MurrayH81 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Its hard to accept i know guys, hard to accept you support socialistic ideals, hard to accept that if you look at the American communist charter and there ambitions for America and how they will infiltrate our system of society, its the Democrats that carry this banner (wittingly, or unwittingly) You don't have to accept it i know, its just a fact plain and simple. ignorance doesn't make it ok, ignorance doesn't mean "hey there intentions are good" so i will support something that's bad, only because its hidden on the face of innocence. Personally i fell they know exactly what they are doing. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I am sure that some liberals, some democrats and some people unaffiliate with either party support socialist/communist philosophies. They can believe in the tooth fairy too. As long as they don't violate any laws, or otherwise hurt people, it's their business. Doesn't matter to me if they associate in title with these groups, they are doing there bidding. and you who defend there action defend that agenda. Its funny how the 3rd rail of politics to the Democrats is activism. The 3rd rail for me as a conservative is true interpretation of the constitution. Not what we think it should mean, not what the flavor of the month is or how can the system skirt the constitution with a decision that harms the letter of the constitution, and all in the name of? what? special interest Power, Abortion, ect. and this is different from the last 5 years of Republican dominated abuse of our Constitution how? It' a hard toss-up to call. A quasi-religous authoritarian dictatorship happening right now, or a socialist brotherhood society of the deranged that may happen later. Two sides of a coin I don't want to flip. [/quote=Stigmata]The fear of a conservative court system is bred by the truth that in order to defang America and its democracy we cant allow strict interpretation. The only person doing any interpretation during the last 5 years has been George Bush, just have a look at the signing statements he has been attaching to legislation coming from a Republican congress. Go ahead please and find a Constitutional reference (in Section II) to the "Unitary Executive Branch" anywhere, to prove me wrong. Its like you setting rules for your kids and writing them down, then your kids go the the neighbors house to pass a flawed judgment on what the rules mean. please commence with the name calling its what the pure as wind driven snow ethical democrats do best.. Sorry to disappoint you, but there is no name calling herein, and I am a registered Republican :cool:, although, admittedly a poor one according to some I am sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 My thoughts have been...She had a facelift? Damn I hope she didn't pay much for it, because it didn't work! Mass, you made a joke. A funny joke. Holy smoke. I don't even know what to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tizzod Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Illegal immigrant socialist transsexuals :paranoid: The name of my next band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass_SkinsFan Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Mass, you made a joke.A funny joke. Holy smoke. I don't even know what to say. GOOD GRIEF!!! I try to make a serious statement and all I get is comments on my wonderful "joke". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 GOOD GRIEF!!! I try to make a serious statement and all I get is comments on my wonderful "joke". Because it was funny and I laffed. This thread isn't worthy of serious responses. The original post was so stupid, misinformed and shallow that joking was inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanCollins Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 GOOD GRIEF!!! I try to make a serious statement and all I get is comments on my wonderful "joke". MSF, I think quite a few tailgaters find your posts humorous, I don't mean that as an insult. You have that classic deadpan delivery of say rodney dangerfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 GOOD GRIEF!!! I try to make a serious statement and all I get is comments on my wonderful "joke". There's an old phrase about the line between comedy and tragedy being razor thin... sorry, but the fact that you felt the need to make a "serious" statement about Nancy's facelift is in itself kinda funny. Although, that's different than a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stigmata Posted November 14, 2006 Author Share Posted November 14, 2006 Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I am sure that some liberals, some democrats and some people unaffiliated with either party support socialist/communist philosophies. They can believe in the tooth fairy too. As long as they don't violate any laws, or otherwise hurt people, it's their business.and this is different from the last 5 years of Republican dominated abuse of our Constitution how? It' a hard toss-up to call. A quasi-religious authoritarian dictatorship happening right now, or a socialist brotherhood society of the deranged that may happen later. Two sides of a coin I don't want to flip. [/quote=Stigmata]The fear of a conservative court system is bred by the truth that in order to defang America and its democracy we cant allow strict interpretation. The only person doing any interpretation during the last 5 years has been George Bush, just have a look at the signing statements he has been attaching to legislation coming from a Republican congress. Go ahead please and find a Constitutional reference (in Section II) to the "Unitary Executive Branch" anywhere, to prove me wrong. Its like you setting rules for your kids and writing them down, then your kids go the the neighbors house to pass a flawed judgment on what the rules mean. please commence with the name calling its what the pure as wind driven snow ethical democrats do best.. Sorry to disappoint you, but there is no name calling herein, and I am a registered Republican :cool:, although, admittedly a poor one according to some I am sure. If having to change any law that should be obvious, in that its absurd a law would have been changed in the first place that would require that Bush change anything at all. Did we not have Japanese internment camps in America during ww2? Did Roosevelt have to get the permission of congress to interrogate? Did Roosevelt feel a need to read miranda rights to prisoners of war? I mean PLEASE.. IF we could go back in time the common sense American people of the 40s and 50s would be appalled at the lengths we go to, to protect criminals, terrorist and just plain prisoners of war.. The attitudes of many in Americans is just plain ridiculous and stupid, to the point its surreal even.. But not now man we have to make darn sure we are fair to people or criminals that would 5 min before they were captured slaughter our whole family.. WTF is wrong with people?? ITS WAR not patty cakes. George Bush has the power to destroy whole city's, but he cant listen in on the enemy??????? The powers that be (the ones referred to earlier) scream injustice saying our rights have been violated, while getting activist Judges who use the very constitution that protects us and use it against us and its the democratic party that's leading the way... If you were traveling in the Mid east with your wife and 2 kids, and some terrorist captured your 2 15/17 year old daughters and your trophy wife, and threatened to do what they will then behead them.. Would you think hmmm well fighting back is difficult because i might break some laws against humanity, i mean are not the people who kidnapped your family humans? Don't they have rights? Are they just defending there homeland? For me i would do all it takes to free them.. and ya know, there are many in the world who feel this oppression due to the likes of Saddam and the governments of the oppressive nature of Islam. But we have America, home of the free and the brave, and we are treated like criminals by the Progressive Democratic party.. Its appalling really to think George Bush would have to break laws to protect the United States against an enemy that attacked us. because apparently Roosevelt didn't have these laws to deal with. The Roosevelt democratic party is GONE and now the left are defending the enemy. The left are attacking a sitting president during a time of war, there really is nothing more insidious then that in politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfitzo53 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Did we not have Japanese internment camps in America during ww2? Did Roosevelt have to get the permission of congress to interrogate? Did Roosevelt feel a need to read miranda rights to prisoners of war? I mean PLEASE.. IF we could go back in time the common sense American people of the 40s and 50s would be appalled at the lengths we go to, to protect criminals, terrorist and just plain prisoners of war.. The attitudes of many in Americans is just plain ridiculous and stupid, to the point its surreal even.. I'm not sure what your point is here. Are you saying the internment camps were a good idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurrayH81 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Stigmata- Sorry you are missing my point, and making out as if I am saying things that I am not. I wholly supported (and still do support) the effort to go after those responsible for 9/11. Unfortunately, prior to our actions there, Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks or al-Queida. Now terrorists there are sprouting like daisies. I hope you see the difference. You don't get to beat a dog with a stick in it's own yard, run to your yard with it chasing you, and then shoot it with any degree of moral justification. We had, and still do have plenty of work to do to: 1. Finish the job in Afghanistan, 2. Finish off al-Queida, 3. Secure the borders of our nation, our citizens, and our vital infrastructure. We are largely ignoring 1 & 2 (according to the President), and we have done absolutely nothing of any real consequence on item 3. I have no problem with the President listening in on terrorist conversations. I do have a problem with him determinnig what constitutes a terrorist, what he can do with any data collected, even if it's not about terrorists, and how long he can keep it. There is absolutely no oversight for that. GWB alone is making all the determinations, and decisions. and I can't tolerate that from a man (or party) who out and out lied to me and the rest of the people of this country, when he didn't need to do so, and it has cost us so dearly in terms of our present and our future. and btw, I don't have a trophy wife, nor would I be dumb enough to travel to the Middle East. /hail:helmet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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