RedskinzOwnU Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 Might as well play him. Let's make sure this guy really sucks before we ship him out. Our secondary still sucks, so maybe he wasn't all to blame after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the burgundy and gold Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 i actually agree, the seasons lost we need to see if Archuleta was just struggling with our defense to start the year or if he can actaully play in our defense half decently cuz if not he should be cut next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 Randle El has been the only bright spot among the free agents this year. Campbell did'nt see him wide open for a deep gain on one play, but thats understandable. Jason showed enough promise to keep me interested. Lets just hope this is the start of a better year next year. A strong finish by Campbell would energize all of us fans. Check out this article from one of the previous threads: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/23/AR2006112301041_3.html Look on page 2 down at the bottom. "Jaws" goes through this play with quite a bit of scrutiny and shows that it was mostly the OL's fault and not Campbell's. An excerpt: "In the far slot, Randle El runs a deep post across the field, 10 yards past Cooley. But the safety in coverage, Phillips, follows Cooley underneath, leaving Randle El wide open in the seam at the 10-yard line. But at the line of scrimmage, Sellers, Jansen and Thomas allow two Tampa Bay defenders -- Spires and Jon Bradley -- to beat them and rush Campbell." Basically 3 guys were beaten by 2 defenders who got to Campbell before he could make the play to Randle El. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RedskinsB40 Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 all ya'll do on this site is bust on Archuleta. I thought we were 'skins fans but all everyone is talking about is running all the players out of here. We will never be good if we cant get teams together and play like a team. Thats why we suck because NO ONE is playing like a team. This year your saying AA next year it'll be someone else. We need players to play together for more than a season but what the hell do i know im 17. Look at college teams they play as a team and with heart. AA states that he wants to play the game of football and its his true passion...any other player saying that? Keep bashin on them though and maybe we'll get players who arent physically able to play the game of football, are injured, and have NO heart. We are headed on the right track. how are we gonna go to the the super bowl our 1st year with a new off coordinator...when you get a new job do you instantly become a manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 I don't think Arch is solely to blame for the defense's poor pass defense. This may sound like a mountain of excuses, but 1) this is his first year in this defense, 2) ST and Rogers have given up their fair share of long passes, 3) benching Arch hasn't made our pass D any better, and 4) Arch is known to be a run-stopper and blitzer, not a cover safety - he needs to roam near the LOS. The commentary I've seen suggests that GW has been exclusively operating out of a modified cover-2 to stop the run. Seems like a faulty way to use Arch. Since the front 7 haven't done much to stop the run out of a cover-2, GW asked the safeties to give run support, which makes them susceptible to deep passes and breakdowns in coverage. At this point, you could either blame Arch (for being weak in coverage) or the system (for knowing this, recruiting Arch anyway, and setting him up for failure). Personally, I think both sides are to blame. GW said today that he has a lot of respect for coaches who don't try to force rigid systems down players' throats, but instead try to fit systems to match players' strengths. Maybe he should modify his system to fit Arch's strengths, and perhaps Arch should also learn to distinguish between run and pass better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMBAdict04 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Don't even need to read the post...Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tn_skin_fan_21 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 when was he ever good with passing but he did help with the run. we all know that and im sure gw did so its more on gw then aa i mean did he get paid all that just to help with the run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskin81 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 His poor play has earned him his spot on the bench. Thats Whitten play alone in the Dallas game was a perfect example as to why he is such a liability in the secondary. Love Smith feel free to take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbuzz1962 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Archuletta made his bed. He had his chance and blew it. How many times do you need to see this guy chasing the receivers he was suppose to cover? He is terrible. One of the worst cover safety, corner back, whatever he plays, He is just terrible. An embarassment to the team. The only thing that needs to happen to him, is an axe at the end of the season. Look, I am just calling it like I see it. Adam has been one, if not the worst defensive secondary players in the league this year. With the money he got, he should of come into this season blazing. He is blazing alright, from the damn receivers that burn the crap out of him week in and week out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brave Little Toaster Oven Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Go read the ESPN article, it tells you everything, all of our troubles can be blame on Williams arrogance, not Archuleta. I think next year, Arch will be ready to prove everybody wrong...with a different DC in DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsWizCubsDukes Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Play him, we can't start Vincent Fox. We need to at least see if Archuleta can play, this guy is right...put him in coach...our pass defense still sucks without him in the game, we might as well get some more run support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiswadeness Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Couldn't AA be used almost like a Mlb, maybe rotating with Marshall? AA is about the same size as Zack Thomas. Not saying he is nearly as good. He is much better against the run than in coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUforREDSKINS Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 AA is better but now AA has become a scapegoat (like the article said) and Williams is making an example out of him. He won't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalczak Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Wow, how many players have to be 'Lavar'ed' before we start to see big name players avoid coming to DC? I said the same thing last year before the whole Lavar situation completely exploded. If we start to have a string of 'previously talented' players PAYING to get out of DC, dont you think that is going to start sending up red flags for other players? And its not like players on different teams dont talk. Word gets around. Everyone criticizes players like Pierce, Smoot, and Arrington who speak out against the Skins organization when they leave, but its starting to look more and more like they've been right all along. Where there is smoke, there is fire. Next year, if AA is looking to desperating get out of DC, that will just add more fuel to the fire. All of these things are symptomatic of a much bigger problem in DC. Things need to change from the top down. I believe that AA, like Arrington, has not been playing his best football here recently, but after a while it becomes harder and harder to accept that these players suddenly forget how to play and now 'suck'. Eventually have to look deeper than the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swisha Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 I don't think Arch is solely to blame for the defense's poor pass defense. This may sound like a mountain of excuses, but 1) this is his first year in this defense, 2) ST and Rogers have given up their fair share of long passes, 3) benching Arch hasn't made our pass D any better, and 4) Arch is known to be a run-stopper and blitzer, not a cover safety - he needs to roam near the LOS. I completely agree. The last couple of games, our defense struggled horribly to stop the run - something we were pretty solid at with AA in the line up, not to mention it is AA's strength. ST gives up as many big plays as AA, and, from this season so far, I have to say AA is a more sure tackler than ST (because ST takes bad angles and goes for the big hits). I'm not suggesting we bench ST also (I'm not crazy), but it's clear AA is not the reason this defense is struggling. I think it's idiotic to bench AA, espescially with our season being basically over. Chances are AA will be back here next season because of his contract. Why not let him learn the system and work on his game more instead of starting Fox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECU-ALUM Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Wow, how many players have to be 'Lavar'ed' before we start to see big name players avoid coming to DC? I said the same thing last year before the whole Lavar situation completely exploded.If we start to have a string of 'previously talented' players PAYING to get out of DC, dont you think that is going to start sending up red flags for other players? And its not like players on different teams dont talk. Word gets around. Everyone criticizes players like Pierce, Smoot, and Arrington who speak out against the Skins organization when they leave, but its starting to look more and more like they've been right all along. Where there is smoke, there is fire. Next year, if AA is looking to desperating get out of DC, that will just add more fuel to the fire. All of these things are symptomatic of a much bigger problem in DC. Things need to change from the top down. I believe that AA, like Arrington, has not been playing his best football here recently, but after a while it becomes harder and harder to accept that these players suddenly forget how to play and now 'suck'. Eventually have to look deeper than the players. Very well said...I agree with you 100%. :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmorina69 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 No way. AA is just another example of a player the skins paid way too much for , and is obviously past his prime. Giving up huge pass plays to TE's in critical situations has earned him his rightful spot on the bench. And furthermore , Carlos Rogers' play has gotten worse and worse. Joey " old man" Galloway absolutely torched rogers for a TD. Rogers was beat so bad, he just gave up on the play. Scheme or player? who knows. I do understand that our SERIOUS lack of pass rush is killing the rest of our Defense. Randle El has been the only bright spot among the free agents this year. Campbell did'nt see him wide open for a deep gain on one play, but thats understandable. Jason showed enough promise to keep me interested. Lets just hope this is the start of a better year next year. A strong finish by Campbell would energize all of us fans.Hail. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelarkascend1ng Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Go read the ESPN article, it tells you everything, ohhhh okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLusby Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 AA hasn't played as bad as Carlos Rodgers I totally agree. Rogers runs up to tackle and sees a blocker and dives at the blockers feet. He's been pathetic! We need to play AA since we are out of the playoffs and maybe he will play better whereby we can trade him or keep him for one more year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatboy41 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 I think we should play AA. He has sucked, but I haven't given up on him yet. Play him. He may want to prove something, he may do well... and if he does, he may actually become a PART of this team, and if he plays well he may become a large part of this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brave Little Toaster Oven Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 ohhhh okay. What are you " ohhhh oking" about? It's true, that guy is a reliable source who used to work for the Wshington Post and has many friends within the organization. Do you really believe that the whole defense sucks because of a couple players? Hell no, it's the coaches, Williams and the safeties coach for the most part, are why the defense sucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejaydana Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 He was a $30 million dollar mistake you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor 36 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 After reading Tom Friend's article, I think we should play AA. I don't think his play is as much his fault as it is the coaches (defensive, of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidFan Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Joey G. is still lightning fast....to act like he's a has been and not a playmaker is ridiculous. Speed Kills Still! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aghar Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 I will not sit here and say that I believe AA is worth the money he recieved in his contract. However, I do think that anyone that feels Vernon Fox should start ahead of him has completely lost their mind. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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