Stigmata Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 You won’t see the mainstream media reporting who Nancy Pelosi is. By Mick Gregory I know quite a bit about her, having lived and worked in her San Francisco district. You won’t see the San Francisco Chronicle or New York Times mentioning that she is a multi-millionaire from earnings on her non-union Napa Valley winerey and resort hotel. Yet, the soon-to-be-crowned Speaker, gets one of the largest shares of union campaign money. Your 68-year-old grandmother hasn’t spent as much on her home as 68-year-old Nancy Pelosi has on facelifts. Democrats are America’s neo-progressives, better known as socialists. I lived in Nancy Peloci’s San Francisco, where transsexuals are given special status along with all the other classes of minorities and the city is a “sactuary city” for illegals. Do you think I am exagerating? Progressive Democrats are America’s Democrat/Socialists — Google it for yourself. Why doesn’t the LA Times with it’s 950-person newsroom devote an afternoon of a reporter’s time to check into this? Socialism in America is growing. Aided by such influential Congressmen as John Conyers, Ranking Member of the House Judicial Committee, and the one who will start impeachment proceedings against George Bush in the coming months. Nancy Pelosi is one of the stars of the nearly 60 other Democrats advancing socialism in America behind the “Progressive” label. Here are a few excerpts taken directly from the web page of the Democratic Socialists of America. “The Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) is the largest socialist organization in the United States, and the principal U.S. affiliate of the Socialist International. DSA’s members are building progressive movements for social change while establishing an openly socialist presence in American communities and politics. “At the root of our socialism is a profound commitment to democracy, as means and end. We are activists committed not only to extending political democracy but to demanding democratic empowerment in the economy, in gender relations, and in culture. Democracy is not simply one of our political values but our means of restructuring society. Our vision is of a society in which people have a real voice in the choices and relationships that affect the entirety of our lives. We call this vision democratic socialism - a vision of a more free, democratic and humane society. 0. We are socialists because we reject an international economic order sustained by private profit, alienated labor, race and gender discrimination, environmental destruction, and brutality and violence in defense of the status quo. 0. We are socialists because we share a vision of a humane international social order based both on democratic planning and market mechanisms to achieve equitable distribution of resources, meaningful work, a healthy environment, sustainable growth, gender and racial equality, and non-oppressive relationships.” Here is what “Liberty” looks like to a socialist: “A democratic commitment to a vibrant pluralist life assumes the need for a democratic, responsive, and representative government to regulate the market, protect the environment, and ensure a basic level of equality and equity for each citizen. In the 21st century, such regulation will increasingly occur through international, multilateral action. But while a democratic state can protect individuals from domination by inordinately powerful, undemocratic transnational corporations, people develop the social bonds that render life meaningful only through cooperative, voluntary relationships. Promoting such bonds is the responsibility of socialists and the government alike. “The social welfare programs of government have been for the most part positive, if partial, responses to the genuine social needs of the great majority of Americans. The dismantling of such programs by conservative and corporate elites in the absence of any alternatives will be disastrous. Abandoning schools, health care, and housing, for example, to the control of an unregulated free market magnifies the existing harsh realities of inequality and injustice.” The action agenda posted on the socialists’ web site very closely parallels Agenda 21, and the recommendations of the President’s Council on Sustainable Development. The web site boasts the creation of the “Progressive Caucus” in Congress, as well as the coalition that is working to promote the socialist agenda in Congress. Now you know that the third person in line for the Presidency is a socialist. Secret Service, please make sure that President Bush and Dick Chaney are not ever again with in a mile of each other for the next two years. Imagine this, the Democrats impeach George Bush for invading Iraq, Dick Cheney becomes president, he dies of a heart attack within weeks because of his spike in blood pressure. Nancy Pelosi becomes the first women President of the United States, and another first of much more import, America’s first Progressive Democrat president. Sources: http://www.dsausa.org/dsa.html, www.sovereignty.net/center/socialists.htm The Constitution, Free enterprise, ownership, ect is under assault. The leaders of the Democratic party truly are socialists (communists) its that simple. The average joe democrat in this country blogs, fights, posts, defends, smears, etc etc on behalf of a real and true socialist agenda and they either don't know it (most likely) or they do know it. Ronald Reagan called the soviet union the evil empire for a reason. And now the evil empire is hiding behind our own constitution, is setting up shop and gaining ground. And all the while being defended by Americans who cant see the forest through the tress.. Pride makes people not see that what they have believed all there life could be at fault. In my opinion, defense of such things is really self defense. Or they really are socialist minded and wholeheartedly defend these stances, but the denial comes in that its really a communistic view point, admitting that really would seem unamerican wouldn't it? and that's an admission they cant swallow, while at the same time defending those who seek to destroy our constitution, claiming its all American. Ironic how our constitution is being used against it self in a constitutional way as to claim, hey it must be American, the constitution allows us to get away with it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Here are a few excerpts taken directly from the web page of the Democratic Socialists of America. And Nancy is part of this group how? I'm definitely not a fan of hers, but thats quite a jump. Can you link her bills to this somehow? Can you link her time and efforts to this somehow? Can you leave the personal facelifts out of it as its the least informative yet highlighted? We await your reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 The first paragraph and bolded part are a hoot. For years, conservatives have defended rich people for being rich. Heck, your first bulleted point contradicts the first paragraph and the first paragraph contradicts the entire thesis. Does it speak badly to her vanity that she has spent so much on cosmetic surgery. Sure, it does. Does it point to a socialistic or evil nature that she's vain? Hardly. For the past six years any villification of our leaders was heralded as treason. Isn't it amazing how quickly the worm turns. Oh, and one last thing... I'm just getting really tired of you guys proving to me how wrong I am. Clearly, the press is one monolithic, one-minded liberal bias machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stigmata Posted November 13, 2006 Author Share Posted November 13, 2006 Had to take a show so i can go to work, ill play later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Oooh, if I find some juicy quotes from the web site of the People's Communist Party, can I prove that the people of the United States are Communist? I'm also enjoying the "defamation by income" of Pelosi. Worked real well in '04, when the GOP was smearing Kerry because his wife was rich, and only paid 13% of her income as taxes. (While ignoring the point that if elected, Kerry had promised to raise his wife's taxes, whereas the GOP is continuing to claim that Theresa shouldn't pay any.) Quick, tell me again about how terrible it is the way those communist Democrats are always resorting to "class warfare". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanCollins Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 we're getting a close look at how kooky these republicans really are :munchout: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 The persons name is Stigmata... lets not group all people based on that Dean... He's an bitter man with sore hands and feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexey Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Democrats are America’s neo-progressives, better known as socialists. I lived in Nancy Peloci’s San Francisco, where transsexuals are given special status along with all the other classes of minorities and the city is a “sactuary city” for illegals. Illegal immigrant socialist transsexuals :paranoid: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Illegal immigrant socialist transsexuals :paranoid: Teenage Mutant Nija Turtles... When whatshisname invented them he reportedly did so because he thought it was the most absurd mixture of verbs. Illegal Immigrant Socialist Transsexuals might also make a very interesting Super Hero group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass_SkinsFan Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles... When whatshisname invented them he reportedly did so because he thought it was the most absurd mixture of verbs. Illegal Immigrant Socialist Transsexuals might also make a very interesting Super Hero group. Sounds much more like a group of Super VILLIANS, not heroes, to me Burgold. Maybe they could be the enemy for a new hero named "Captain Conservative". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 That could work too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass_SkinsFan Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 That could work too... I don't read a whole lot of comic books but something tells me neither Marvel nor DC would touch that title with a 10 foot pole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinz4evr Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Living in SanFran is probably enough to make anyone crazy. However, if Nancy was catering to degenerates(transexuals) and illegals and giving minorities special status(instead of equal) that does not bode well for someone who is directing the House. You said she made millions off of her non-union winery. Was it non-union because illegals were predominantly employed? If so that would exhibit a disregard for the law to obtain profit- Oh :censored: did I just describe every politician in Washington? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Well, probably not, but Captain America has been a mainstay and important character since WWII. Of course, you'll note that Cap has a shield but no guns. Real Americans don't need no stinking guns, they can take on all those Nazi/Commie/Terroristie cowards with their bare hands and a little ingenuity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Living in SanFran is probably enough to make anyone crazy. However, if Nancy was catering to degenerates(transexuals) and illegals and giving minorities special status(instead of equal) that does not bode well for someone who is directing the House. You said she made millions off of her non-union winery. Was it non-union because illegals were predominantly employed? If so that would exhibit a disregard for the law to obtain profit- Oh :censored: did I just describe every politician in Washington? It was probably non-union because she is a captalist maximizing her profits. I wouldn't be surprised if there were a ton of illegal grape pickers though. Would anybody? I still think this complaint though is the height of hypocrisy for any pro-business Republican. Plus, if she's not using unions how does that make her more socialist???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass_SkinsFan Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Well, probably not, but Captain America has been a mainstay and important character since WWII. Of course, you'll note that Cap has a shield but no guns. Real Americans don't need no stinking guns, they can take on all those Nazi/Commie/Terroristie cowards with their bare hands and a little ingenuity. Burgold, you've hit upon one of my favorite comic book characters from my youth. Cap and Batman were the only two comics I ever read with any reguluarity. Punisher, who everyone thinks I would have loved never really interested me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Judges Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 She had a facelift? Oh man that is the last straw I HATE HER NOW!!:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass_SkinsFan Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 She had a facelift? Oh man that is the last straw I HATE HER NOW!!:doh: My thoughts have been... She had a facelift? Damn I hope she didn't pay much for it, because it didn't work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stigmata Posted November 13, 2006 Author Share Posted November 13, 2006 Its hard to accept i know guys, hard to accept you support socialistic ideals, hard to accept that if you look at the American communist charter and there ambitions for America and how they will infiltrate our system of society, its the Democrats that carry this banner (wittingly, or unwittingly) You don't have to accept it i know, its just a fact plain and simple. ignorance doesn't make it ok, ignorance doesn't mean "hey there intentions are good" so i will support something that's bad, only because its hidden on the face of innocence. Personally i fell they know exactly what they are doing. Doesn't matter to me if they associate in title with these groups, they are doing there bidding. and you who defend there action defend that agenda. Its funny how the 3rd rail of politics to the Democrats is activism. The 3rd rail for me as a conservative is true interpretation of the constitution. Not what we think it should mean, not what the flavor of the month is or how can the system skirt the constitution with a decision that harms the letter of the constitution, and all in the name of? what? special interest Power, Abortion, ect. The fear of a conservative court system is bred by the truth that in order to defang America and its democracy we cant allow strict interpretation. Its like you setting rules for your kids and writing them down, then your kids go the the neighbors house to pass a flawed judgment on what the rules mean. please commence with the name calling its what the pure as wind driven snow ethical democrats do best.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 I am sorry, I just don't see THIS version of the Democratic Party carrying any sort of socialist, or quite honestly liberal banner If they do, they'll quickly get voted out in 2008, because guys like Heath Shuler, who happens to be pro-guns, anti-abortion, pro-God, will either A) not let it happen or lose his election when his challenger says he went to Washington and became Nancy Pelosi Now of course, the anti-war people I met on Thursday evening, may have a different thought on this. But my thought, they will still vote for D's no matter what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stigmata Posted November 13, 2006 Author Share Posted November 13, 2006 The title of my thread is telling, its the under the table movement.. You really think Nacy and crew will come out and say HEY EVERYONE in America we are socialists and are trying to make this a socialist society. I'm not paranoid but the facts are the facts this is whats going on in America right now. Don't take my word for it ( as i know you wouldn't anyway) take a serious look at the political movements and what the intentions are. Most have a pretty face, but look at the people pushing these agendas and there back grounds, who they affiliate with ect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 My thoughts have been...She had a facelift? Damn I hope she didn't pay much for it, because it didn't work! :laugh: Says the man with no sence of humor. Admit it! That was a joke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass_SkinsFan Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 :laugh: Says the man with no sence of humor. Admit it! That was a joke! No, says one of the few people on the planet who could compete with her in an "Ugly" contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Aha! Another joke. You are on a roll today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass_SkinsFan Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Aha! Another joke. You are on a roll today! Burgold, relax. Take a deep breath. Quiet your mind. I am being totally serious. Nancy Pelosi is one of the few people on the planet I think I might be able to beat out in a beauty contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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