DjTj Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Uh, Big Ben.And our problem might not be Ryan Clark but the Big Boonell ... or injuries on defense ... or more likely a combination of things.Exactly, and he made the calls in the 2ndary alignment, and his "void" was filled with an IMMENSE amount of cap space on one player, who is at best just as ineffective.I pointed out in another thread yesterday that Ryan Clark's cap number is about $1.1 million and Archuleta's cap number is about $1.9 million. There's nothing immense about that:http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3140800#post3140800 If Ryan Clark were still here, I guarantee people would be complaining about how we DIDN'T sign Archuleta. There is more than one thing wrong with this team, especially on defense. Trying to pin it on one player is foolish IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxSpearheadxX Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 And our problem might not be Ryan Clark but the Big Boonell ... or injuries on defense ... or more likely a combination of things.I pointed out in another thread yesterday that Ryan Clark's cap number is about $1.1 million and Archuleta's cap number is about $1.9 million. There's nothing immense about that: http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3140800#post3140800 If Ryan Clark were still here, I guarantee people would be complaining about how we DIDN'T sign Archuleta. There is more than one thing wrong with this team, especially on defense. Trying to pin it on one player is foolish IMO. You do realize that Archuleta's cap number will accelerate immensley next year - and as the Redskins use these tricks to fill their cap space - he affects players that could have been signed this year. Seeing as the Steelers and Redskins structure their caps differently, to compare raw #s between the 2 is ridiculous. You would have to adjust Ryan's #s into the Redskins style of structuring the cap, which would reduce his non bonus "salary" signifigantly, and therefore his cap $. Nobody is "pinning" anything on one player. Bottom line is Archuleta has been a HUGE dissapointment, not only in his coverage, but the fact that Sean is being relied upon to align the defense, a role he at 23 years old is not ready for yet. He may never be the destructive force in the 2ndary he is while being the QB of the 2ndary, it might just not happen. That is fine, but right now he is directing traffic back there, especially archuleta and Wright, and it is a problem. Holdman is 90% of the reason runs to the weakside have been dominating the skins, and at least half the reason TEs and RBs have had a field day against the skins. It is the truth, in the same way that the Offense is limited to Brunell's inability to perform like a true starting NFL QB. You can say this, "We're all in this together" stuff, and thats great everyone can always do a better job (except clinton portis he is always 100%) but if you don't point out the major weaknesses, the chain will always break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmiJo Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Unfortunately, the Steelers are 2-5 right now, as are we... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxSpearheadxX Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Unfortunately, the Steelers are 2-5 right now, as are we... their defense held Oakland to 92 yards of offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVA2Tampa Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Unfortunately, the Steelers are 2-5 right now, as are we... WERD...I don't feel so bad about the Redskins being 2-5 right now after seeing that...not great, mind you...but not so bad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVA2Tampa Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 their defense held Oakland to 92 yards of offense. Actually, Oakland had 132 yards of total offense against Pittsburgh. Of course, Big Ben got picked twice for TDs, one for 100 yards...that's why they lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjTj Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 You do realize that Archuleta's cap number will accelerate immensley next year - and as the Redskins use these tricks to fill their cap space - he affects players that could have been signed this year.Actually, Archuleta's cap number will only go up by $100k next year. It will go up by $500k the next year but the big hit will be the year after that, when we will probably restructure or cut him. Seeing as the Steelers and Redskins structure their caps differently, to compare raw #s between the 2 is ridiculous. I don't really know how else to compare players other than their cap numbers. It's certainly more accurate than going by the contract numbers reported in the press. You're probably right that Clark's cap number would be smaller if he were a Redskin, but probably not significantly so. The fact remains that Archuleta is only countint $1.9 against our cap this year.their defense held Oakland to 92 yards of offense.And how did the Steelers lose the other 4 games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooka Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 I think you may have misunderstood my post, oh well Nawwww son...:paranoid: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
box8276 Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Our biggest loss was A. Pierce. No doubt about it. He is very good in coverage as well as against the run. Lets see, with him marshall would be the wlb, a weakness on our team. He also wouldnt be busting up our run game, cause he wouldnt play for the giants, thus weakening their D. We need a GM in the worst way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonMagicJuan Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 We should have NEVER let Pierce go. BIG mistake! there we go....me and my friends all agreed on that today....that and Ryan Clark were a mistake.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagleskins Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Clark is terrible. He has been getting burnt all year long, and is about to be benched, according to Steelers fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FedEx_Skinz Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Exactly.If Ryan Clark is the reason that we're 2-5, what's the reason that the Steelers are 2-5? Poor QB play? sounds familar, as sad as it is to see the Steelers lose :laugh: they are not getting very good play out of their QB for some reason. Clark is not the reason were 2-5, poor defensive play and to many injuries in the secondary. Our LB's are horrible at stopping the run, biting on runs or getting caught up in traffic. Why isn't Rocky playing more? seems like Lemar or Holdman can't get it done and we all know Marcus can't do it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedlamVR Posted October 30, 2006 Author Share Posted October 30, 2006 Its also quite funny how people are so qucik to jump on Adam, Ryan had 2 years in Williams defence not 7 weeks . Overall the defence is playing poorly and this is not helped by injuries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwills1 Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Of course Clark wasn't as talented as most would have liked, but the guy played hard and he fit in with everyone on the defense......it's obvious we are lacking at that position right now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWARF-HOG Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 I saw the same game (PItt vs ATL.) and I don't think Algae Cuppler knew he was there. 3 tds with Clark holding on to his ankles.:helmet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsWizCubsDukes Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Clark and Pierce are a big reason our defense sucks. What gets me is how they were core guys but they couldn't get the contracts they wanted but everyone else gets overpaid. It's no way anyone can tell me archuleta is 8 million dollars better than clark as far as signing bonus. As we now know clark helped taylor and marshall is no pierce. Marshall also played outside linebacker while pierce was here, and was much better on blitzes and coverage than holdman, and pierce is better than him at stopping the run...ryan clark is not that good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan81 Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Isn't the team Clark is on now 2-5 as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceviker Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 For some reason, our organization does not know how to take care of our own. <sigh> When will we learn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins55 Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Why would anyone blame the defense's problems on one or two guys when it's clearly all the way acrross the board! Those who blame AA are or Ryan Clark should be in a AA meeting.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana_Fan Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Not at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitty71 Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Sorry guys, but Clark is not good, stop overrating the guy. He can't make any open field tackles nor can he cover, especially the deep ball. I watched him all last year and could never understand why you guys kept insisting he was a great player. If anything, he's just an admirable guy.Seriously, give me some examples of how good he was last year and this year. I only saw him a few times this year, again not impressive. A game against Miami this year I saw him get trampled by the runner (I forgot who) twice and overplayed a screen pass that should've been stopped at the line of scrimmage but it turned out to 10+ yards. And no, I'm not saying AA is any better, but he sure does help the run support, something Clark never will be cabable of doing. Oh, and one more thing.. I'm sure I'll get "Clark is a good hitter," yeah, that's after he gets beat on a play or comes from the blind side and unexpected.. So ST and the rest of the players were extremely pissed because we gave an "average" player away? Come on. He was a very good nickel and yes he could cover! Chemistry means a lot on and off the field also. And ST and RC were best friends. First Smoot-then AP-then RC... the dominos fell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammond72 Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 And I believe they were all described as the "type of Redskins we want". Who is next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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