still had Arrington though, so why would we have taken a tweener LB? We might have taken, gulp, Mike Williams instead. But as you said this is all hindsight. If we had that capability we could have drafted Hester and Marques Colston. Hindsight doesn't fix anything, yet so many on here base all their bashing of the FO directly off of it, and none ever want to praise the FO for the smart moves they make. Hopefully we will have a winning season soon so a lot of those people will either shutup or just go away completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinisterJay Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 What about John Hall?:laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskeypeet Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 what about mark brunell Great point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinisterJay Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 what about Brian Mitchell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor 36 Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 What about John Hall? what about mark brunell What about them??? Both were here BEFORE Smoot left, and neither has anything to do with this thread.:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatboy41 Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 What about John Hall? :laugh: ... hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never21Forgotten36 Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 What about them??? Both were here BEFORE Smoot left, and neither has anything to do with this thread.:doh: hahaha, not too quick on the uptake there, are you buddy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titaw Posted March 4, 2007 Author Share Posted March 4, 2007 In re-signing Smoot back then, we would not have had the cap to sustain the Coles hit in the trade for Moss, and still get Rabach, and still sign two first round picks in Merriman and Campbell. We still had Arrington though, so why would we have taken a tweener LB? We might have taken, gulp, Mike Williams instead. But as you said this is all hindsight. If we had that capability we could have drafted Hester and Marques Colston. Hindsight doesn't fix anything, yet so many on here base all their bashing of the FO directly off of it, and none ever want to praise the FO for the smart moves they make. Hopefully we will have a winning season soon so a lot of those people will either shutup or just go away completely. I can understand where you are coming from. My thoughts are that while our FO makes some great moves (Coles/Moss, Cooley, Taylor over Winslow) the have made far more bad moves (Clark, Lloyd, Archuleta, Patten, Pierce, etc). Maybe they can learn from this and work a bit smarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titaw Posted March 4, 2007 Author Share Posted March 4, 2007 What about John Hall? what about mark brunell :notworthy :laugh: :notworthy :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Good post, and I'd absolutely love to have Shawne Merriman but as long as nothing happens to Shawn Springs, our secondary will be pretty strong with Smooth on to add depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuji869 Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 An if it is Fred Smoot not Carlos Rogers in the Seattle Playoff Game he holds on the the INT and takes it to the house and not drops it like Carlos and the Redskins beat the Seahawks and face Carolina in the NFC Championship Game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inferno Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 We still had Arrington though, so why would we have taken a tweener LB? We might have taken, gulp, Mike Williams instead. That's exactly right - we weren't looking at Merriman in that draft - if we hadn't gone with Rogers, MIKE WILLIAMS would have been a 'Skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach2128 Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Hindsight is 20/20, u have no idea a domino effect like that would have taken place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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