TODD Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 The last two years we were a LOT better against the run, especially on the left side. At least some of our prior success can be attributed to Renaldo Wynn's strength against the run. Although he is a relatively benign pass rusher, Carter and Holdman's side is getting ravaged on 1st and 2nd down, and we aren't going to any games letting mediocre backs like Cadillac run on us like that. Furthermore, it's not like Carter has played remarkably well, even on 5 to 7 step drops. He's been average, although improving slightly. I'm not sure that his pass-rushing prospects are worth the time of possession we are losing on account of him and Warrick. It's time to give Renaldo some more reps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meek Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 What pass rushing ability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 What pass rushing ability? Exactly what I was going to say Shawn Springs had 6 sacks in 2004. I don't think Carter will reach that number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Made Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Andre Carter should be used as a situational pass rusher from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I could understand the question better if he had 10+ sacks. For him to be worth his cap hit despite being very bad against the run he'd have to be dominant. He isn't even an average pass rusher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Lover Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I like the UNC logo. I'm a tarheel! Andre Carter is a bum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoCommiesGo Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 What pass rushing ability? Beat me to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCsportsfan53 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 He has pass rushing abilities? In all seriousness, I think our LBs have been a bigger portion of the problem in the run game. Against Tampa, the DL did a decent job stacking up blockers and getting penetration but the LBs were late getting to the holes and when they did get there, they were driven back like blocking sleds. All that said, Andre Carter is the weak link on the D line in the running game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCRoughrider Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 What pass rushing ability? Exactly what I was going to say Add me to the question club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzah Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Put him at Linebacker... even if he doesnt like it :laugh: Heres a question though. Last year we had no pass rush, this year we have no pass rush with some additions. Could it be the coaching/scheme that doesnt help get that much d-line pressure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexxskins Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 What pass rushing ability?That was the very first question that came to mind when I read the thread title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexxskins Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 But don't forget, he worked his but off during the offseason and was always first on and last to leave the practice field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
909997 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 pass rush whats that? the only thing i see is rush and its from the other team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt'n Obvious Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 What pass rushing ability? Exactly. Maybe Renaldo should get some more reps, move Andre to LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IChiefLikeCP26 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Put him at Linebacker... even if he doesnt like it :laugh:Heres a question though. Last year we had no pass rush, this year we have no pass rush with some additions. Could it be the coaching/scheme that doesnt help get that much d-line pressure? Thank God someone else sees what I see. It's the scheme, and it doesn't help that Carter plays with Holdman on his side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCRoughrider Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Do we know that he doesn't want to play linebacker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Do we know that he doesn't want to play linebacker? How much is he making? Tell him to shut the **** up and play wherever Williams says to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 How much is he making?Tell him to shut the **** up and play wherever Williams says to. The Forty Whiners tried that strategy with him already and he sucked at LB. He may shut up, and he may play wherever Williams says, but he most likely isn't going to be very good at it. Sooo Spaceman. How's that whole square peg in a round hole strategy working out in other areas? I'm sure that eventually your keys will work upside down in your locks IF you push hard enough on them. And that driving on the left side of the road thing, just stick with it. They do it in Great Britain, so if you just keep doing it, eventually the other drivers will just shut up and get with the program. Yeah, riiiight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiplohmillers#1 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Ability and Andre Carter do not go together. Perhaps you should re phrase. Does Andre Carters Inabilty to rush the passer contribute to his inability to stop the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejaydana Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Can we move him to LB? He's fairly light to play the line and more of a hybrid type player. Or will this just make our coaches/mgmt look bad (once again)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 It's kind of funny, but I can actually remember him making more plays against the run than against the pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkskin Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Damn I'm tired of hearing about 'the system' - players not systems win games. You pick the system that gives the players the best opportunity to win - and currently, i'm sad to say, GW isnt making the necessary amendments to his system.....e.g. Carter has struggled against the run - so take him out in obvious running situations and/or at least put a linebacker behind him who can run and tackle!! As for the AA situation - dont get me started! AA is exactly as advertised...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapitalDefense Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Do you wonder why San Fran moved him to Linebacker now? Looks like Nolan was smarter then GW this time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitejimmy Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Damn I'm tired of hearing about 'the system' - players not systems win games. You pick the system that gives the players the best opportunity to win - and currently, i'm sad to say, GW isnt making the necessary amendments to his system.....e.g. Carter has struggled against the run - so take him out in obvious running situations and/or at least put a linebacker behind him who can run and tackle!!As for the AA situation - dont get me started! AA is exactly as advertised...... Good points. I'll buy it. Stubbornness on GW's part is probably the problem here. The liabilities of AC and AA were well documented before they got here. How can we be surprised? Why is AC being asked to be a stop-the-run-first kind of DE? Why was AA heavy involved in coverage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 seriously i would be satisfied if we stop the run now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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