Oldskool Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 between management and players. Players will get 59.5% of total revenue. cash over cap issue is going to be about 2% then there will be an adjustment on thet eams cap. This has to be ratified and thats the reason for the 72 hour delay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Sportscenter at 1:00 am EST will have all the details...I would presume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted March 6, 2006 Author Share Posted March 6, 2006 There isnt anything more than what im posting. Im listening to Mort right now on Gamenight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shallyshal Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 between management and players. Players will get 59.5% of total revenue.cash over cap issue is going to be about 2% then there will be an adjustment on thet eams cap. This has to be ratified and thats the reason for the 72 hour delay how will the cash over cap agreement affect the skins contracts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Mort was on TV too. So, the skins are limited to cash over cap. If that's the case; then the teams that regularly go cash over cap should've insisted the miminum to be spent raised from whatever it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted March 6, 2006 Author Share Posted March 6, 2006 how will the cash over cap agreement affect the skins contracts ? If a team goes cash over cap, then there will be an adjustment on the teams next years cap depending on now much over the CoC % of 2% that they exceeded. Formula wasnt discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenster95 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Thanks for the update oldskool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da#1skinsfan Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 He also said dont take this as meaning the situation is over, because nothing is certain right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus87 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 So...for a dummy like me...this tentative agreement for the cash over cap situation is a bad thing for the Redskins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted March 6, 2006 Author Share Posted March 6, 2006 He also said dont take this as meaning the situation is over, because nothing is certain right now. Heh that should be a given They will sit down tomorrow afternoon in an attempt to sign the deal lock, stock and barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted March 6, 2006 Author Share Posted March 6, 2006 So...for a dummy like me...this tentative agreement for the cash over cap situation is a bad thing for the Redskins? Simple answer is yes We have been using the Cash over Cap meathod to have our actual payroll much higher than the ~$92m salary cap for a while. However.. If the CBA gives the teams a large increase in the salary cap, the effect on the Redskins will be reduced if not negated. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus87 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Simple answer is yesWe have been using the Cash over Cap meathod to have our actual payroll much higher than the ~$92m salary cap for a while. However.. If the CBA gives the teams a large increase in the salary cap, the effect on the Redskins will be reduced if not negated. :2cents: Ah, so rather than having to use cash over cap, we would just have a larger salary cap ceiling to work with? I like the sounds of that a little better, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted March 6, 2006 Author Share Posted March 6, 2006 Ah, so rather than having to use cash over cap, we would just have a larger salary cap ceiling to work with? I like the sounds of that a little better, thanks. Well in a perfect world yes. WHo knows what the new cap will be IF the CBA gets ratified. We've been "creative" with the cap. lets just say that im sure the FO will figure out how to work out the pentalty of the CoC % against the next years salary cap versus the incremetnal increase of the salary cap that happens every year. Hell this is why they pay capologist the big bucks and im a shmoe behind a computer :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishomelette Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Interesting that your future cap is affected by your Cash over Cap exceeding 2%. So restructuring will turn into a thread the needle type of exercise even moreso than it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaSkin Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Anyone have any idea what the cap will be with a 59.5% figure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDFan5 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 My best guess is about 107 Million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 This "cash over cap" thing is absolutely stupid. In the first year of a big contract, there will be "cash over cap"... but in the following years there is actually "cash under cap"... meaning the money affects the cap, but it's not being paid. Lets say you have $15 million signing bonus for 5 years contract with $1 M base salary each year. First year cash out: $16 M, cap hit, $4M = +$12 M "cash hit" over "cap hit" 2nd-5th year cash out: $1 M, cap hit 4 M = -$3 M "cash hit" under "cap hit" In essence, teams just have to make sure they don't sign a bunch of big name free agents one year. If the cap is $107 M, it will be interesting to see how many teams actually use all that space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 NFL Network is saying on the bottom line that the CBA offer will be reviewed and voted on by the owners during their Owners Meeting on Tuesday. That is the reason, they also say, for the 72 hour delay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korserra Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 So...for a dummy like me...this tentative agreement for the cash over cap situation is a bad thing for the Redskins? I don't see why. We are in potential cap trouble precisely because our cap is full of dead money. This is bonuses paid to departed players and previous year salary payments that were converted to bonuses and rolled forward into 2006. Dead money is not cash for 2006. The Redskins would have to get very busy in free agency to come anywhere near spending as much cash as their cap figure, much less go over. The Arrington deal reduces our cash outlay by another $7M because he doesn't get his July bonus or his salary. All of Arrington's remaining 2006 cap hit is now non-cash dead money. An open question is whether the $4.2M repayment counts as negative cash for accounting purposes. Logically it should but who knows what the rules will say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 between management and players. Players will get 59.5% of total revenue.cash over cap issue is going to be about 2% then there will be an adjustment on thet eams cap. This has to be ratified and thats the reason for the 72 hour delay It will only be ratified if the owners can agree to revenue sharing, or there is no deal. It is now on the owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 In any case, no deal will be ratified unil Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BD Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Maske adds to the reports here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/06/AR2006030600660.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 I listened to Pat Kirwin on Sirrius NFL radio today and that schmuck still maintains the "dire situation" for the Skins even if the cap goes to $110M and the restructures. WTF???? How can they keep saying crap like this when even the average fan can see that it is false?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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