Oldskool Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Patten should fight it out for the #3 WR slot next year. He was no #2 last year. Like I said before there was a reason wy Billichick let him walk. Just for those who are still in love with Patten, here are the metrics of his 2005 performance and his career as well. week 1 3 rec 19 yards versus Chicago week 2 1 rec 12 yards versus Dallas bye week week 4 3 rec 15 yards versus sea (OT even) week 5 7 rec 63 yards versus Den week 6 2 rec 22 yards versus KC week 7 2 rec 56 yards versus SF Week 8 1 rec 6 yards versus NYG week 9 0 rec 0 yards versus Phi Week 10 3 rec 24 yards versus TB Thats a whopping 22 rec for 217 yards and 0 TDs 9.9 YPAC and 2.45 receptions per game but then again looking at his history http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playe...s?playerId=1393 he averages only 2.1 receptions per game and 14.5 yards per reception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jivelikenice Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 I like Pattne but as a #3....He did some damage in New England working the slot and we'd be well served to get him back in that situation. He is a poor #2 but a solid #3.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooka Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 He kinda got under everyone's skin when he was complaining about not getting the ball at a time when he wasn't playing very well, but he had a point. The guy gets good seperation but Mark rarely looked his way. We just signed him to a 5yr deal so he isn't going anywhere. I'm wondering how much his knee was a factor earlier in the season. I did read some reports that said he was healthy enough to play in the playoffs for us, but we put him on the IR. So, he'll be good to go when training camp comes around. Ideally we should get a #2 and move David to the slot, but it wouldn't surprise me if we just add some depth and have David stay at the #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 I don't care if Patten is a #2 or a #3, just as long as we have another decent WR to play along side him and Moss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLusby Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 ....but soon learned that David Patten provided a viable target to take pressure off of Moss that Jacobs, Farris, and Thrash just couldn't replicate. Bingo! We will see Patten in the slot as the #3 WR. He will be productive in that position with his speed and quickness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinny Winny Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 A healthy Patten is one of the reason's why bringing in David Givens will be good. Having Givens line up as the #2 and Patten #3 will be just like the good ol' days for them in New England. Patten can be effective as the #3 like he was in New England, with Moss (*cough a better version of Branch cough*) and Givens taking 1 and 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCMONEY Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Moss is always a threat, and he will be utilized correctly. But I do believe a lot of his yardage was due to the fact that he was almost the only one receiving any throws. With Saunders, Moss will still be a great 1,000+ yard receiver, but I think his production will be slightly lower due to the fact Saunders likes to spread the ball around. Him being the only WR can be looked at 2 ways. Everyone knew he was the only WR yet he still got off. Just because you're the best WR on a team doesn't mean a team can necessarily stop him with motion and movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryceb07 Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Didn't like him in the beginning either, but he will be good. And def around for next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atloldskin Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Patten will be our #3. He will be better in the slot position as he had a harder time getting off the line. Look for Givens, Lloyd, Moulds and/or Andre Davis to provide depth and emerge as a #2 WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty Gut Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 I'd like to see Patten as our #3/slot WR, similar to his role in NE I wouldn't say he was really drawing that much coverage early in the season it was just more that teams didn't know about the powerfulness of Moss yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 I hope Dave Patten stays. He had some fairly productive stats with the Pats and we haven't really seen what he can do when given the opportunity. I think he would have been invaluable towards the later half of the season when teams learned to cover Santana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMan978 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Lets just cut David Patten, he's a waste of money. If we can trade Ramsey and get a second or thrid pick we can use that to pick a WR. Cause r second round should be a Tight End hopefully Domquine Byrd from USC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty Gut Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Lets just cut David Patten, he's a waste of money. If we can trade Ramsey and get a second or thrid pick we can use that to pick a WR. Cause r second round should be a Tight End hopefully Domquine Byrd from USC. didn't he get a $7 million dollar signing bonus, and you want to cut him after 6 games? he's been paid, let's see what he can do for the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinsfan17 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Well we weren't able to see him help out the team too much this year due to injury but when he was playing, he did help take the pressure off of Moss. I would like to give him just one more chance in preseason to see how he does. I think he has the potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Happy Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 A healthy Patten is one of the reason's why bringing in David Givens will be good. Having Givens line up as the #2 and Patten #3 will be just like the good ol' days for them in New England. Patten can be effective as the #3 like he was in New England, with Moss (*cough a better version of Branch cough*) and Givens taking 1 and 2. By that same logic, we could bring in Samie Parker and Dante Hall to reproduce the Chiefs offense or Joe Jurevicius and Bobby Engram to reproduce the Seahawks offense. It doesn't work that way. The Patriots also have Tom Brady, the 5 layers of Visa security, continuity, etc. David Patten was injured for most of 2003. Otherwise, his production for the Patriots wasn't much different than that of David Givens. What makes you think that David Givens would be such an outstanding 2nd WR for us, when David Patten only fit as a 3rd WR? His amazing athleticism? His track star speed? His towering height? If David Givens was on any other team, we woldn't give him the time of day. What we need is another WR that can draw a double team and stretch the field. That is not David Givens. If we can't find a young guy for that role, then we need to go after Jimmy Smith, Isaac Bruce, or maybe Eric Moulds until we do. Then David Patten would make a nice 3rd WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doodie987 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 who's martin nance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skindogger47 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Al Saunders will make David Patten look like Eddie Kennison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gortiz Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 True, but you do have to realize he had one of the greatest TE's of all time to work with. Statistically speaking, Cooely is not Gonzo ... but our boy is off to a great start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 A lot of talk on here about Patten being our #3 guy. Problem is, until someone comes in and actually wins the #2 job, that's where Patten will be penciled in. Why? Because he has a year of experience in the system, and I don't expect it to change that much. Unless the Skins go overboad for signing a WR, I expect that whoever they bring in will have to win the job, and not just simply handed the job. I also expect that if we draft someone, he will probably be sitting behind Patten and Thrash on the depth chart. There is also the question of how Saunders will have an effect on him. Patten had pretty decent stats for the first half, but pretty much disappeared in the second half. Why? Because I think Brunell would lean more and more on Moss as the game went on, and only threw to Patten when it was designed to go to him. That, I expect will change under Saunders, who seems to like to spread the ball around. Certainly, we do need to upgrade our WR corps, since there isn't much beyond Thrash, but I wouldn't rule out Patten as the #2 receiver just yet. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hailtotheredskins89826 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 dp is a good player let him be for this year good #3 or #2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUviaDC101 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 I see patten being surpassed by a low round draft pick that is a little bit hungrier... Patten has an ego problem he needs to check at the door... Gibbs aint going for that ****. Gibbs For Life!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drex Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Hopefully, Patten will be the #3 WR with Moss and our newly attained #2 WR forming a potent passing attack. One can dream, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saeth29 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Santana Moss is a great receiver, and will help this team a lot through the years, but I do not expect Moss to break 1,400 yards again under Saunders. Unless Saunders has schemes to get him the ball in the open field. You never know what yardage Moss will pull off when he has the ball and room to move! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gortiz Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Joe has made a habit of crossing us up the last couple of years, First of all, he came back! We thought that he would have leaned towards Winslow then he opted for Taylor, of course the Portis trade, then just recently the Saunders hire, one of the biggest curveballs for me coming from Joe Jackson was his willingness to stand by Brunell who, all of you can agree, hurt or not hurt, had a horrible 2004. I was thinking, Joe brought in Brunell, he believed in him to be the starting QB, and he stood by him, through thick and thin even after he had the worst QB rating in the NFL. He never gave up on him. Who is to say he does the same with David Patten and completely forgoes the idea of getting a #2 receiver. I know, it sounds crazy, but it is not like we didn't have a player at the position, we did, he just got hurt. Joe wanted this guy, Joe went out and got this guy, and we all know, that Joe sticks by his guys. The more I think about it, the more it seems plausible to me. We have alot of other issues that might be brewing, Ryan Clark could leave, Taylor could do time, Springs is getting old, we could upgrade at Tight End, we need a DE, and punter. Its just a matter of time before Joe crosses up again, maybe it will be by sticking with Patten??? thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan51 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Cooley is no where near Gonzalez's level yet, but you have to admit, at least the POTENTIAL is there, and he's on the right track so far. True, but the numbers show that Cooley is actually ahead of Gonzo at the two year point of his career. That is very eye-opening! What makes Gonzo so good? Is it the lack of talent at WR on his team, his speed, what? I think Cooley has all the tools to be just as good...maybe better...than Gonzo. Not as fast, but perhaps even better hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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