Winslowalrob Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 This thread should be titled Cry babies use funeral for own political purposes Agreed. Republicans who get their panties in a bunch to try and indict the left. I am glad we see eye to eye on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCRunner Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 This thread should be titled Cry babies use funeral for own political purposes The title should be If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. Oh, I am just full of these cliches. Maybe we should have a cliche slapdown. Bring it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdowwe Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 The title should be If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.Oh, I am just full of these cliches. Maybe we should have a cliche slapdown. Bring it. What Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticVillain Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 all i can say is :doh: :doh: Becasue there is a place and a time to roast Bush and at a funeral is not one of the times. Even though thaey made good points that is not the way to act at a funeral. A funeral is the celebration of a life, not to comment on somebody else's :doh: :doh: :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCRunner Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 all i can say is :doh: :doh: Becasue there is a place and a time to roast Bush and at a funeral is not one of the times. Even though thaey made good points that is not the way to act at a funeral. A funeral is the celebration of a life, not to comment on somebody else's :doh: :doh: :doh: I'm not sure I get what you are saying. They didn't roast Bush. If he got roasted then it's only because the same abuses the government was guilty of against Dr. and Mrs. King are still going on today. How could these things not be mentioned? These were a big part of the battles and abuses Mrs. King had to endure. They wanted to destroy her marriage and her husband for no other reason than political. And they tried to use information obtained by wiretaps to do it. Her triumph over these abuses is exactly what needed to be celebrated. That was the beauty of her life. Would you have preferred they just talk about her beauty and her nice singing voice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCRunner Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Shouldn't we combine these threads? It's the same discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 I am disgusted by some of the comments in this thread by those supporting using Mrs. King's funural as a political football. I don't give a crap what your ideology is, what your political leanings are, or even if you have outright hatred for the President. You all prove the insufferable jack-holes that you are. You really think that any rational American feels as you do? Grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjTj Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Time Out from the partisan jousting ... everybody take a deep breath and laugh at this photo: "Laura, do you think he realizes I'm sitting right behind him?" "Don't bother me, George, I'm giving him the death glare." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdowwe Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 I'm not sure I get what you are saying. They didn't roast Bush. If he got roasted then it's only because the same abuses the government was guilty of against Dr. and Mrs. King are still going on today. How could these things not be mentioned? These were a big part of the battles and abuses Mrs. King had to endure. They wanted to destroy her marriage and her husband for no other reason than political. And they tried to use information obtained by wiretaps to do it. Her triumph over these abuses is exactly what needed to be celebrated. That was the beauty of her life. Would you have preferred they just talk about her beauty and her nice singing voice? Wiretaps because the man was seen at Communist meetings...there was alot of that going on then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinSkins Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Yes, one could touch on certain things political without the specific references. However, it was under a Democratic President that MLK was tapped (Malcolm X too) and to directly refer to one of the guests is lacking in taste (at best.) BTW, that little poem thing was totally lame and evidence of the lack of even elementary understanding of real world moral and social issues (and evinces a socialist-pacifist belief.) You are way off base on this one. The funeral was for Mrs. King, a noted opponent of the current administration's policies and the sensitivities of anyone in the audience is quite irrelevant. Seems Mr. Bush and his surrogates can say most anything (aka in South Carolina where they called registered voters to say John and Cindy McCain had "black babies") but the rest of the world needs to be deferential to W's sensitivities. The fact that Dr, King and Malcolm X were assassinated during democratic administration doesn't seem relevant at all since the Democratic President at the time was robustly criticized for his decisions by Dr. and Mrs. King and others. When you make policy decisions you need to be strong enough to live with the consequences...all this chest thumping about appropriateness is a load of whiny drivel. If you don't agree with the messge, then say so, but who the heck are any of us to judge the King family's decisions for their Mother's funeral and eulogies. If you don't like their decision...tough ****...she was their Mother, it's their family and they get to cast the deciding vote! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinSkins Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Wiretaps because the man was seen at Communist meetings...there was alot of that going on then. Don't know where you read that there were a lot of "Communist meetings" going on, but that's total bull manure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCRunner Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 For people who live political lives - and I'm not talking Republican or Democratic - I'm talking political issues like civil rights, civil liberties, fighting for peace and for equality in health care, and jobs and injustice and everything else racism and poverty denies some people - the issues of their lives, these issues, are what made them who they are. It is what their whole lives were about. It is why the President and former presidents were there in the first place. How can anyone think that it is wrong to honestly examine and discuss the political battles the Kings fought, risked their lives for and died for. Dr. King was murdered because of politics and you want to say people are jackholes because they dare to speak the hard truth of their lives. It doesn't do any good to grow up if you grow up with your eyes closed to the reality around you. If you grow up afraid to speak out on important issues cause you think it's not politically correct or polite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdowwe Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Don't know where you read that there were a lot of "Communist meetings" going on, but that's total bull manure. Pic from a meeting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartskins Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143900 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Judges Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20060202/cm_thenation/1555886 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 For people who live political lives - and I'm not talking Republican or Democratic - I'm talking political issues like civil rights, civil liberties, fighting for peace and for equality in health care, and jobs and injustice and everything else racism and poverty denies some people - the issues of their lives, these issues, are what made them who they are. It is what their whole lives were about. It is why the President and former presidents were there in the first place. How can anyone think that it is wrong to honestly examine and discuss the political battles the Kings fought, risked their lives for and died for. Dr. King was murdered because of politics and you want to say people are jackholes because they dare to speak the hard truth of their lives.It doesn't do any good to grow up if you grow up with your eyes closed to the reality around you. If you grow up afraid to speak out on important issues cause you think it's not politically correct or polite. The only "reality" that I'm concerned with in this thread is the "reality" of taking politics too far. There is no rationale to use a funeral of any given person, regardless of their beliefs, for grandstanding your latest talking points that have been spewed ad nausium. I have no political opinion related to this travesty at all. But I certainly have a very poor opinion of anyone that could even think about doing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanCollins Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 I thought Bill Clinton gave a good speech...and listening to him, I have to wonder why he is not in the Democratic Party head instead of Howard Dean. a little matter involving a blue dress. as for the comments made, very poor taste, all of that has been said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted February 8, 2006 Author Share Posted February 8, 2006 I'm talking political issues like civil rights, civil liberties, fighting for peace and for equality in health care, and jobs and injustice and everything else racism and poverty denies some people I would tend to agree with you on civil liberties and the vague idea of 'injustice,' but not entirely in the sense you would advance, I'd wager. The rest is leftist/socialist boilerplate. If you were attempting to step beyond the stereotypical Republican/Democrat paradigm, you did a lousy job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinSkins Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Pic from a meeting Absolute and complete and utter NONSENSE! The SCLC was never a "Communist front" organization. In what redneck newspaper did you find this pic and cutline featured? I grew up in Virgina in the 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s and saw a lot of this crap peddled as real news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCRunner Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 I think some people are getting their education from the John Birch Society. The Highlander School was a training institution for labor leaders. I realize that there are still some people who believe that all labor is communist but they are the same people who probably believe that flouride in the water is a communist plot. The Highlander school was NOT a communist organization. It was shut down in the good old south because it violated the laws of ... wait for it...segregation. It still exists today. This picture and its lying implications was debunked so long ago. I cannot believe that someone is still using this to discredit Dr. King. Listen just because there were people who were communists who supported civil rights or even unions does not make the civil rights movement or unions communist. If a communist roots for the Redskins it doesn't make the Redskins a communist organization. Wait, Red, Redskins. Maybe it is a communist organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinSkins Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 If a communist roots for the Redskins it doesn't make the Redskins a communist organization. Wait, Red, Redskins. Maybe it is a communist organization. Yeah...better wiretap all the extremeskins members right away cuz they're part of a vast communist conspiracy :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Much like the funeral, this thread has went way off topic............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinSkins Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 The only "reality" that I'm concerned with in this thread is the "reality" of taking politics too far. There is no rationale to use a funeral of any given person, regardless of their beliefs, for grandstanding your latest talking points that have been spewed ad nausium. I have no political opinion related to this travesty at all. But I certainly have a very poor opinion of anyone that could even think about doing this. Were you angry with Ron Reagan for his comments regarding stem cell research during his father's service? If so, you had no business judging him and his family's choices for his Dad's funeral either. We don't own these public figures just because we get to vote for them. Our families and friends get to speak for us at our funerals and memorial services and their families and friends get to speak at theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 I know, it's old, but it still seems to fit: Shocking! A professional politician, at the funeral of the second most famous political activist (in our country) of the last century, mentioned politics. Yeah, there are such things as inappropriate places or behaviours. Wearing a duct-taped t-shirt to the State ot the Union speach is one good example. OTOH, to use an example that a bit less fresh, the GOP arrainging the seating for the SOTU so that no matter which camera angle the networks chose, it would look, on TV, like Bush was getting support from the entire Congress, well gee, that's just politics, right? (Oops, I forgot. No politics at the SOTU. It was done for security, right?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCRunner Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 a little matter involving a blue dress.as for the comments made, very poor taste, all of that has been said When are some people going to wake up to the fact that this country LOVES Bill Clinton. So does most of the world. They don't care one bit about his sex life especially not in the privacy of his office. They love him cause he's very smart and has a kind heart. He'd actually make a great head of the party. I never even thought of that before. Great suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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