Fatty P For The Pulitzer Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 My question is--do you think Mike Carey got in trouble from the league for not throwing the flag on Pittman? I've never heard of a ref allowing retaliation even if the player was instigated....that's ridiculous It sets a bad precedent, imo. So now will every player who gets dissed or cheap shot feel like they can get away with retaliating since Pittman did? I could understand if ST physically attacked him, but that isn't the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenaa Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Come on Bubba. It is more than obvious he was spitting at Pitman and it got deflected by the face mask. Whether he hit Pittman or not is irrelevant, he should have been ejected. It was a classes act that he hopefully grows out of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashburnskinsfan Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Come on Bubba. It is more than obvious he was spitting at Pitman and it got deflected by the face mask. Whether he hit Pittman or not is irrelevant, he should have been ejected. It was a classes act that he hopefully grows out of. Agreed. It was a classless act and ST deserved to be ejected. But Pitmman's reaction (delayed and no wipe) shows that he wasn't hit, and so his behavior was deserving of ejection also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins4eva Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 It sets a bad precedent, imo. So now will every player who gets dissed or cheap shot feel like they can get away with retaliating since Pittman did? I could understand if ST physically attacked him, but that isn't the case. Right--it's an impossible standard--and I don't think that Carey had the discretion not to throw the flag on Pittman--that's why you hear the other ref ask carey twice: "are you sure, no flag on pittman?" I wouldn't be shocked if we don't see Carey's crew in the playoffs again this year. That was a big, big mistake on his part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DixieFlatline Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Whether or not the spit hit Pittman isn't the point. Assuming you are correct, this is the SECOND time he's been "accused" of it. He plays at a high level, and he's a damn good player. I'm hoping with age he matures ON THE FIELD. Since when does accusations make you guilty? Spitting on a player is wrong and should be punished, but you can't hold accusations against someone if that's all they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Come on Bubba. It is more than obvious he was spitting at Pitman and it got deflected by the face mask. Whether he hit Pittman or not is irrelevant, he should have been ejected. It was a classes act that he hopefully grows out of. that close he'd hit him you have TO MAKE contact to be flagged and ejected, calling someone horribe is classless... but not a penalty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camyj15 Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 If you measure the trajectory of the spit from mouth to facemask and the distance between the two players, the aim of the spit is a little off target to hit Pittman in the face. But then there are the spit flecks that could have broken off from the bigger spit and hit Pittman. Then again, maybe there was a second spit, or maybe even a third. I didn't know we were jockeying for the next Oliver Stone script. He spit, he got ejected, he was fined. Hopefully he's learned his lesson about spitting and keeping his cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyRules Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Here is a link with both the video and audio together. http://media.putfile.com/Taylor-edit29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21dave Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Courtesy of deadspin http://media.putfile.com/Taylor-edit29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vixz44 Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 damn, that shows it CLEARLY but i think pittman is still a $&%&^. Taylor didnt "spit in his face" like mike carey kept mentioning. it didnt even come close to his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte51Coleman Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Okay, I'm convinced. Not cool at all. I am a huge Taylor fan but that is not acceptable behavior. It's just not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budski Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 How come Cowher never gets fined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubster Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 I guess that was a good call then. That is the first video that I have seen where you can see the spit. Good job. :eaglesuck :gaintsuck :dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endzone_dave Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 It looks like the ref was looking right at it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins11 Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Why couldn't we see it on TV with the angle they gave? I find it hard to reconcile that we can see that much spit from this angle and no spit at all in the camera angle that we saw on TV. Something's wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyRules Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Guess you missed it in your search; already posted here:http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2087782#post2087782 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21dave Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Guess you missed it in your search; already posted here:http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2087782#post2087782 My fault. Did a search for Deadspin since it was on their website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimpy007 Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Why couldn't we see it on TV with the angle they gave? I find it hard to reconcile that we can see that much spit from this angle and no spit at all in the camera angle that we saw on TV. Something's wrong. The spit was superimposed, just like the King in those BK commercials. Special effects are amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostic Hog Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Looks to me like Taylor spit on him. Carey made the right call. Let's get past this, Taylor paid his retribution (ejection, fine) and is now out for some Seahawks heads. GO ST !! HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MthdMn13 Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Great Video. Taylor needs to work on his aim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsbadd Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 :laugh: look at the pics, it's not even close to Pittman face, if fact Pittman LOOKS DOWN at it....you don't look down if spat on in the facealso notice Pittman doesn't react, not for a couple seconds... 10/10 people will react immediately if spat on in the face.... to wipe it off at least you, like the ref, assume Taylor spit in his face, when evidence shows otherwise. Back up the video a few frames it looks like it hit to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCBnG21 Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 I don't care if he did spit on him or not...he served his penalty and fine. Still, without contact on the other player, I don't see how you eject him. That's crap... Especially considering that it dribbled off his own helmet. He jerked his head, for all we know, he was jerking his head to the side to spit off to the side of him, and continue screaming... Throwing someone out for your interpretation of what would have happened is crap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inevitable Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 The trajectory of the spit, in my opinion, looks like he was trying for Pittman. Seems it hit his facemask and fell downward. Say what you will, but to me it seems like he had the intention of spitting on him, and it just didn't happen that way. Kinda like driving 40 over the speed limit or whatever is "Driving with the intent to kill"; spitting that way is "spitting with the intent to hit somebody" As much as I supported ST over the past few days, its disheartening to see this not becuase I care he spit on someone, but because he told his coaches he didn't do it. LITERALLY he didn't. I don't htink anything hit Pittman, but it seems to me he wanted to. But, I agree that Mike Carey is f'n stupid for ignoring a RULE by not ejecting Pittman for punching him. It's just as bad as if Pittman had been ejected, and not Taylor. Rules are in place for a reason. THEY ARE RULES. There is no clause to the punching rule that says, if spat upon, this rule no longer applies. What I want to know is, if punching isn't flagged, what else is acceptable after being spat on? Kicking hte guy in the groin? Sucker punching him in the kidney? I mean honestly, it could get out of hand real fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceekay84 Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 i hope ST never becomes like TO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidFan Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Bubba, I don't see Pittman following the spit to the ground?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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