HoyaSkins28 Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 i agree that randle el is overrated but i also think that patten is certainly not better than him. i agree with the Moss, Lloyd, Randle El, Patten... etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxSpearheadxX Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 i agree that randle el is overrated but i also think that patten is certainly not better than him. i agree with the Moss, Lloyd, Randle El, Patten... etc What is it that makes you think he is overrated? I am trying to find all these analysts and experts and mediots who are acting like he is more than he is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPM285181 Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 "And kicks just keep getting harder to find."---Paul Revere and The Raiders. Just follow THEHEREAFTER long enough and you will get all the kicks you need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 Randle El is only overrated if the argument is whether he is a top receiver in the NFL. Of course based on his numbers he has not to this point been a top player. What he has been using a comparison to the NBA is a top 'sixth man'........a guy that comes off the bench and gives a team a boost offensively with his punt returns, catches, runs and throwing ability. Yes, for the contract he signed it was a rich deal for a 40 catch receiver. But for the Redskins, whose receipts are the highest in the NFL, why not make this move to gather in a player that can help win a championship? Let's not pretend this hasn't happened in the past. Teams regularly bring in veteran players that fit a particular niche to help them win in the postseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 "And kicks just keep getting harder to find."---Paul Revere and The Raiders. I like Cheorkee Nation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocono Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 "And kicks just keep getting harder to find."---Paul Revere and The Raiders. Listen Gumbo...I don't know if you're just trolling or intimating that El has failing eyesight but he has never had a problem finding kicks in the past so they shouldn't be "harder to find" in the future. What may apply though is.. "And kicks just keep getting harder to return" because he's going from the Cowher system of special teams to the Danny Smith system and Danny Smith may be the worst ST coach of all time. You see when he was hired by Ray Rhodes as the Eagle's ST coach Rhodes didn't check his resume closely and didn't notice that he coached Special Olympics and not Special Teams at Edinboro State. Smith belongs in a coaching meeting with Gibbs Saunders and Williams about as much as Ruth Bader Ginsburg belongs among the Juggies on The Man Show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffsorbust2005 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 He'll be putting the ball down in your end zone plenty. Thank you for putting Dallas in their place. Reminder to put all everything Dallas in proper trash receptacle before leaving stadium. Thank you. :dallasuck :dallasuck :dallasuck :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins4481 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Who has been signed by the Redskins since 2004 that has sucked and underachieved? David Patten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins4481 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Please stop this nonsense...El is a competitor (ala Gary Clark) and will star as a starter or a part-timer. Of course I got a chance to watch him carry his college team on his back for 4 years so I am biased...but...in my opinion, easily the best acquisition of the 2nd Joe Gibbs era.:logo: :laugh: I understand that he played for Indiana but damn dude. You seem to forget about players like Marcus Washington, Santana Moss, Clinton Portis, Mark Brunell...I think you get the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSkins Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 What is it that makes you think he is overrated? I am trying to find all these analysts and experts and mediots who are acting like he is more than he is? I think it's just the fact that he got an $11 million bonus to be a kick returner and spot wideout. Hell I thought Chad Morton was overpaid. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkosaurus Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 fellow fans,lets just be happy we are talking about are and patten instead of gardner and westbrook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkosaurus Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Ruth Bader Ginsburg belongs among the Juggies on The Man Show. Thanks a lot Pocono...looks like I'll have to wait for breakfast to eat again.... :puke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelHack Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 :laugh: :rotflmao: Man my house was so humid until I read that, your wit so dry and harsh it sucked the moisture right out of the room! I'm sorry man but NOBODY I mean NOBODY runs a 40 sideways the same speed they run it from a sprinting position. That is the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a while. Here are the things that I remember from the time the Steelers drafted EL....they were things that really stood out. He was timed at around 4.42 seconds in the 40, but it was his quickness and elusiveness that made him stand out. At the combine he was tested in the cone drill and his time was so fast that scouts thought they mistimed him. So he did it again, and his time was even faster. When he ran his lateral 40...it was slower than his straight ahead...but not by much...and again was asked to run it again.....and again ran a very impressive run (I should not have typed that it was exactly the same...but my point was that it was so close...no one believed it) and at 5-10....his hands were the same size at 6-5 Plaxico Burress HACK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsDukes Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Coaches saw game tape of Heath Shuler too before they drafted him.... Not these coaches....just for the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingarthur65 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 I think we're going to see a lot of 3WR sets this year. If ARE can be a reliable #3 he will see a lot of playing time. If he can't catch the ball over the middle, we'll go with a more reliable option... Patten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocono Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Thanks a lot Pocono...looks like I'll have to wait for breakfast to eat again.... :puke: Come on....Justices on trampolines.....Picture it....Aren't folks like you from SF used to seeing the unusual? BTW....For those thinking El will come in here after leaving the Steelers and run wild on punt returns. Here are the results of Danny Smith's work in Washington and the two years before that with Williams in Buf. 02 30th 5.2 yds per return 03 31st 6.0 04 20th 7.9 05 28th 6.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy2677 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Yes, Randle El is overrated. I'm still happy we picked him up though. He can catch/run/throw the ball from the Slot and will make defenses think. Not to mention he can do KR/PR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSkins Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 02 30th 5.2 yds per return03 31st 6.0 04 20th 7.9 05 28th 6.0 Danny Smith has had such gamebreaker returners as Nate Clements, Charlie Rogers, James Thrash and Antonio Brown in the past five years. It's not all about how you set up the return. In fact, with punt returns more so than kickoff returns, the pure athletic and return capabilities of your ball carrier are the biggest factor after your opponent's punter's skill. Danny Smith hasn't had anyone with Randle El's potential. I'm not saying Randle El isn't overrated and overpaid, but he's still a definite upgrade over what we've had here both at wideout and at returner. Granted, he's only got a 9.5 career punt return average over four years, but he's got four punt return touchdowns (and a kick return touchdown the only season he did so full time) which counts for something in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blloyd33 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Not to sound harsh but, 11.5 million that Randle El reportedly recieved is guarantee money it is not a signing bonus. Know the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmorina69 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 randle el is not a #1 receiver, but hes definetly not over rated. nailed it, hes good at what he does, witch is KR/ PR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyWilliamsFanClub Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Youre not a speller. In order to be 'overrated' people must say that you are good, or above really good. I never hear the media saying ARE is great, they just say he is versatile. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgundyMalaise Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Theory: Maybe that #82 jersey still has some of Antonio Brown's soul attached to it....was it the pre-season game last year when he dropped like 4-5 balls? Man....then the fumble vs. the Bears in week 1.....seriously, ARE better have a priest stop by Ashburn and sprinkle some of that Holy Water on his jersey to get the demons out.... Do not forget this TD return against Arizona that couldn't have come at a better time. We were playing like **** that game and that pretty much was the catalyst for our winning streak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blloyd33 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Sorry about the spelling. My 2 year old is on my lap helping me type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Indian Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 Im not sure if you all's aware of this but, according to most Steeler fans i've talked to, Randle 'El was the most UNDER thrown receiver in the NFL! For some reason Big Ben could never really hit him in full stride, which says to me that this guy is really quick and fast because Ben has a arm! Anyone remember this play last year in the playoffs? http://www.stillustronic.com/PIonEl.movRandle 'El flew right past Marlin Jackson but because the ball was under thown it wasn't a touchdown. (Btw, you need quicktime in order to download this video. You can download it here http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/win.html) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsknfan Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 My hope is that he will fit in nicely with the organization. If he is overrated, then it will show and adjustments will be made to compensate for that. I am just glad that we have more than just two receivers from last year (Moss, Cooley) to help open up the middle and provide opportunities for more deep pass options. :helmet: :logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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